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hatelull posted:What's the ratio of cam to cam versus the one way street? Do you get a lot of requests for that, or is that not even a thing with your portal/site? well only one person can send their cam at a time but I'd say it's about 50/50. I rarely watch unless they're doing something cool like the pencil dude. Tbh, most dicks look alike and it's rare that I'm like "Oh I want to watch you sooo bad". The size of the cam thing is about 1"x1" so it's not like I can really see anything anyway.
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luscious posted:This line of work has really made me a lot more secure in how I look Seems to be common, lot of girls I've talked to have said the same thing. For every one rear end in a top hat saying something mean you have ten fawning over every part of you. If you're making $$$ you must be doing something right. luscious posted:They also ask you to stand, twirl, and do various other things to show off whatever they want to see for free. I don't really get why they get so pissed that we won't do these requests for free. Can you imagine being a camgirl and standing / twirl / show feet every time that someone asked? Knowing that they're going to leave the second that you fulfill their request? I normally just ban people who come in with a request / who won't pay / gets pissy when I ask for $$ in exchange for a request. Paying customers don't ask for things for free - or they pay up if they realize that they are doing that. I do this, sorry :P I'm a butt guy and also like lingerie so I like to see what a girl is wearing. I don't get pissed or anything though, if a girl doesn't want to do it that's fair ball.
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Marf Revus posted:I do this, sorry :P I'm a butt guy and also like lingerie so I like to see what a girl is wearing. I don't get pissed or anything though, if a girl doesn't want to do it that's fair ball. I guess... just tip. I had a guy tell me I was fat again today and that I was wearing too much makeup. He wasn't trying to be mean and didn't think I was ugly... just felt the need to tell me that I was fat and wearing too much makeup. Thanks *ban*
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Nov 14, 2013 03:04
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Should also mention I actually chat with her first :P
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Marf Revus posted:Should also mention I actually chat with her first :P And cuddle later? 
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limaCAT posted:And cuddle later? I mean in some ways the guys who come into my room and start chatting with me and then bust out the freeloader bullshit are the worst because it's like they're trying to get one by me by making some kind of effort to not be "that guy" who will just go in and demand something for free. At the end of the day, you're still trying to get something for free. I kind of see it as is there a difference between going into a restaurant, sitting down and saying "I'm not going to get anything to eat but can you bring me some water and bread and butter" or going in and making a point of looking through the menu, getting the bread and butter and then leaving without ordering. It's KINDA the same thing but just more tricky. You want to see something that you like because you get off on it and you know that you aren't going to pay but you're asking for it anyway. Yeah, you might not get pissed off if you don't get it and yeah, you are talking to her first but... you're still trying to get something for free while someone is working. Someone who is used to being asked for free poo poo every day, who only gets a % of what they earn for the site that they are on, and someone who is NOT getting paid to chat with you before, during, and after, your freeloading. IMO, the guys who "chat first" are more annoying because I feel that they are tricking me and trying to get one past me. Just loving pay for what you want to see or go away forever. I have some thought that MR is on my 'block list' 
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Ouch :P I would tip, should have been more clear. Didn't like just diving into a private, personality is important to me *shrug* That was the point of using the sites for me, it wasn't just a video of a girl getting off. Anyways, I'll stop digging this hole now. And don't worry, not active on them anymore. limaCAT posted:And cuddle later? That's the best part! I would stick around in private for a minute or two, shoot the poo poo, say thanks etc. Ok I'll stop. Marf Revus fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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This has been a really fun and interesting read, thanks for the awesome thread. Some time ago I started taking photography classes and got to talking with a friend of mine from highschool. It turns out that he does a lot of work selling clips and such, but in a bit of a different manner than you've described here, and we've had an awesome deal worked out where I get to shoot his models on his paid time if I take photos for his gigs. In general, we've had a ton of fun and most of his models have been pretty fun to work with. Basically, what he does is mostly foot fetish style things, but also some murder/dead play as well. He advertises for "shoe models" on places like Craigslists, and when they contact him he sort of hints at what's actually going on (shoeplay, mostly just fiddling with shoes, bapping them on the ground, kicking at rocks or whatever and scuffing them and such). I think most girls are scared off at this point, but the few that decide to go with it usually end up doing more than just shoeplay. He'll do a clip with them introducing themselves and saying something like, "Hi I'm -name- and I've got these awesome sneakers I'd like to sell, if you want to see more just let me know!", then people write in wanting to buy the shoes as well as buy private shoots with the girls with certain shoes which they'll then have sent to them. I think he also does a lot of business on Clips4Sale or some such. From the outside, it all seems a bit bizarre, especially as someone that's not really into any really wacky fetishes. As the photographer, I've had to tickle girls feet on camera and that was kind of awkward and creepy and we were both laughing more out of the sheer wtfery of the whole thing than anything. I don't know if it's worth mentioning, but I'd be glad to share some of the photos from our mock murder/dead girl shoots if anyone was interested in seeing just what kind of stuff people are paying for. In this case, they're technically all work safe, except for.. you know, the 'dead' part. 
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hatelull posted:Does the abysmal use of the English language from the people that pop into your room bother you, or is it just noise until the DING for a private session pops up? Do you use the short hand too? I very rarely type... I just talk. I don't often use shorthand to type because I never got into using it. It is only very recently that I have even been using w/e or bc or anything else. I have noticed that since I started stripping / reading less my grammar has suffered as well as my vocabulary (not as much as grammar) but yeah. That drat Satyr posted:This has been a really fun and interesting read, thanks for the awesome thread. I hope that he's compensating them for their time / effort / that they know what's going on. It kinda sounds like he's taking some weird advantage though I might be wrong.
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luscious posted:I hope that he's compensating them for their time / effort / that they know what's going on. It kinda sounds like he's taking some weird advantage though I might be wrong. Oh no, they know completely. Basically my friend just kind of works as a middleman once he gets them going with clients that want private shoots with them, or shoes or whatever. It's kind of weird, but I guess it works for the guys that like it. I guess if, when I was in college, I had someone say to me "Hey make a 5 minute video of you crushing gummy worms and then someone will pay you $70 for your old sneakers that you're going to throw out, plus extra per shoot you do." I'd have probably done it too. Anyway, I don't really have any 'good' stories other than stuff about falling in the mud with loads of gear while trying to take pictures of a girl in a trash bag. I almost lost $3k in camera gear on this shoot to mud: (somewhat  due to depicting 'dead' girls) trashbag, leaves. But, anyway. Lately I've also been doing some studio work for a different friend from highschool who's a dancer, and she's seen some of this stuff and has friends that do crazy complected bdsm knot tying stuff and they're all interested in having shoots done for their portfolios. As a photographer it seems that this is sort of an un-tapped markert, as most of the dancers/escort photos you see online are kind of either home-made type things, webcam shots or whatever. To tie back to your original thread, luscious, have you ever considered having anything "professional" made for your portfolio? In your opinion, does having nicer pictures get you more business - both online and, say, in clubs where they put stuff up on the walls to show off the ladies?
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What's your opinion on older strippers (like 30+)? What age do you think you will stop stripping? What did the ugliest stripper you've ever seen look like?
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Goobish posted:What's your opinion on older strippers (like 30+)? What age do you think you will stop stripping? What did the ugliest stripper you've ever seen look like? I've talked about this in the thread I think. I have pretty much stopped stripping at this point and am focusing on camming. And as far as older strippers (is 30+ really considered older?) I think that they're more desirable because they're the same age, or at least closer to, than the guys who have the money. A guy who has money and wants to spend it likely doesn't want to spend it on someone who is so far removed from him and his interests that he is reminded of his granddaughter. I don't really look at other strippers and think "wow she's so ugly" as much as I look at them and think "wow she makes a lot of money" or "wow she's on her game" or "wow she's off". The truth is that you don't have to be hot in this industry to make money and that's what I notice more than their looks. Ugliest stripper I have ever seen probably looks like just an ordinary ugly person as that's what we are...
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I have an SA fetish. mm bb possssst plz can you quote me?? u have archives bb?? quote me and ill vote 5 ok Ahem. On the subject of humiliation, etc. do you let guys insult you, attack you verbally if it's a prearranged thing (like, that's what they're into and they're paying)? Or is that over the line?
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Very Nice Eraser posted:I have an SA fetish. mm bb possssst plz can you quote me?? u have archives bb?? quote me and ill vote 5 ok Yeah if I was being paid for it I'm sure that I could do it and be okay with it. If I wasn't I would end the session and ban him / refuse to do it again. Like I said, at this point I'm pretty much impossible to upset by people who I don't like. respect or give authority over my feelings to. Does that make sense? I guess after working jobs where everyone has an idea of who they think that you are and an idea of what you're like you um. get over the idea that other peoples' opinions really matter SO much and just value the people who you care about that much more.
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So I thought that I would share something with you guys. I had a customer who started seeing me when I came back to camming (September?) and went from spending 100$ on me per day to spending 300$ on me per day. I know that altogether he has spent OVER 3k on me in the time that he has "known" me. Anyway. I normally don't talk about my love life (lack thereof) on cam but I did the other day and he caught wind of it and sent me these emails that were just really weirdly intense. I'm posting the second of the two because it's like. too good to not share. quote:First, I'd like to apologize for the angry email. I am angry, but I shouldn't have unleashed on you like that. I apologize. The only person I can blame is myself. In the end, I am the only one responsible for my feelings, thoughts, and emotions. so
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luscious posted:So I thought that I would share something with you guys.  How common is a reaction like that? Do you get a lot of people getting overly attached?
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luscious posted:And as far as older strippers (is 30+ really considered older?) I think that they're more desirable because they're the same age, or at least closer to, than the guys who have the money. A guy who has money and wants to spend it likely doesn't want to spend it on someone who is so far removed from him and his interests that he is reminded of his granddaughter. This is 100% correct. 30 is considered old now? Most men who have a considerable disposable income, and like to spend it at SC's do not want the youngest looking thing in the club (if they do they will be a total weirdo that moves from girl to girl complaining about women their own age), they want a girl they can talk to that is *similar* in age to them that they can actually hold a convo with.
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Nah this is pretty rare. He's pretty removed from reality, I think. I'm not torn up about it at all. It's 100$ less per day but it's also kinda better because he's really loving annoying and doing shows with him just makes me kinda angry even though all I do is sit and talk to him (and try really hard to not call him stupid and ignorant). It's kinda hard for me to imagine that this guy is in love with me. He knows nothing about me - not even my real name or anything other than what province I live in. I'm actually kind of mean to him as well. I really don't understand how the guy who wrote the letter could think that I was "the one" though. I think that's the most puzzling part to me. There is no part of my "sex worker persona" that leads on that I actually like the dudes that I work for and I don't lie about stuff to make myself more desirable. In this case, this letter is as much a part of the fantasy of being with me / not being able to be with me. Now that he has dramatically exited the situation I can go on with my life understanding why I will never hear from him again. oh wait. quote:Hey, you're on early tonight. I suppose you skipped your workout? so after that is when I sent a message back saying "I'm not married and I don't have a boyfriend. Don't come into my chatroom if you're not going to spend money" And blocked him from sending me messages because tbh the whole thing is so dramatical and stupid and annoying. He THEN sent this to my camgirl gmail account: quote:I wasn't trying to freeload. And I wasn't trying to be weird or create any stress or drama. I popped in because I wasn't sure the email went through. Weird poo poo was happening and somehow I spawned multiple IE windows. liiiiiiiike. 
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I would block this guy forever. Can you make it so that he can't even see if you're on? The thing with guys like this is that ANY interaction with them is built up to such ridiculous levels that it no longer bears any semblance to reality. You say "I don't care what you do" he thinks 'shes talking to me! I have a chance!' Dude will also totally blame you for any disappointment/anger he feels. I feel terrible for anyone he interacts with in real life.
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Tasty_Crayon posted:I can't blame you. I had a guy get all up in my personal space today and it bugged me for hours after. I don't even want to imagine how weirded out YOU must feel. Well it's different because it's a customer / provider relationship. When people are weird to me in my personal life it upsets me more than when I'm working (not at all). Like if someone came up to me in a bar and said the things that guys would say to me in the club I would be really horrified. At the club I was just like *eyeroll* "give me my money".
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luscious posted:Nah this is pretty rare. He's pretty removed from reality, I think. I'm not torn up about it at all. It's 100$ less per day but it's also kinda better because he's really loving annoying and doing shows with him just makes me kinda angry even though all I do is sit and talk to him (and try really hard to not call him stupid and ignorant). It's kinda hard for me to imagine that this guy is in love with me. He knows nothing about me - not even my real name or anything other than what province I live in. I'm actually kind of mean to him as well. He has a crush on you. It's not necessary to know your name or your personal details for someone to have a crush on you. Having a crush on someone is based on their appearance and voice and personality (or even less than that). I've had a crush on a character on a tv show before, as of course many people do. It's not the same as being in love with someone because there's no depth to it. Having a crush on someone is often the beginning to falling in love with them, though, when they're a real person and not a tv show character or whatever.
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Baron Bifford posted:Is there any truth to the cliché that strippers suffer from daddy issues? Do you notice that many of your colleagues come from broken homes? Can you please explain to me what you consider daddy issues to be? I don't think that the incidence of sex workers having experienced hardship growing up / in adulthood to be greater than any other group of women in a profession.
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luscious posted:I've talked about this in the thread I think. I have pretty much stopped stripping at this point and am focusing on camming. And as far as older strippers (is 30+ really considered older?) I think that they're more desirable because they're the same age, or at least closer to, than the guys who have the money. A guy who has money and wants to spend it likely doesn't want to spend it on someone who is so far removed from him and his interests that he is reminded of his granddaughter. Yes I would say that 30+ is considered older in entertainment. I don't say that to be judgmental, it just seems to be a milestone in entertainment jobs, and real life for some. But I've noticed dancers have different feelings about dancing as they get older, so I was just curious what yours were. I often think about going back to dancing, but I just feel like age (and childbirth) has not been good to me. But goddamn it was definitely the funnest job I've ever had. I'm now way out of shape, but sometimes I fantasize about stripping again if I were to ever get back in shape and take care of a few other cosmetic things. I also suffer from pancake boobs. Mine are from pregnancy. And with the ugly stripper thing, I was just trying to get an interesting story out of you! I remember my very first strip club experience because of an ugly stripper. I was enjoying watching the lady on stage. At this club they would invite you to sit or lay down on stage, so that's what I did. I gave her a tip and she looked normal at first, but she gave me this huge goofy smile and literally half of her teeth were missing. But yeah, you definitely see all sorts of women at the club. And I love it that way.
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Goobish posted:Yes I would say that 30+ is considered older in entertainment. I don't say that to be judgmental, it just seems to be a milestone in entertainment jobs, and real life for some. But I've noticed dancers have different feelings about dancing as they get older, so I was just curious what yours were. I often think about going back to dancing, but I just feel like age (and childbirth) has not been good to me. But goddamn it was definitely the funnest job I've ever had. I'm now way out of shape, but sometimes I fantasize about stripping again if I were to ever get back in shape and take care of a few other cosmetic things. I also suffer from pancake boobs. Mine are from pregnancy. I really think it depends on how the person ages. I have seen some girls and thought that they were in their late 20s or even early 30s and found out that they were early 20s and that was surprising and terrifying at the same time. I don't think that I look 28 (nor do most of the people who meet me) so I think that myself, and others who look younger than they are, can work in this industry for way longer. I think also that mid 20s onwards is kinda dancing prime because by then you're more worldly and able to establish and enforce boundaries more / save / work smarter. Most of the younger girls that I meet definitely don't have their poo poo sorted out and don't do nearly as well as the ones who know what they're doing. I also think that the guys who want a younger girl are kinda creepy and try to stay away from them because imo, they're looking for someone to take advantage of. If you're worried about your looks but want to go back to the industry I would consider camming. It is definitely more forgiving and there are fetishes for everything. I would check out some camsites and see how girls with similar body types to yours do. It's also more reliable (in my experience) and less demanding in every way (psychologically, emotionally, and physically). BBW is a huge fetish as is MILF. quote:And with the ugly stripper thing, I was just trying to get an interesting story out of you! I remember my very first strip club experience because of an ugly stripper. I was enjoying watching the lady on stage. At this club they would invite you to sit or lay down on stage, so that's what I did. I gave her a tip and she looked normal at first, but she gave me this huge goofy smile and literally half of her teeth were missing. I've seen so many strippers at this point that I don't even really know what I would consider to be best or worst. Teeth are a huge thing for me (due to 5 years in braces and implications of bad teeth though I do think that it's a slightly classist thing and need to get over that opinion) as is nice hair, tattoos (let them be nice) and things like makeup. I've seen girls ruin how they look with lovely makeup or look horrible due to out of date hairstyles / not doing anything with their hair. The girls that I like looking at least are ones who look rough like they've been dealing with years of drug use and are incapable of putting themselves together in a way that looks attractive by today's standards. I think that the worst that I have seen on cam is this girl who posts on the stripper / camgirl webforum who actually looks like a cabbage patch doll. She's a BBW but can't seem to figure out how to do anything that doesn't make her look like she just had major dental surgery that has her whole face frozen. There are very few people who I consider "unsuitable" for this industry but I actually jokingly sent a picture of her and a picture of a cabbage patch doll to a friend of mine and we broke down laughing at how they look really similar. We are horrible people. quote:But yeah, you definitely see all sorts of women at the club. And I love it that way. Yeah. I like camming more for this too because at the club there's a huge divide and it's kinda more judgy about who does well and who looks good. I love going on cam and seeing girls who are successful but are obviously lacking in some department. I also love seeing categories like "granny" and seeing those women doing well. BBW and granny are things that you would never see at a stripclub so that's good to me to see.
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Cingulate posted:I don't think this has been asked before ... have you ever had female customers? In the club yes for sure. On cam I'm not certain but I doubt it (at least for 1 on 1 shows... group shows with a small buy in I'm sure that women have watched me if not just other camgirls looking to see what others do). I actually am fairly certain that the subject of female customers has come up in this thread at length.
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I think I noticed you mention you work in Canada. Do clubs work the same way there as they do in the US? I remember having to pay the club all sorts of crazy fees. There was the house fee, DJ tip, locker room fee, dance fees, and I'm probably forgetting something. But god it was like 60$ just to work. I think a lot of people don't realize we're not getting paid by the clubs. Another fun question is the funniest thing you remember from the dressing room. I remember one time I was minding my own business, but couldn't help but notice there was a girl bending over looking at her butt in the mirror. She turns to me, bends over, spreads her cheeks, and asked me if her butthole looked ok.
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luscious posted:I actually am fairly certain that the subject of female customers has come up in this thread at length.
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Goobish posted:I think I noticed you mention you work in Canada. Do clubs work the same way there as they do in the US? I remember having to pay the club all sorts of crazy fees. There was the house fee, DJ tip, locker room fee, dance fees, and I'm probably forgetting something. But god it was like 60$ just to work. I think a lot of people don't realize we're not getting paid by the clubs. Yeah I've talked a lot in this thread and in the DJ thread about the way that clubs work in Canada vs in the US. It's really different and worth reading through the find the posts about. I took a bunch of pictures of stuff around the club and in the change room that I found and thought was funny / creepy. Maybe I'll upload them later. I've seen the pussy inspect, the butthole inspect, the drug inspect... girls helping other girls put fake tan on and getting stuff everywhere. I've had my haircut in the dressing room a number of times hah.
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luscious posted:Yeah I've talked a lot in this thread and in the DJ thread about the way that clubs work in Canada vs in the US. It's really different and worth reading through the find the posts about. Yes post them! And I'm sorry that I've repeated questions. Laziness for the win.
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Goobish posted:Do clubs work the same way there as they do in the US? I remember having to pay the club all sorts of crazy fees. There was the house fee, DJ tip, locker room fee, dance fees, and I'm probably forgetting something. But god it was like 60$ just to work. I think a lot of people don't realize we're not getting paid by the clubs. House fees are the most ridiculous bullshit, we had to pay them at the club/brothel too. In our case, it was set fee on every booking we took on top of the cut the management already took* - other agencies charge a set fee for the night, which is great if you have a good night, but if it's slow you can end up paying to do nothing all night. *I realise that in practice this is no different than the house simply taking a bigger cut, but mentally it's still kind of a blow; also it meant that the house's cut could end up edging over 50% of a booking fee, not counting extras. JR ANTI SEX LEAGUE fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Nov 21, 2013 |
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