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Manifest Dynasty posted:Being able to choose two bots is interesting. I hope there are some decent mix-and-match strategies going on there. If there were options to customize the bot's appearance I'd have no question which class I'd be playing. Well there's e: gently caress, misread. ZAM article's saying there's only four types, so six (or ten) different combinations. Artillery, Diminsher, Bruiser, Repair. 404GoonNotFound fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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Pryce posted:We'll be sure to cover it on the livestream, but in short using a bot replaces the "Summon bot" ability on your bar with a single active ability for that bot (with a long-ish cooldown... maybe 30 seconds). There's also a pet bar which lets you choose aggressive/assist/passive/etc, target a specific dude, tell them to go to a specific location, or come back and follow you. Any word on how the medics aren't gonna be super gimped with a major mechanic being stationary in such a mobile game? I don't relish the idea of trying to convince pugs to actually stand in my laser fields...
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I definately want to play the Medic not played a healing class since back in WoW and the mechanics of the medic look pretty interesting. Shocking people with giant electro pads looks fun too
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hampig posted:I'm sure looking forward to micromanaging bots out of telegraphs! There's a pretty good chance that pets either won't have a hitbox, will move on their own or otherwise make it better than the decade-old WoW-style your-cat-just-got-AoE'd shitfest. I honestly don't see Carbine fixing this many problems and missing the biggest one with pets.
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They're certainly aware of it, it's just that games keep coming out and pets keep being annoying! I'm just going by this:quote:“On the raid and dungeon side of it, as we test these things we’re actually able to prioritize what the (enemy) AOEs target first. In some cases we’ll make it so it doesn’t affect pets as much or as often, to make it so they’re actually useful throughout the fight.”
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GROVER CURES HOUSE posted:There's a pretty good chance that pets either won't have a hitbox, will move on their own or otherwise make it better than the decade-old WoW-style your-cat-just-got-AoE'd shitfest. ZAM posted:While most players who prefer these pet classes love the idea of having these companions aid them in battle, the question that usually comes up in regard to this class archetype also reared its head during the round-table. That question being “How will these pets do in the more difficult encounters in the game?” No one likes a useless pet in the fights that count the most. So it sounds like bosses just won't care about pets in most cases, and if it's unavoidable stance dancing will be made as easy as possible. So just position them on a different attack vector than the rest of the party or in a known dead zone and you'll be fine. e: Oh goddammit.
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At the bottom of the Medic site, you can clearly see a Chua using a saw-bone. http://www.wildstar-online.com/en/the-game/classes/medic.php I was really hoping Chua's would be able to roll Medics, but the available races tool says otherwise...
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It IS kinda odd that Dominion only has 2 races capable of being Medics, while Exile's get 3. All the other classes so far have an even split. And it definitely seems to fit with their race's fluff. I wonder if Chua Medics were a victim of triage on race/class animations or something.
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bUm posted:I am kind of curious how gear-dependent the heal/dps vs. tank/dps roles are. I think it's pretty clear they are poking at the holy trinity by making all capable of DPS and one of the essential roles (tank/healing), but I'm curious if they utilize the same stats so you only need a single gear set. I feel many MMOs with hybrids have the hugely tedious task of managing two full sets of gear (especially if you can't have two presets and have to use a third of your bag space carrying around the other set) in order to play optimally in both roles which sends most players into picking one (DPS for a sizable majority, like all other MMOs) and neglecting the other. I just hope they avoid the pitfall that DCUO is in (the first game that came to mind where every character is explicitly DPS or [Role]) where the community decides that DPS i the thing and you bring only as many tanks/healers/etc along to support them. Then again DCUO hosed itself by making Controllers glorified 'blue bar healers' and minimizing their CC ability and that had a lot to do with the resulting community mindset. VVV: I'm not going to derail this thread but it's gone waaay past that point with DCUO. WarLocke fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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Any group is always going to bring as many DPS as they can. Why make the fight take longer for no reason?
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I got into the stress test I guess, but I want the full beta. gently caress.
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THE PWNER posted:I got into the stress test I guess, but I want the full beta. gently caress. I got this as well, but when I applied my key it shows the type as "Beta". Fingers crossed that it will magically work?
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No stress test or CB invite. gently caress. Hopefully I can nab a friend key during their Saturday thing.
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I got a stress test beta key, but I won't have time to play on those days. Someone enjoy: Edit; taken Post if you take it so I can edit this out. Enjoy \/ Lavastine fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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Lavastine posted:I got a stress test beta key, but I won't have time to play on those days. Someone enjoy: 38U6-DLC8-R4U9-VVRV-MLCA I snagged it -- thanks!
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As far as customization goes, are there any type of body sliders or is every single female race just permanently stuck with a pencil thin waist and huge boobs? 
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WarLocke posted:I just hope they avoid the pitfall that DCUO is in (the first game that came to mind where every character is explicitly DPS or [Role]) where the community decides that DPS i the thing and you bring only as many tanks/healers/etc along to support them. This is what happens even in games that have classes that can only heal or tank, why would you think this would be any different?
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QUEEN CAUCUS posted:As far as customization goes, are there any type of body sliders or is every single female race just permanently stuck with a pencil thin waist and huge boobs? Has that ever not been the case in any game with customization, even with sliders? Right now there's only sliders for the face anyway, no height/weight/boob sliders so far and I haven't seen any official discussion of their possible addition.
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QUEEN CAUCUS posted:As far as customization goes, are there any type of body sliders or is every single female race just permanently stuck with a pencil thin waist and huge boobs? Yeah, this is one of my biggest issues. I like the game and the art style but all of the women have waists thinner than their heads plus huge breasts and butts. It looks really silly, especially on the machine people and the Granok.
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Alright what the hell Gmail. An invite for the stress test this weekend showed up on my phone but when I checked on my PC it wasn't there. I finally found the mail in the "promotions" tab and lo and behold, about half a page down is another email from November with 3 real beta keys. Why does Gmail do this?
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Demiurge4 posted:Alright what the hell Gmail. An invite for the stress test this weekend showed up on my phone but when I checked on my PC it wasn't there. I finally found the mail in the "promotions" tab and lo and behold, about half a page down is another email from November with 3 real beta keys. Why does Gmail do this? You can turn the tabs off. I don't regularly use my Gmail, but it seems like a nice feature. That seems like a flaw in their system to be giving people Stress Test keys if they're already members of the CBT. If you aren't planning to use them all with friends, you should actually use the PGS thread set up for key begging to distribute them.
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bUm posted:You can turn the tabs off. I don't regularly use my Gmail, but it seems like a nice feature. I have two friends I'll be playing with  But I'll throw the stress test key in here, first come first serve. Remember it's only valid for this weekend. Edit. Aaand it's gone. Demiurge4 fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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Grabbed it, Thanks for posting it.
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Zorego posted:Grabbed it, Thanks for posting it. ACK! I tried.
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Vanderdeath posted:Yeah, this is one of my biggest issues. I like the game and the art style but all of the women have waists thinner than their heads plus huge breasts and butts. It looks really silly, especially on the machine people and the Granok. I get that they're going for a pulpy comic look, but it is kind of jarring how wasp-waisted many of the female models are. If anything those kinds of proportions make more sense on machines (no organs) and the Granok are pretty solidly built overall. Humans and Aurin, however, look like they're wearing xtreme space corsets 24/7. I suspect it's a little late in the game to do much about that. One thing they might do to cut down on the females' perceived disproportion is shorten their arms, because right now they're a full hand-length too long compared to the male models. If there's not an animation-related reason for this, it should be tweaked, because it looks more silly than stylistic. That's kind of my only complaint about Wildstar's aesthetic, which is saying something. I'd be curious to hear the official position on the subject, though. A lot of women play MMOs who probably won't be thrilled about being limited to that build, and more than a few men will feel the same. Gerudo Rivera fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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I can't help but feel that some of you might be very disappointed once you actually get into the beta. The hype machine is really strong in this thread. To temper your expectations you should basically think you're going in to play WOW 2.0 beta. This is a REAL beta and not some PR demo thing.
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Stanley Pain posted:I can't help but feel that some of you might be very disappointed once you actually get into the beta. The hype machine is really strong in this thread. To temper your expectations you should basically think you're going in to play WOW 2.0 beta. This is a REAL beta and not some PR demo thing. I'm a filthy sadist who enjoyed Everquest (for its time) and original WoW, but that sounds pretty fun to me. As long as combat is already as good as it looks, I'm sold.
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Oiled and Ready posted:I'm a filthy sadist who enjoyed Everquest (for its time) and original WoW, but that sounds pretty fun to me. As long as combat is already as good as it looks, I'm sold. Yeah there's nothing wrong with wanting a refined wow experience. Wow changed the face of MMO development for better and worse. I enjoyed my time in vanilla (quit when I tried out the Burning Crusade Beta). I'm kinda on the fence about the combat system but it's probably because it needs a lot more refinement. It feels kinda janky to me, and it's trying to be a couple of things at the same time. I've gotten very used to the movement/combat in GW2 and if they can get Wildstar to be as responsive and fluid feeling it'll probably play well enough.
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Stanley Pain posted:I can't help but feel that some of you might be very disappointed once you actually get into the beta. The hype machine is really strong in this thread. To temper your expectations you should basically think you're going in to play WOW 2.0 beta. This is a REAL beta and not some PR demo thing. We've been telling ourselves this for the past 10 months in this thread yet it hasn't stopped us from  ing after every announcement.
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If any kind soul has an extra friend key, I'll totally be your friend if I can have it. I make the best friend, I promise! I'll even bring marshmallows to the hot chocolate.
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raingwc posted:If any kind soul has an extra friend key, I'll totally be your friend if I can have it. I make the best friend, I promise! I'll even bring marshmallows to the hot chocolate. I'll be an even better Friend than Raingwc plus I have a witty british accent! ..can't believe I didnt get into beta this is what I'm reduced to 
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VoLaTiLe posted:I'll be an even better Friend than Raingwc plus I have a witty british accent! A new wave of beta invites AND a new wave of stress test invites and still no email, there must be just one answer to this. They're keeping me down, the devs are listening indeed, surveillance! Fight the power! fake edit: Oh and while you might have a british accent, I'm a handsome Swede, we all know we're all handsome and got pretty women over here and my girlfriend got plenty of friends, HINT HINT.
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raingwc posted:A new wave of beta invites AND a new wave of stress test invites and still no email, there must be just one answer to this. They're keeping me down, the devs are listening indeed, surveillance! You have to be like me and totally forget you applied for this. That's how you get a beta invite.
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Doh004 posted:We've been telling ourselves this for the past 10 months in this thread yet it hasn't stopped us from I blame their very goood marketing department. Every time I see a devspeak I get a bit excited too. They're really well done.
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Stanley Pain posted:
I'm the opposite. I tried to go back to GW2 a few weeks ago and I thought it felt awful after playing a lot of Wildstar. That might just be GW2 not having sprint, though. 
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Phoix posted:I'm the opposite. I tried to go back to GW2 a few weeks ago and I thought it felt awful after playing a lot of Wildstar. That might just be GW2 not having sprint, though. No, but you do have swiftness  I'm just a jaded old MMO player. I feel that the combat in Wildstar could be a lot better (and it'll probably get a lot better). GW2 does fluidity and movement very well (especially now that they've removed a lot of the rooting effects or certain leaps, etc). If I were to choose buying this game today based on what I've played I'd give it a pass. If the tighten up combat a lot, I might still give it a pass due to the sub (yes I went there). We'll see how it goes, they have a decent enough base built out so far but at the same time I think they're holding onto too many "old school" trains of thought when it comes to MMO development.
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Stanley Pain posted:I'm just a jaded old MMO player. I feel that the combat in Wildstar could be a lot better (and it'll probably get a lot better). GW2 does fluidity and movement very well (especially now that they've removed a lot of the rooting effects or certain leaps, etc). I agree and feel the same. I appreciate this game will appeal to a specific audience (whether their glasses are too rose-tinted or not), those longing for a return to raiding days and old school WoW dungeons and attunements and gear grinds, etc etc. I find the combat in GW2 way more fun and enjoyable, and as an old man I think I'll stick with a more casual friendly MMO with no sub fee (yup I went there too). Pryce is pretty awesome though, don't scare him off.
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