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jivjov posted:I'm looking at it right now and I'm not seeing anything other than shiny regeneration light. Really? Spot the difference:  
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thexerox123 posted:Really? Spot the difference: While composing this post I brought up both images, zoomed in, and flipped back and forth. Y'all are totally right. I see it more in the eyebrows and chin rather than the eyes themselves, that's what was throwing me off.
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Here's a supposed spoiler breakdown of the Christmas Special via Gallifrey Base. If true, it's obviously missing a lot of context for some things, like the Silence apparently being good guys in the whole matter and the cracks of time appearing:Gallifrey Base posted:Christmas Special: (possibly called Time Of The Doctor) From what I can gather from other posts from the spoiler provider, the Silence were trying to stop the Doctor from eventually coming there for fear he would be forced to open the time lock and re-start the Time War. We now know though that didn't exactly happen via the 50th. In reply to another poster, the spoiler provider also added: "The cracks appear throughout the episode. They're haunting Eleven as the years tick by. I guess they're waiting for the right moment." Also no idea what they're doing with Tasha Lem, perhaps a chance for a return of Romana living under a different name? Other spoiler rumors say that the Time Lord are responsible for the cracks, and they gift the Doctor a new set of regenerations as thanks for saving them. Teek fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Nov 25, 2013 |
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Nov 25, 2013 18:02
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I say BS. I do not think that anyone in the production would let any spoilers out.
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Nov 25, 2013 18:07
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Spoilers always leak out for episodes though, this is nothing new. This is just quite a bit. GB is treating the person like a reliable source too, so the user has apparently given solid info in the past. The spoiler provider also has said they don't know everything, that's just a summary of what they do have.
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Nov 25, 2013 18:08
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I actually like that, all save the end - I hope that if it DOES go that route, there's a tiny bit more explanation than the cracks just open and somehow the Doctor is able to regenerate again because stuff. Everything else sounds grand, though. I'm hopeful if the spoilers prove true.
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Nov 25, 2013 18:13
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I really, really hope not. A lot of it might work, except for the fact that the Doctor, the 11th, SHOULD KNOW HE HAS ONE MORE REGENERATION. The 13th shows up to help in the Galifrey fight! He's the one who REMEMBERS that right? That and can we please, please stop, PLEASE, treating Regeneration as magical Anime Power Up Bullshit? The regrowing a hand thing kind of makes sense, but ever since River used it as legitimate super powers it's always bugged the hell out of me.
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Nov 25, 2013 18:21
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Burkion posted:I really, really hope not. A lot of it might work, except for the fact that the Doctor, the 11th, SHOULD KNOW HE HAS ONE MORE REGENERATION. The 13th shows up to help in the Galifrey fight! He's the one who REMEMBERS that right? Depends, did the earlier Doctors remember the later Doctors once they returned to their time? I don't believe so. So feasibly he wouldn't remember 13 coming to help. Not sure if that applies to the Curator either. He seems to be his own thing. Obliviously a *wink* to the fans, but still working within the context of the story.
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Nov 25, 2013 18:23
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Let me be the first to say that I hope none of that is true. It sounds like poo poo.
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Nov 25, 2013 18:23
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Maera Sior posted:Let me be the first to say that I hope none of that is true. It sounds like poo poo. I tend to agree, frankly I think it would have worked better too without forcing it to be a Christmas episode as well.
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Nov 25, 2013 18:25
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Teek posted:I tend to agree, frankly I think it would have worked better too without forcing it to be a Christmas episode as well. Do we know just how Christmassy this one is though? It seems to take place during the winter, but so far it doesn't look very holiday-filled. (From the whole 15 seconds we saw)
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Nov 25, 2013 18:30
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Certainly sounds Christmassy, with the snow, a village called Christmas Town and the Doctor aging into some sort of Santa-like figure.
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Nov 25, 2013 18:38
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Tasha - Mustache - Bushy Mustache - Bush Lem - Mel
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Nov 25, 2013 19:04
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I haven't been following this thread, but has anyone cobbled together a nice wallpaper of that scene with the 12 Doctors standing together?
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Nov 25, 2013 19:05
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Honestly, it feels like it's trying to be safe and it kinda felt into a niche. I admit fully that doctor who has fell into a rut that, while not bad, feels quite limiting in time and space. I guess the best example was yesterday. I watched the following things of note for the first time with a friend as a sort of doctor who day: An Adventure in Space and Time The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot The Night of the Doctor The Day of the Doctor and honestly, the day of the doctor was the weakest link. heck even the Strax promos that I also watched felt more fun, abet short (and they really need to let the trio do more for promotion, they are awesome). beware after this point, there be spoilers: . . . . . . . . . . . . . An Adventure in Space and Time tore my heart out and showed me a interpretation of the real life pathos of William Hartnell. David Bradley does such a fantastic job channeling the past that if they ever needed to reshoot for the lost episodes, he would be my first choice. It also forever ruins my ability to mock David Tennant's last line as the doctor.  The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot was a hilarious romp through yesteryear and the bbc would be drat fools to not keep using Peter, Colin and Sly in webizodes. They blew it away with good humor. It also shows that Moffat is a drat fool for sidelining them. The Night of the Doctor is awesome for it's own reasons. It shows that Paul McGann really is the 8th doctor and recycles stuff from the past to create the premise of the episode Now we get to the Day of the Doctor. Let me state that it isn't bad. In fact if it were a regular episode it would be one of the better ones, but for the 50th anniversary episode, it felt underwhelming. The premise was solid enough. If you could stop the greatest regret your life should you do it. I would say yes. Matt and David had fantastic chemistry and john Hurt was criminally underused up to this point. They episode made me laugh uncontrollably at times and the story was well told. Heck it was awesome to see unit and Kate Stewart needs to be used more. Heck I liked the usage of the Zygons and earthers conflict and the solution reached. However 1. I understand why they couldn't, but the absence of Christopher Eccleston really was felt. John Hurt was a throw away character only created because Christopher Eccleston didn't come back, but he needed more time to establish him as a doctor trying to balance his gentle nature with the horrors of war. He didn't really feel like a soul scarred veteran as a grumpy old man telling his future incantations to "get off his lawn." He needed at least one full episode to establish himself to get things started. 2. they managed to make Rose even a greater "special snowflake" then they ever did in previous incantations. Although Billie Piper's acting ability allowed me to delay realizing it for a while, so well done. She literally as a sentient weapon of mass destruction retconned to make rose the most special Mary Sue in all of whodom. I had to check to ensure that it wasn't rtd writing the script. :p. 3. The sidelining of a ton of mythos and the general disregard of previous doctor whose was a bit of a disgrace. I'm glad they participated in the fiveish doctor reboot and Paul McGann usage in night of the doctor was well done. But we've lost so much due to callousness that it kinda hurts that they disdain some of our living artifacts. To be fair it was good to see a grumpy old Tom Baker at the end and kinda kicking myself not realizing the foreshadowing with the adorkable lass with the oversized scarf, even if it was a tad pandering. and it's worse crime: it's short. It wasn't long enough to be a two parter, let alone a 3 part epic mini series. I kinda feel bad for the people whom saw it in the theatre and hope the extras really made up for it (I heard about Strax doing a short showing cinema etiquette that apparently left them laughing in the isles). ********************** To conclude. A long time ago I said the 50th anniversary would make or break nuwho. I guess I was wrong for the day of the doctor did neither.
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I just realized why this sounds so ridiculous to me. Like, I can put it into words. SO you guys remember when the Second Doctor, in the first 24 hours of his regeneration, totally found and destroyed all those Daleks with his super cool regeneration SSJ powers? No? Huh. OK, BUT you remember how the THIRD Doctor, instead of falling into a coma for a bit, instead just punched his way through Auton after Auton and hurled those meteors back into space right? That didn't happen? Well but... The FOURTH Doctor, when that GIANT ROBOT HOLDING SARA JANE showed up, he just ran up and punched it in the dick blasting it apart into a million-really? Never happened? Are you sure?
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shades of eternity posted:2. they managed to make Rose even a greater "special snowflake" then they ever did in previous incantations. Although Billie Piper's acting ability allowed me to delay realizing it for a while, so well done. She literally as a sentient weapon of mass destruction retconned to make rose the most special Mary Sue in all of whodom. I had to check to ensure that it wasn't rtd writing the script. :p. She's not Rose. The Moment's AI chose Rose's appearance from The Doctor's future. I hate Rose, but I enjoyed Piper's performance because she wasn't Rose at all and she had fun with it.
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Nov 25, 2013 19:13
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Teek posted:Certainly sounds Christmassy, with the snow, a village called Christmas Town and the Doctor aging into some sort of Santa-like figure. So 2 years ago we had a special themed around A Christmas Carol...last year had The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe...and this year is....The Nightmare Before Christmas? Or it could be Santa Claus: The Movie. But only if one of the aliens is played by a cackling, hammy John Lithgow.
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Nov 25, 2013 19:15
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shades of eternity posted:John Hurt was a throw away character only created because Christopher Eccleston didn't come back That's just not true, Eccleston was always just regenerated at the start of Rose. He never fought in the Time War. The entire plot of Day of the Doctor requires either Hurt or McGann. More Doctors after the war provides more context to all the ways the choice to use the Moment impacts them, but isn't strictly required. Only Eleven is required. Because it's the 50th I'm sure they would have fit in Eccleston for more than a cameo regeneration scene, but there would always be someone else in the plot at a central role being the War Doctor even *with* Eccleston. I don't know why people keep thinking poo poo was repurposed because Eccleston turned them down.
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Boogaleeboo posted:I don't know why people keep thinking poo poo was repurposed because Eccleston turned them down. Allows them to whine more I guess.
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Nov 25, 2013 19:33
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Teek posted:Here's a supposed spoiler breakdown of the Christmas Special via Gallifrey Base. If true, it's obviously missing a lot of context for some things, like the Silence apparently being good guys in the whole matter and the cracks of time appearing: Haha are you kidding? The Doctor becomes a toymaker in Christmas Town? Is this "Doctor Who meets Rankin-Bass?" I don't believe this for a minute. The idea that basically NONE of the spoilers about Day of the Doctor were correct besides things inferred from set pics of QE1, Zygons, and the National Gallery, but somehow GB has got a detailed plot breakdown of the very next episode is laughable. Also again, I get that having Smith die at Trenzalore where his grave is seems apt, but he literally knows his next self was there in a TARDIS when they ducked Gallifrey out of time. Why would he be so "oh, woe is me, I'm slowly dying over 900 years cause I can't regenerate, Clara!"?
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Nov 25, 2013 20:26
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It is possible that 11 didn't know the Capaldi doc was there. It's all kind of vague.
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Astroman posted:Haha are you kidding? The Doctor becomes a toymaker in Christmas Town? Is this "Doctor Who meets Rankin-Bass?" That's nothing new for a Christmas special though, they tend to be schmaltzy like that. I'm not saying I believe the rumored outline, it's just something several spoiler providers are saying are it.
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Teek posted:That's nothing new for a Christmas special though, they tend to be schmaltzy like that. I'm not saying I believe the rumored outline, it's just something several spoiler providers are saying are it. Isn't Smith supposed to kick the bucket in this year's Christmas special? Or does he have another season in him? Wasn't sure what the timeline was.
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New Leaf posted:Isn't Smith supposed to kick the bucket in this year's Christmas special? Or does he have another season in him? Wasn't sure what the timeline was. This will be his final regular appearance as the Doctor.
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Nov 25, 2013 21:23
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Rhyno posted:This will be his final regular appearance as the Doctor. That kind of sucks for his character. He's coming off this massive victory and he's just going to get ganked immediately afterwards. I guess he has had a few hundred years in that skin, though. It's probably getting a little threadbare.
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Harlock posted:It is possible that 11 didn't know the Capaldi doc was there. This. Only 12 doctors called the war council. 13 snuck in and was detected by the defense grid. It's entirely possible that Capaldi's Doctor was sneaking in from the future to get stuck in the moment in order to break Gallifrey out of stasis. Future plot point, I'm sure.
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New Leaf posted:That kind of sucks for his character. He's coming off this massive victory and he's just going to get ganked immediately afterwards. Wouldn't be the first time. 
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Nov 25, 2013 23:32
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I loved the episode, however, the final line: "At last I know where I’m going. Where I’ve always been going. Home: The long way ’round!" This sounds suspicious and terrible, to me. Cartmel Masterplan, anybody? 
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The Christmas Special is called "The Time of The Doctor":quote:Orbiting a quiet backwater planet, the massed forces of the universe’s deadliest species gather, drawn to a mysterious message that echoes out to the stars. And amongst them – the Doctor. Rescuing Clara from a family Christmas dinner, the Time Lord and his best friend must learn what this enigmatic signal means for his own fate and that of the universe.  http://blogtorwho.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/2013-christmas-special-details-revealed.html
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Tomtrek posted:The Christmas Special is called "The Time of The Doctor": Hey look, it's Handles.
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Blasphemeral posted:I loved the episode, however, the final line: The final regeneration problem will be solved with looms. 
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Nov 26, 2013 01:10
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Well those spoilers did get the name right so it could be right.
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So is this special just going to ignore that clara wiped all the Dalek's memories of the Doctor?
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Tomtrek posted:The Christmas Special is called "The Time of The Doctor": That seems to fit the spoilers at least.
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Tomtrek posted:The Christmas Special is called "The Time of The Doctor": Huh, guess the synopsis posted earlier is true.
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el burbo posted:Huh, guess the synopsis posted earlier is true. Also, "Silence will fall" wasn't referring to the events of The Name of the Doctor... it was referring to the fact that the Doctor literally wiped out all of his enemies at Trenzalore, after which the signal drawing them all to Trenzalore went silent. This is the future that everyone wanted to avoid by locking the Doctor inside the Pandorica. Varance fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Nov 26, 2013 |
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Mother gently caress no.
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Varance posted:So basically, the Time Lords use the cracks in the universe caused by the TARDIS going boom in S5 as a way to reach out of their pocket dimension to give the Doctor additional regenerations, in order to ensure that their last chance at restoration remains alive. We still don't know what caused the Tardis to go boom, do we?
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Kevos Setzer posted:We still don't know what caused the Tardis to go boom, do we?
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