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Grey Hunter posted:Sorry for the slowness of this update, I had a save file corruption that cost me 5 years of gameplay. I had to replay. drat shame, that would have been entertaining. Still, puts you in a better position to introduce your Well-Snake to the virgin world.
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I would like for the new Mansa's name to be spelled "Bongo" at every opportunity henceforth.
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Nov 16, 2013 20:08
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fermun posted:Truly the Well Snake is a powerful god, turning back time itself when things went badly. We have chosen our faith well indeed  !
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Nov 16, 2013 20:33
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OwlFancier posted:I would like for the new Mansa's name to be spelled "Bongo" at every opportunity henceforth. Oh. Until your post, I thought that's how it was spelled.
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Nov 17, 2013 01:42
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Nice to see Aquitaine becoming dominant in the north, though the Qadirids have solidified as well. I find the Christians lose too often in Iberia, the constant north-south pressure will continue to attrit the Qadirids over the long term. The back and forth battle is also more entertaining than a straightforward victory. Anyway, there'll probably be some massive civil war before the end of CK2, at the rate we're expanding without tricking out our nation. Readingaccount fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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Nov 17, 2013 02:48
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Jonny Nox posted:Oh. Until your post, I thought that's how it was spelled. Some spelling mistakes are to funny to correct....
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Nov 17, 2013 08:11
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Grey Hunter posted:Some spelling mistakes are to funny to correct.... I like how you're insinuating that you notice the spelling mistakes, or care about them :P
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Nov 17, 2013 08:17
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Neruz posted:I like how you're insinuating that you notice the spelling mistakes, or care about them :P I notice some, and care about most. I shall defiantly be spelling defiantly defiantly however.
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Nov 17, 2013 09:01
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It wouldn't be the real Grey Hunter ExperienceTM without the spelling mistakes.
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Nov 17, 2013 09:10
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Grey Hunter posted:I notice some, and care about most. I shall defiantly be spelling defiantly defiantly however. After 5 years, we've all learned to mentally substitute "definitely", don't worry.
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Nov 17, 2013 16:55
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Volmarias posted:After 5 years, we've all learned to mentally substitute "definitely", don't worry. I'm actually too short sighted/read words as a complete shape to be able to make out the precise letters so I didn't even notice until it was pointed out.
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Nov 18, 2013 12:26
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 Mercenaries are raised and sent north, meanwhile, the peasants revolt.  The army forms up, but not in time, the Muslim forces assault the cities, throwing away lives for time. This allows them to bring the war to a close before Ghanan forces can be brought to bare.  Every Mansa needs a nickname, Bongo the Fat shall be Bongas.   The army marches to engage the peasants, who run away.  We quickly retake the land they took then give chase, finally bringing them to battle.  They are defeated in two battles and the leader captured and banished, leaving the state 75 gold.   Duru leads a mass revolt against Bongo.  The Mansa raises his troops, and soon battles are erupting across the country.  The Rebels win a string of early victories before Bonga is able to mass his forces and begin to clean them up.   Leading from the front, Bonga dies in battle.  Ten year old Fadazu takes the throne, greedy and gluttonous, his is not looking like the best of rulers so far.  The war continues, a Duru is slain in battle. Unfortunately, not THAT Duru.  Isolated in the castle, Fadazu is happy with his lot.  The war has gone on long enough that fresh levies can be raised, these numbers tip the war finally into the Loyalist camp.  Fadazu learns to be a just ruler.   Just when you think things can't get any worse....  Days later, the largest of Fadazu's armies, nine thousand men in all, melts away, returning to their masters. The Duru war is ended with a white peace.  As soon as these lords agree to the peace, their men are once more raised to deal with the new war!  Fadazu is learning from this constant conflict, he learns that he must always strive to be the best!   The war drags on through numerous small battles, but the Loyalist forces (made up mainly of former traitors) once more tip the scales.  Finally, the last major rebel force is caught in battle.   Having spent all of his reign at war, Fadazu finally comes of age, he is a master of the books, and not to shoddy in his learning. He is just, kind, ambitious if a bit gluttonous.  The rebels meanwhile, have also raised fresh troops. The Ghanan army marches to deal with them.   The war ends, its almost like no-one can remember what they were fighting over.  Only Lignure is slow to return to the fold, but quickly return under threat of war.  For the first time in eight years the kingdom it at peace. The Mansa empties his prisons of twelve noblemen and women captured during the revolts.  Fadazu legitimize his first bastard.   The Qadirid's have another civil war. With his manpower recovered, Fadazu orders an attack. This time the smaller target of Infi is chosen for the holy war.  The forces mass, by the Qadirid forces get the quicker and inflict defeats on the Ghanan forces.  The only thing that saves us from a total rout is the two rebel forces fighting each other.  To make matters worse, smallpox runs through the nation, claiming many, including the Mansa's son!   The reformed Ghanan force goes once more into battle.  We win the battle and the war! Capturing the Sultan give them no other choice but to cede the lands to Ghana.   Fadazu gets a legitimate daughter and a new nickname.   The Thirteenth Century is about to begin, and Ghana has not changed much in size in the last hundred years.  Aquitaine is currently undergoing a civil war, otherwise it is a strong nation.  France still holds land in Italy, while Lombardy is still strong.  Wessex, Scotland and Ireland still fight it out over Britannia.  Norway and Finland are the major Scandinavian powers.  Central Europe is a patchwork of small nations.  The Seljuk Turks have broken down into a number of large nations in Eastern Europe.  The Romans are fragmented but still hanging in there.  The same large powers rule the Middle East and north-east Africa. The Shushtarids are another Slejuk offshoot. 
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Grey Hunter posted:
Why would we lose piety for legitimizing bastards, surely the snake in the well only approves of such activities.
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WhitemageofDOOM posted:Why would we lose piety for legitimizing bastards, surely the snake in the well only approves of such activities. Simple. A true Ogoonu Mansa does not need to legitimise the many children born outside the royal bed, as he should have sired a dozen on his wife as well. It suggests a desperate king whose seed is weak and whose devotion to the well snake is flagging.
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Nov 18, 2013 19:36
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Hopefully now that Grey conquered us some pretty borders, we'll manage to keep those lands. That's two holy wars we have won and lost!
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Nov 18, 2013 20:22
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nimby posted:Hopefully now that Grey conquered us some pretty borders, we'll manage to keep those lands. That's two holy wars we have won and lost! The borders will not be good enough until the two ends meet.  Hopefully we can control all of the land up to the Strait of Gibraltar. I would be content with that.
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Nov 18, 2013 21:05
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nimby posted:Hopefully now that Grey conquered us some pretty borders, we'll manage to keep those lands. That's two holy wars we have won and lost! The borders are not yet as pretty as possible. We need to secure Morocco!
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Hyord posted:The borders are not yet as pretty as possible. We need to secure And possibly Vestisland.
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Nov 18, 2013 21:09
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Hyord posted:The borders are not yet as pretty as possible. We need to secure I mean, if we're aiming big, might as well go straight for the top prize (and it's technically ours anyway ...
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Serpentis posted:I mean, if we're aiming big, might as well go straight for the top prize (and it's technically ours anyway Rome? Also, is Byzantium having a civil war, or is the empire just that broken up?
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Nov 18, 2013 21:31
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Veloxyll posted:Rome? All 37 of them. 
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Nov 18, 2013 22:15
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Soylent Pudding posted:All 37 of them. In a row?
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Nov 19, 2013 01:33
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There is but one Rome, and all others are just imitators. 
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Nov 19, 2013 01:37
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Veloxyll posted:Rome? Who needs to become Rome? We should become Carthage instead.
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Nov 19, 2013 01:52
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So it should be, what, another decade or so before the Mongols show up and start ruining everyone's poo poo?
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ChrisAsmadi posted:Who needs to become Rome? We should become Carthage instead. Yep, we don't need those Eurocentric titles, the Snake has its own legacy!
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ChrisAsmadi posted:Who needs to become Rome? We should become Carthage instead. We should. Problem is, Rome beat Carthage. So what we need to do is conquer Rome before we become Carthage. ...and maybe Byzantium. And St. Petersburg, just to be safe. Heck, let's conquer all the Romes, just to make absolutely sure we don't end up in another set of Punic Wars... and so the Mansa can sleep with women from every Rome.
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Does anyone know where I can find a list of Romes? It's pretty difficult to find anything on the net claiming anything beyond third Rome. Oh, and Grey, will you be editing Ghanan culture to Ogoonu culture by EU4, as suggested by someone? Potentially horrible if hilarious implications, but awesome enough to be worth it.
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The Sandman posted:So it should be, what, another decade or so before the Mongols show up and start ruining everyone's poo poo? Its the start of the 13th century now so the Mongol hordes should come rolling out of the steppes in about a decade or two; the Mongol Empire started quite early in the 13th century but it took until aroind 1220 before it reached far enough west to be part of this map. Readingaccount posted:Does anyone know where I can find a list of Romes? It's pretty difficult to find anything on the net claiming anything beyond third Rome. Im pretty sure almost every semi-major european empire was declaring itself the new Rome in this era. Neruz fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Nov 19, 2013 |
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'Third Rome' and the idea of various peoples keepng the Roman flame alight is really just the Russian's spin on the whole Romes thing: everyone has a vague Rome myth somewhere (Bede, writing the 7th century, claims the British Isles are first settled by Brutus). Hell even if you restrict it to places with 'Rome' in the actual name, OTL has three Romes at this rough stage in the game in the HRE and Byzantium, plus the Sultanate of Rum (in Anatolia). e: basically if you want to sound legitimate say you're Rome.
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Obliterati posted:'Third Rome' and the idea of various peoples keepng the Roman flame alight is really just the Russian's spin on the whole Romes thing: everyone has a vague Rome myth somewhere (Bede, writing the 7th century, claims the British Isles are first settled by Brutus). Hell even if you restrict it to places with 'Rome' in the actual name, OTL has three Romes at this rough stage in the game in the HRE and Byzantium, plus the Sultanate of Rum (in Anatolia). HRE, Byzantium, Sultanate of Rum, and the Bishop of Rome, and however much of the Italian country side he's grabbing at at the moment.
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Nov 19, 2013 11:24
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What happened to Sweden? They went from dominating Scandinavia to non-existent between a pair of updates.
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GenHavoc posted:What happened to Sweden? They went from dominating Scandinavia to non-existent between a pair of updates. It looks like Finland happened.
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Wasn't Karelia in charge? I think you might be thinking of Viscardus' LP.
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I wouldn't say Finland is in charge. Those counties are large, but comparatively lovely; those 10-12 counties of theirs likely have only 15-20 holdings in total, while Bergslagen is likely to have twice that. If Finland were to attack Bergslagen, they would most likely get their asses sorely whipped. They should be pretty secure up there, though, if they're still Suomenesku, or whatever their particular brand of paganism was called - if Bergslagen were to invade Finland, they'd most likely lose all their levies to attrition in a heartbeat.
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the JJ posted:HRE, Byzantium, Sultanate of Rum, and the Bishop of Rome, and however much of the Italian country side he's grabbing at at the moment.  The Papal State was actually a remnant from the Byzantine reconquest of Italy in the mid-sixth century. After the Black Death ravaged the Empire, it was unable to prevent the Lombards from swarming into the peninsula in the 570s. The old Roman provinces that had governed Italy even through the collapse of the Western Empire were dissolved and replaced with minor duchies around the major cities, with the Exarch of Ravenna (supposedly) commanding them all in the Emperor's name.With the Muslim and Slavic invasions of the 600s and 700s, the Empire never gathered the resources to secure Italy again. The Exarchate slowly began to shift into feudalism as the cities became more and more independent, until the last Exarch was killed by the Lombards in 751. Imperial ambassadors went to Pepin, King of the Franks, and asked him to reconquer the exarchate for the Emperor. There was a legal reason - the Franks had been assigned land in the Empire four hundred years earlier as federati, meaning they were largely autonomic vassals of the Emperor, a status which had continued even after the Western half collapsed. Of course, after four centuries of independence and the Muslim invasions destroying any chance of the Empire projecting power in Western Europe, the Franks weren't particularly beholden to the distant Emperor. Pepin replied that he would conquer Italy, but for the city of Rome. And so he did, granting the former exarchate's territory to the Pope.
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The point is, it's another Rome.
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Byzantine posted:
I had always thought that Pepin gave the Papal States to the pope as a favor in exchange for the pope's crowning him. I never heard of an imperial delegation to the Franks until their little squabble with Charlemagne.
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How many Romes does Rome count as by now?
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Arglebargle III posted:How many Romes does Rome count as by now? Half a Rome, it's too worn-out to count for more.
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