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Decided to turn on closed captions when you two were discussing it and interestingly enough youtube seems to decipher some of the mashed up noises from the game as words. This is the one that caught my attention the most and paints a nice picture of the game as a whole. Also that sun looks smug as hell.
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Given Keith's knowledge, when are we going to get Let's Play 25 Years of Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing? (Also, heck with that sun; that undersea city's where it's at.)
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Nov 28, 2013 00:50
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So, uh, what's the point of the coins/bonus level if the objective is to type fast and accurately?
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Nov 28, 2013 05:55
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Ometeotl posted:So, uh, what's the point of the coins/bonus level if the objective is to type fast and accurately? Entertaining the minds of stupid, stupid children.
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Nov 28, 2013 06:26
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Entertaining the minds of stupid, stupid children. That and resting your hand for a moment from all the furious typing.
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Nov 28, 2013 06:34
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IHaveATinyWilly posted:Decided to turn on closed captions when you two were discussing it and interestingly enough youtube seems to decipher some of the mashed up noises from the game as words. This is the one that caught my attention the most and paints a nice picture of the game as a whole. Youtube's automatic captions are only so good... I've tried to use automatic captioning and translation of captions to watch foreign-language videos, and the results, are, well, bizarre. Unfortunately I didn't think to use them to make it through the video, I had to give up halfway through. The fact that the sound got picked up on the recording is a bit puzzling to me, the PC speaker is literally the little thing that chirps during the bootstrap process. Some old games could do decent things with the PC speaker, but you had to design for it properly, not just try to pass every noise the game made out of the poor little thing.
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Nov 28, 2013 08:37
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When I was a kid I was wheelchair bound for about a year and while everyone got to go to PE and recess I was stuck in the library with old rear end computers and this game. I didn't have a SNES either so this was my only exposure to Mario until much later. In the context of a kid with nothing else to do, stuck in a chair this game was pretty rad back in the day. In retrospect its amazing I still like Mario at all these days with this as my first game though I think this game may have caused me to have some Stockholm Syndrome with regards to it's actual quality. (Yes I am saying that you would enjoy this game if you were tied to a chair and forced to play it) LeafyOrb fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Nov 28, 2013 |
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Nov 28, 2013 12:49
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Red_October_7000 posted:The fact that the sound got picked up on the recording is a bit puzzling to me, the PC speaker is literally the little thing that chirps during the bootstrap process. They're using DOSBox - it emulates the PC speaker through the actual sound card, I believe, and the native recording capability picks that up as well. As of version 0.73, it also emulates the CD player capability - in version 0.72, it just issued "play" commands to the CD drive, the same way DOS did. At the time I used it, I had a laptop that actually had the CD audio cable hooked up and could play the sound, but DOSBox didn't record it. I had to do some interesting workarounds for my LPs at the time! One of my earliest computers didn't have a sound card, so I had to use the PC speaker sound for the games I had at the time. Revisiting them decades later with a proper sound card, I almost don't recognize them! There's a part of me that actually likes the old bleepy music better than the way it was always intended to sound. If I'd played Mario Teaches Typing, though, I believe I'd have to make an exception for it - games that use the PC speaker shouldn't try to play music and sound effects. (i.e. if you can't figure out how to switch the sound settings to Sound Blaster outside the game, you can still turn off the sound effects in the in-game menu)
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Nov 28, 2013 13:12
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Reveilled posted:If it makes you feel any better, nobody makes rules for English and people who genuinely get worked up over stuff like whether there should be one or two spaces after a full stop are silly. If you want to put two spaces in, just do it. Allow me to introduce you to my associates, Messirs Strunk & White. My minor in college was writing, and I was made to memorize that guide like a bible. Double Spacing after sentence ends and semicolons is a rule, not a suggestion, and people who say otherwise are just whiny and lazy. Androids also automatically add periods when double spacing. If all the word processors know you should, then aren't the complainers just not paying attention?
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Nov 29, 2013 04:21
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Choco1980 posted:Double Spacing after sentence ends and semicolons is a rule, not a suggestion, and people who say otherwise are just whiny and lazy. Androids also automatically add periods when double spacing. If all the word processors know you should, then aren't the complainers just not paying attention? Blackberry does that as well. I think it was only through online and laziness that I learned that using one space after a period was "ok" but if I hand in papers that way then I get a nice talking to from my prof.
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Choco1980 posted:Allow me to introduce you to my associates, Messirs Strunk & White. My minor in college was writing, and I was made to memorize that guide like a bible. Beyond some sound grammar rules that are conjured from the dirt that is English grammar, a lot of Strunk's guide boils down to his personal bias (or not liking how some young'uns use some words). It's nice getting some ground rules for the language, but now and then the rules are just silly and/or dated.
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Nov 29, 2013 04:52
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Zeikier posted:Beyond some sound grammar rules that are conjured from the dirt that is English grammar, a lot of Strunk's guide boils down to his personal bias (or not liking how some young'uns use some words). It's nice getting some ground rules for the language, but now and then the rules are just silly and/or dated. Brevity and directness are pretty pro guidelines when writing. Most of the things you're taught as rules for English are suggestions for clarity. Keith could probably set us straight wrt Strunk and White if he's still pursuing a writing career.
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Nov 29, 2013 05:09
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Jack Gladney posted:Brevity and directness are pretty pro guidelines when writing. Most of the things you're taught as rules for English are suggestions for clarity. Keith could probably set us straight wrt Strunk and White if he's still pursuing a writing career. Which definitely made Strunk's instructions for keeping things that way a quick yet informative read. Then you got to White's sections where he contradicts the whole "brevity and directness" thing. Technical writing and creative writing do not mix. As for typing games, I only had a typing course when I got to high school. Only barely learned about homerow typing before then, and I never liked how restricting it was. Freestyle becomes muscle memory eventually, so good riddance.
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Nov 29, 2013 05:24
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Zeikier posted:Beyond some sound grammar rules that are conjured from the dirt that is English grammar, a lot of Strunk's guide boils down to his personal bias (or not liking how some young'uns use some words). It's nice getting some ground rules for the language, but now and then the rules are just silly and/or dated. If you ever read the 'language log' blog, a university level linguistics blog, you'd be amazed by how often Strunk and whatsits guide comes up and how often they demonstrate that the 'rules' contained within have been consistently broken by the greatest writers of the English language (both before, at the time of, and after the time these rules were writen). And re: 1 space versus 2: do whatever you like. Unless you're writing in a really crappy word processor or something which uses monospaced fonts, then it will be converted to the standard printed style (which is typically 1 space between sentences) - for instance see below: This is sentence one. There is once space between sentence one and two. This is sentence one. There are two spaces between sentence one and two. This is sentence one. There are ten spaces between sentence one and two. There is a slight argument for consistency that one should only use one space 'just in case' some software doesn't work with it, but it's pretty weak. Having said that two spaces should not be taught (but equally you shouldn't replace a bad rule with a better, but equally dictatorial rule!). Edit: Sorry - got my examples a little wrong - it's like 5AM here and I'm suffering from insomnia! NeoAnjou fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Nov 29, 2013 |
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Nov 29, 2013 05:40
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NeoAnjou posted:This is sentence one. There is once space between sentence one and two. I read this over and over and I had absolutely no clue what you were trying to say. Once I quoted it, I realized you meant something like: This is sentence one. There is one space between sentence one and this sentence. This is sentence two. There are two spaces between sentence two and this sentence. This is sentence three. There are ten spaces between sentence three and this sentence. For the love of god man, when discussing the subtleties of language, please take a second to proofread your posts!
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Just gonna plug that Icarus Proudbottom Teaches Typing was one of many fine games made over the course of this year's SA Gamedev Challenge.
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NeoAnjou posted:If you ever read the 'language log' blog, a university level linguistics blog, you'd be amazed by how often Strunk and whatsits guide comes up and how often they demonstrate that the 'rules' contained within have been consistently broken by the greatest writers of the English language (both before, at the time of, and after the time these rules were writen). In MS Word and most other processors, two spaces do appear wider than one. However, the forums use some kind of html parsing, and in html any space beyond the first one is simply ignored, which is why you won't find any webpages with two spaces after a period. Unless they went out of their way to insert non breaking spaces everywhere. Strangely enough, as far as I've seen this discussion as a non-native English speaker (in my language it's just one space after a period. Period.), this stuff seems region bound. The double space seems less common in Britain, but also in certain US States. Really weird. Note that if you live in a single space area, your prof can and will use any double spaces against you. Carbon dioxide fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Nov 29, 2013 |
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Nov 29, 2013 07:26
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For some reason I remember no specific rules on how many spaces after the period that are required when I was in grade school, so I always used one - it wasn't until I started taking typing/word processing classes in junior high that I adopted the 'two space' rule, and that's only because Microsoft Word at the time (~1997ish) wouldn't autocorrect, but instead would put the 'bad grammar' squiggly lines underneath the single space, so I adopted that method even though I thought it was kind of stupid and now two space is a habit. It's pretty frustrating to have to, again, put an effort into something as simple as how many spaces I need after a period, but I'm willing to bet most word processors automatically make whatever you write 'look' good, whether there are two spaces or one.
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NeoAnjou posted:If you ever read the 'language log' blog, a university level linguistics blog, you'd be amazed by how often Strunk and whatsits guide comes up and how often they demonstrate that the 'rules' contained within have been consistently broken by the greatest writers of the English language (both before, at the time of, and after the time these rules were writen). Including, as it happens (and as Language Log loves to point out), by Strunk and White themselves, on several occasions. In the very book that's sanctioning them. See also this New York Times piece authored by Geoffrey K. Pullum of Language Log and four other contemporary grammar experts. None of them are particularly enthralled with S&W. This is honestly a typography issue anyway, not a grammar one, and typographers are pretty universal in hating two spaces after the end of a sentence. This is a really, really weird derail.
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I think we're getting excessively worked up over our preferences and what we've been taught regarding grammar. Different fields have different interpretations of this rule, and citing this authority or that isn't going to change that.
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Nov 29, 2013 14:31
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Shame they never did a Mario Teaches Grammar sequel really.
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AzraelNewtype posted:This is a really, really weird derail. There's no such thing as a derail in a Run Button thread.
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Nov 29, 2013 16:17
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Look at these plebs knowing that they can't press the up arrow when in DOS to bring back what they just typed. In other news, I love this series. You all are insane, and I am glad I am not you.
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Vrikkian posted:Look at these plebs knowing that they can't press the up arrow when in DOS to bring back what they just typed. Actually this was not a feature in dos (without running "Doskey.com") until after Windows 2000. F3 was the key to bring up the last line I believe. Actually I may be remembering the windows 98 command line, so don't take this as gospel.
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Laocius posted:There's no such thing as a derail in a Run Button thread. 
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If Facebook has taught me anything, it's that grammar is a lie. Spelling too.
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Jonny Nox posted:Actually this was not a feature in dos (without running "Doskey.com") until after Windows 2000. F3 was the key to bring up the last line I believe. I don't know about F3, but you are correct about up not being a standard DOS feature. DOSkey was so great.
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Shintaro posted:I don't know about F3, but you are correct about up not being a standard DOS feature. DOSkey was so great. Maybe I had Doskey installed. I don't know. My first legit computer was a Win95 machine (playing C&C 95 on loop until the disk melted from overuse), so DOS was not my native OS. I only used it when I tried to install and play TIE Fighter.
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   Mario Teaches Typing (1991) Part 2/4 (LP pt.39) [Youtube]
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This game is clearly loving with you, there's no way any sane developer would have ever made you type that much pointless symbol garbage. (also a ^ in programming is usually a XOR, not exponent) e: Oh my god it's getting worse. Admiral H. Curtiss fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Nov 29, 2013 |
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Nov 29, 2013 20:49
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gently caress all of this one/two spaces after a period discussion, the concept of having a comma after a question mark is what we need to discuss. What even is that?, who would think of such a thing?, and why?
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Nov 29, 2013 21:05
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I can't believe the game forces you back to lessons you cleared already if you gently caress up (the game unpaused while you hosed around on Twitter and I guess Mario got eaten by the fish or something). "You messed up on bullshit shift+number bar garbage you use maybe 1% of the time on your keyboard at most, go back to just the numbers!" I mean, it makes no sense from a learning standpoint. How are you going to get better at symbols if every time you fail, you're taken back to the previous lesson you've already passed?
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The Diablo III difficulty levels thing you mention sounds like the monster power setting in the PC version. How to have fun in D3: hardcore character, no AH usage, monster power 10, dumb gimmick build (Demon Hunter with no ranged weapons or hatred generator skills!).
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Man, this game does sound different on other sound settings. We missed out on Interplay's answer to Charles Martinet going "On your mark; get set; GO!" (It's in the first minute of the video; later on, watch out for BIG SPOILERS for later levels.)
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I was wondering why this looked so different from what I remember. Turns out I played the sequel.
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how do they gently caress up the level order and put swimming before underground?
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:This game is clearly loving with you, there's no way any sane developer would have ever made you type that much pointless symbol garbage. ...how is this somehow worse than loving Mavis Beacon
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Nov 29, 2013 23:19
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Internet Janitor posted:Just gonna plug that Icarus Proudbottom Teaches Typing was one of many fine games made over the course of this year's SA Gamedev Challenge. Just played through this and yeah, you all should check it out, it's pretty great. And not too long either, just half an hour or so. Much better than this symbol and number crap that Mario Teaches Typing throws at you. http://www.holywowstudios.com/teachestyping/
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Guys I don't think I can take another hour of this. Watching you suffer is fun and all but my ears are suffering too.
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I can't believe there are two more videos of this.
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