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marktheando posted:But in a show as long running as this with so many tv stories, novels, audios, comics, video games where the writers obviously don't (and have never) given a poo poo about the canonicity of anything don't you think it's a bit silly to even think about whether something is officially canon or not? Can't you just enjoy the stuff you like and ignore the stuff you don't like? Let me tell you a tale of terror, of a place known only as Wookieepedia...
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Metal Loaf posted:Let me tell you a tale of terror, of a place known only as Wookieepedia... Is that more terrifying than Memory Gamma, the Star Trek fanfiction wiki?
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Nov 15, 2013 22:59
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Gau posted:Canon has nothing to do with personally accepting things - there is an awful word "fanon" for that. Canon refers to the idea that a body of work with multiple authors can have multiple levels of authenticity, based on various factors (nearly always the medium of distribution, but not always). For example, the commonly accepted canon policy among fans right now is something like this: Agh no I understand please stop explaining canon to me. Metal Loaf posted:Let me tell you a tale of terror, of a place known only as Wookieepedia... I have heard tales of this place. It's really amazing how little I care about Star Wars now compared to 1999. I should really thank George Lucas.
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Nov 15, 2013 23:03
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Reading Wookieepiedia was great! I learned that the Emperor actually cloned himself a bunch of times and managed to corrupt Luke, thus making Vader's sacrifice in RotJ utterly pointless. Also reading that Chewbacca dies when he's crushed. By a moon. If there's one good thing about the new Star Wars films, it's that they can purge some of this poo poo.
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Nov 15, 2013 23:08
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Plucky Brit posted:Reading Wookieepiedia was great! I learned that the Emperor actually cloned himself a bunch of times and managed to corrupt Luke, thus making Vader's sacrifice in RotJ utterly pointless. Did you get to the bit where Han and Leia's son trains his dead brother's girlfriend as his Sith apprentice, and then she tries to seduce Luke Skywalker's fourteen-year old son?
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Nov 15, 2013 23:16
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As far as I'm concerned, there were only three Star Wars films and nothing else. As soon as I decided that, I felt a lot better thinking about that franchise. Consequently I will say that there was no appearance of the Master in Doctor Who after Last of the Time Lords, the series 4 finale never happened, there will be a Shakespeare episode soon because they haven't done one yet, and the Doctor will have as many regenerations as he likes so we'll see this series going on for a few more decades.
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Nov 15, 2013 23:33
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Plucky Brit posted:As far as I'm concerned, there were only three Star Wars films and nothing else. As soon as I decided that, I felt a lot better thinking about that franchise. Which three? As far as continuity / canon goes I like to think everything is canon if you want it to be but time is being constantly rewritten now that the Time Lords have gone and although the Doctor remembers everything a lot of it did not happen in the "current universe."
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Twisted Perspective posted:Which three? Return of the Jedi, Attack of the Clones, and the Holiday Special, obviously.
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Nov 15, 2013 23:46
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Why can't we just talk about how great it was to see Tennant in a fez?
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Nov 15, 2013 23:58
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Legs Benedict posted:Why can't we just talk about how great it was to see Tennant in a fez? And how easily he put it on. "Huh, a fez came through a portal. Better put it on, quick."
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Nov 16, 2013 00:10
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Now it's canon that Eleven is so obsessed with Fezes because he saw one as Ten and was like yes this rules. The one thing that truly imprinted on Eleven throughout regens.
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Nov 16, 2013 00:38
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marktheando posted:
The "I'll go with what I like and ignore what I don't like" is certainly a valid option, but some people (including myself) enjoy the idea if having a curated body of work that "counts" and is considered "official" by whoever is in charge of the whole thing. If you prefer more fast and loose continuity, go for it, it's a free universe. I'm just happy that Moffat, show runner of Doctor Who in 2013, decided that Molly, Charlie, Lucie, and the rest of the 8th Doctor's companions are now considered "official" in the ongoing narrative of the Doctor as shown on television.
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Yes I know? What makes you think I didn't understand this? That kind of sperging is exactly what I was complaining about.
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The_Doctor posted:And how easily he put it on. "Huh, a fez came through a portal. Better put it on, quick." Like Rose, it's a love affair that spans regenerations. 
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thexerox123 posted:Return of the Jedi, Attack of the Clones, and the Holiday Special, obviously. Holiday Special, Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure and Ewoks: The Battle for Endor
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Holiday Special owns. Haters.
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Throb Robinson posted:Holiday Special owns. Haters. For the record, the only one that I dislike out of the three that I listed is Attack of the Clones, haha. I just wanted it to be a weird list.
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Throb Robinson posted:Holiday Special owns. Haters. Does the holiday special have Wilfred Brimley at his surly best or Burl Ives narrating it?
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bobkatt013 posted:Does the holiday special have Wilfred Brimley at his surly best or Burl Ives narrating it? Nope, but it's got Art Carney giving vaguely pornographic holograms to Chewie's father, and Bea Arthur singing a song in the Mos Eisley cantina.
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The_Doctor posted:And how easily he put it on. "Huh, a fez came through a portal. Better put it on, quick."
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Nov 16, 2013 12:31
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Night of the Doctor has 1.6m views already. 
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Teek posted:Day of the Doctor clip from Children in Need: Since this one was removed; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn9Ss9rZMcU I had the stupidest grin on my face at the end of that.
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Hey guys what do you think the chances are of seeing the Master in the Special? And he'd most definitely have to be a brand new actor wouldn't he, because the Doctor never recognized Jacobi..
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Brigadier Sockface posted:Hey guys what do you think the chances are of seeing the Master in the Special? And he'd most definitely have to be a brand new actor wouldn't he, because the Doctor never recognized Jacobi.. 
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marktheando posted:In the Science of Doctor Who lecture thing the BBC did Charles Dance was in the audience! YES. Yes yes yes.
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Brigadier Sockface posted:Hey guys what do you think the chances are of seeing the Master in the Special? And he'd most definitely have to be a brand new actor wouldn't he, because the Doctor never recognized Jacobi.. I think it's more likely we'll see Davros.
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marktheando posted:In the Science of Doctor Who lecture thing the BBC did Charles Dance was in the audience! http://youtu.be/-3POYx6IeeI Wibbly wobbly kinky fuckery. I am very down with this.
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computer parts posted:I think it's more likely we'll see Davros. The old boy has been MIA for awhile now, and lord knows he's survived worse than a spaceship exploding around him.
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Ensign_Ricky posted:The old boy has been MIA for awhile now, and lord knows he's survived worse than a spaceship exploding around him. I rather like that other than Weeping Angels, Cybermen, and Daleks (And honestly, Daleks haven't been showing up a lot lately), revived-Who doesn't seem to want to recycle villains or monsters all too often.
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Ensign_Ricky posted:The old boy has been MIA for awhile now, and lord knows he's survived worse than a spaceship exploding around him. I don't really think he'll show up either, to be honest (it seems not-Bad Wolf will be an antagonist), just that The Master typically requires his own episode to be introduced and Davros at least was there during the correct time period and he hasn't shown up that much.
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The Last Day mini-sode is apparently an exclusive to the 50th DVD/BR, so it appears to be tied into that story. Current rumor-mongering is that it will feature a return appearance from Doctor Nine. The rumors, for as vague as they are, aren't clear whether it will be new footage or re-purposed though. Per the same source, there's some small chance it could be released online after the 50th though, I would think possibly because of how well over the McGann thing went. Even if it's not officially released, I'm sure it will be leaked online sometime around the day it comes out at the beginning of December. Could all be bunk, hopefully Chris will pop back up in some form though. I could see him showing up for an hour to film a Hurt regeneration with a simple "Fantastic!". That would be enough for me really. If it is a Hurt regen, seems like it would be a nice "post-credits" coda. Also makes me wish it and Night of the Doctor could somehow be worked into an official "Expanded edition" version of the 50th, and not something you have to go to separately. Night->50th->Credits->Last Day Teek fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Nov 18, 2013 |
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Night of the Doctor made me smile. I have been feeling Paul McGann had been getting screwed ever since Hurt had been showing up, but no, Moffat wanted to give the 8th Doctor a good and dignified end after nearly two decades of being a loose end. McGann seems down to do more Doctor Who; I think a few a few made for BCC movies similar to format they used for Planet of the Dead and Waters of Mars would be neat.
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So are we 100% sure there's going to be a Christmas special this season? I haven't heard a drat thing about it being filmed
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Yes. The Christmas Special is the last Matt Smith episode.
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Harlock posted:Yes. The Christmas Special is the last Matt Smith episode. derp yeah i posted before I went and looked it up and it turns out filming is complete. Nevermind, ignore me!
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Riptor posted:So are we 100% sure there's going to be a Christmas special this season? I haven't heard a drat thing about it being filmed Yes quote:Amid much hype and speculation, Peter Capaldi was unveiled as the next Doctor during a special live television event on BBC ONE tonight. Also quote:Filming for the episode began on 8 September 2013. On 10 September, Matt Smith and Jenna Coleman were seen filming on location in Cardiff.The location was Lydstep Flats, which have been previously used in Series 1 and 2 as the Powell Estate where Rose Tyler lived with her mother Jackie.On 19 September 2013 there were scenes being filmed in the evening at Puzzlewood with fake snow being scattered over certain areas. On 5 October 2013, Doctor Who producer Marcus Wilson revealed via Twitter that filming was complete.
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Teek posted:The Last Day mini-sode is apparently an exclusive to the 50th DVD/BR, so it appears to be tied into that story. Current rumor-mongering is that it will feature a return appearance from Doctor Nine. The rumors, for as vague as they are, aren't clear whether it will be new footage or re-purposed though. If I had to guess how this'll go, unless we're really lucky and they got Eccleston back for a quick cameo, what it's going to be is just the very beginning of the revival where Nine sees himself for the first time tacked on the end of the War Doctor regenerating. He'll die, or choose to regenerate, or whatever and then it'll cut to that scene. Especially since it's only supposed to be a couple minutes long, it seems like a quick monologue from Hurt, CGI-regen, and then old footage would be the most that would fit.
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It'd be pretty bitchin' if Capaldi was actually in the 50th and we saw the future doctor before Matt Smith actually regenerated into him. (But only for a short while. You can't really play doctors off each other when we haven't met one of them.)
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DirtyRobot posted:It'd be pretty bitchin' if Capaldi was actually in the 50th and we saw the future doctor before Matt Smith actually regenerated into him. (But only for a short while. You can't really play doctors off each other when we haven't met one of them.) I'm wondering if we might not get a shot of him, watching from the shadows. It would be cool but would take away from seeing up erupt from the regeneration though.
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DirtyRobot posted:It'd be pretty bitchin' if Capaldi was actually in the 50th and we saw the future doctor before Matt Smith actually regenerated into him. (But only for a short while. You can't really play doctors off each other when we haven't met one of them.) This is honestly something I'be been wanting to see since I got into Who, and I think it'd be great. Even if it was just a small background bit or a quick gag ("What!? I'm not supposed to be here yet!") I think it'd be fun. I mean, it's basically what's happening from Ten's point of view in the 50th with Eleven showing up early. Why not have Twelve also pop in the same on Eleven while we're actively following Eleven?
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On Nine in the 50th: http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/nov/18/steven-moffat-doctor-who-interview Sounds like the plan was for the War Doctor to always be a thing regardless of Eccelston, probably to ensure Moffat got to handle the 13 regenerations things. However Chris declined to take part in the full episode... but Moffat then does say: The Guardian posted:Moffat had met him for a "very amiable and gentlemanly" conversation and the actor considered it "quite seriously" before saying no. "It's just not the sort of thing he does," concludes Moffat. "The ninth Doctor turns up for the battle but not the party. Last bit being the most interesting. One could take that as, Chris declined to take part in the extended 50th shooting, but did do a short bit...
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