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Canopus250
Feb 18, 2005

You guys are taking me along this time? Right? Wait Shaundi is going? This is bullshit man!

Anybody who wants to grind out the dumb friendly match chievos should shoot me an invite at TheButtpipe ingame. I'm playing super poorly with some new decks so I'm not really having much fun at the moment.

Edit: Out for tonight, four straight Ishuma decks and I manage to win two but I'd rather have a nail driven through my dick than risk playing against that again.

Canopus250 fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Dec 8, 2013

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Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"

Darth Windu posted:

So yeah! I started this recently. I like Haven a lot. My favorite strategy in Magic was resource denial - is there a Haven hero I can use to focus on this?

I'm only a few dozen pages into the thread. Is the picture on using gold in the OP still relevant? Is everything in the OP still usable? I'm fairly frightened to use my gold or seals after reading this thread, and all the people who regretted how they used their early rewards.

Keiran the Knight of Negation looks interesting, as do Sandalphon and Siegfried. I like the Haven guys who block damage to nearby creatures. I was thinking maybe a bunch of creatures to delay the enemy, and a bunch of spells to do damage? Would that work?

Is there a site that gives general descriptions of the magic schools and the heroes? The wiki is incredibly sparse.

I update the OP daily. I didn't make the picture, so it's not as up-to-date as the bullet points. So for the advice on how to spend currency, go with the bullet points. Also, if you're gonna drop money, buy the Steam Champ Pack.

The OP gives a brief description of the different factions and schools that's relatively accurate. Use mmodocking.com to look up cards and decks. You can look at all the cards of a specific magic school there, or faction, etc.

One thing that's important about this game, which enforces tactical combat, is that there are very few cards that deal damage to other players. This means that you're relying on your creatures to do damage, or some mill system or weird combo (such as when the player discards a card that player takes damage).

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

Tae posted:

You lost to this Dhamaria deck: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/814800-Pleasure-in-Pain-Slowpoke-Thread

It's annoying, but has the same weakness as any deck relying on bouncing via Throne of Renewal and stalling with Alters/Shield.

Does that deck literally just do damage with Altar of Destruction and then loop the deck with Singularity? That must take loving forever.

Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"
Of note, I'll be updating the OP later tonight with feedback from ApplesandOranges and Josh, on cards that hard counter lock decks.

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008

Dahbadu posted:

Of note, I'll be updating the OP later tonight with feedback from ApplesandOranges and Josh, on cards that hard counter lock decks.



Speaky of, pretty stoked I opened one of these up a minute ago. Is destroy the same as banish? Why can't they use the same drat language.

edit: And I just used it to block an Alter of Shadows. A+, will use again.

unbuttonedclone fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Dec 8, 2013

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
Destroy puts it in the graveyard, Banish removes it from the game entirely.

Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"

thylacine posted:



Speaky of, pretty stoked I opened one of these up a minute ago. Is destroy the same as banish? Why can't they use the same drat language.

Destroy is not banish. Destroy is putting it in the graveyard, Banish is removing it from the game.

Destroy = Destroy in Magic
Banish = Exile in Magic / Remove from game

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe

Dahbadu posted:

I update the OP daily. I didn't make the picture, so it's not as up-to-date as the bullet points. So for the advice on how to spend currency, go with the bullet points. Also, if you're gonna drop money, buy the Steam Champ Pack.

The OP gives a brief description of the different factions and schools that's relatively accurate. Use mmodocking.com to look up cards and decks. You can look at all the cards of a specific magic school there, or faction, etc.

One thing that's important about this game, which enforces tactical combat, is that there are very few cards that deal damage to other players. This means that you're relying on your creatures to do damage, or some mill system or weird combo (such as when the player discards a card that player takes damage).

So are there any resource denial strategies? I actually got Sandalphon in the first void pack I bought (non premium), so that is nice. Thank you for the update.

So, creatures are very important, then. How do Haven play well with such low power creatures? I've won every duel so far, mainly because people are utterly terrible at low elo, but I imagine I will start playing better players soon and I hope to have some way to deal with them. The comeback mechanics and board control of Haven seem good - should I work toward developing these, with more Heals and spells that deal damage to all enemy creatures?

Also jesus god in heaven why are there so many inferno decks.

DangerDongs
Nov 7, 2010

Grimey Drawer

Darth Windu posted:

So are there any resource denial strategies? I actually got Sandalphon in the first void pack I bought (non premium), so that is nice. Thank you for the update.

So, creatures are very important, then. How do Haven play well with such low power creatures? I've won every duel so far, mainly because people are utterly terrible at low elo, but I imagine I will start playing better players soon and I hope to have some way to deal with them. The comeback mechanics and board control of Haven seem good - should I work toward developing these, with more Heals and spells that deal damage to all enemy creatures?

Also jesus god in heaven why are there so many inferno decks.

Haven wins by getting resources quickly and overwhelming the opponent with creatures that protect each other and dropping I think its called Wolf captains. They get +1 attack for every adjacent creature.

Inferno is really good at early ELO, but it loses its power at higher ELO unless you turn it into a control variant.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
The arguably best deck before the 5T expansion was Cassandra Fortune, a deck that plays resource denial cards.

http://tools.mmdocking.com/decks/show/869

This is the base of the deck.

Krakatoah
Jul 8, 2009

Super High-School Level Bean-dog

DangerDongs posted:

Inferno is really good at early ELO, but it loses its power at higher ELO unless you turn it into a control variant.

I'd like to try this out but in a more aggresive way, like forcing my opponent to discard his creatures before he can even summon them giving me the creature advantage in the long term, any way I could possibly do that?

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Krakatoah posted:

I'd like to try this out but in a more aggresive way, like forcing my opponent to discard his creatures before he can even summon them giving me the creature advantage in the long term, any way I could possibly do that?

You could play Pit of Madness in the turns after 5, but playing creatures to continuously apply pressure is the better play 90% of the time.

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe
What do the colors of the cards' names mean? I have a few blue and green named creatures that I am curious about. Different sets?

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Darth Windu posted:

What do the colors of the cards' names mean? I have a few blue and green named creatures that I am curious about. Different sets?

Rarity.

White=Common

Green=Uncommon

Blue=Rare

Orange=Epic

Heroes have their own color.

Quad
Dec 31, 2007

I've seen pogs you people wouldn't believe
Just started this tonight, uPlay name is derekw741.
edit: nvm, server went down.
But yeah I added all you people, I think, before the server crashed tonight, this looks like a lot of fun.

Quad fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Dec 8, 2013

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Quad posted:

Just started this tonight, uPlay name is derekw741.
Is taking forever to load up the Store page or the Altar page, so long in fact that I have to force-close it and try again, a normal thing? Or is 4am just a really busy time of day for the game?

Server seems to be downish, I almost got served out of a tournament win just now. Normally it's really stable, ignoring the latest expansion loving things over.

I think DoC really can't handle a lot of people, and the expansion brought peak people.

Revitalized
Sep 13, 2007

A free custom title is a free custom title

Lipstick Apathy
I just started and am using a Haven deck to kick things off. I like Haven quite a bit. Anyways, I'm almost at 1200 seals! What box do I buy? There's so many different booster boxes! What's the right choice here?

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
I'm saving for the box that costs 3000.

E: My fav part of this game is there is no word filter on deck names. Chuglord Bonermagic is the best deck.

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe

Revitalized posted:

I just started and am using a Haven deck to kick things off. I like Haven quite a bit. Anyways, I'm almost at 1200 seals! What box do I buy? There's so many different booster boxes! What's the right choice here?

I'm in the exact same boat - bought Haven, loving the heck out of them, and have a bunch of seals I'm itching to spend. I'm 25 away from the Five Towers box, I was thinking about waiting for that one. I like me some wild cards.

I've been buying the Herald of the Void packs, but aside from a Haven hero and a Wolf Marksman, haven't gotten anything I really care about. I got a hologram card though, haha, whatever the gently caress that is.

Is the Champion Box worth it if I am buying tons of Herald packs anyway, or should I blow my seals on the Five Towers box? I feel like i'll probably have all the void cards by the time I save up enough seals for the Champ one.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
The key thing is to first unlock the cards in the Alter. Usually wait for a deal or save up for a champion's box because you want the most bang for your buck because seals are valuable.

Stretch Marx
Apr 29, 2008

I'm ok with this.

Revitalized posted:

I just started and am using a Haven deck to kick things off. I like Haven quite a bit. Anyways, I'm almost at 1200 seals! What box do I buy? There's so many different booster boxes! What's the right choice here?

If you like playing defensively then Void Rising has some good Haven creatures. However, since it's the set that Sanctuary comes from almost all the cards in those boxes are for them. Which sucks but oh well.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

HBNRW posted:

If you like playing defensively then Void Rising has some good Haven creatures. However, since it's the set that Sanctuary comes from almost all the cards in those boxes are for them. Which sucks but oh well.

On the other hand, you'll end up with a decent Sanctuary deck which will make it much quicker to grind out the rest of what you need.

Arrrthritis
May 31, 2007

I don't care if you're a star, the moon, or the whole damn sky, you need to come back down to earth and remember where you came from
Hey dudes, just started playing this game a couple of days ago (Uplay name is Arrrthritis) and it's been a blast playing Necropolis. I feel like i'm absolute poo poo when it comes to building a deck, though. Are there any guides out there for the absolute basics on how to deck build for this game? Any particular spells I should be looking for when playing Necropolis?

I kind of want to get a spooky ghosts deck going where I have a ridiculous frontline of beefy ghosts and kind of turn every battle into a war of attrition, but I dunno how viable that is.

Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"
So I updated the OP. Highlights:

-Added info in the buying with gold and seals section
-Added info in the buying with WC section
-Added tip against fighting lock decks

My long-term goal is to have the OP contain enough relevant info, so when someone asks a common question, the answer can simply be "Read the OP." :eng101:

I'd also like to thank everyone that's provided helpful info and contributed to helping us all learn more about this game. Like most people here, I'm new and diving right in. People that come to mind: Josh, Tae, Jedit, ApplesandOranges, Bussamove, TaoJones, etc.

Dahbadu fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Dec 8, 2013

Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"
Oh, there's a new code that works (I tested it today): DUEL-AVEC-O-GAMING

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008

Dahbadu posted:

Oh, there's a new code that works (I tested it today): DUEL-AVEC-O-GAMING

I redeemed it, but what's it supposed to give?

Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"

thylacine posted:

I redeemed it, but what's it supposed to give?

I have no idea! I think it maybe gives you like a mini-pack (because I got one in my inventory today), but I could be wrong.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

Dahbadu posted:

I have no idea! I think it maybe gives you like a mini-pack (because I got one in my inventory today), but I could be wrong.

It's not a mini-pack, gold, or seals, as far as I can tell, because none of that changed for me when it redeemed.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
If anyone wants to practice against Sandy lock to better prepare, message me in-game within the next hour or so.

Stretch Marx
Apr 29, 2008

I'm ok with this.

Arrrthritis posted:

Hey dudes, just started playing this game a couple of days ago (Uplay name is Arrrthritis) and it's been a blast playing Necropolis. I feel like i'm absolute poo poo when it comes to building a deck, though. Are there any guides out there for the absolute basics on how to deck build for this game? Any particular spells I should be looking for when playing Necropolis?

I kind of want to get a spooky ghosts deck going where I have a ridiculous frontline of beefy ghosts and kind of turn every battle into a war of attrition, but I dunno how viable that is.

Necro is good for slow grinding decks in general. They're best for spot removal and can branch into mass damage spells. Soul Reaver is basically Magic's Murder so stocking up on those is generally a good idea. I find Puppet Master is particularly useful as well for using enemy fatties against them if only for temporary reasons since most of the time your opponent will panic and blow all their removal on the creature you stole. Death Seal is a decent removal for the early game.

Seria gives you access to Strength of the Sea which fucks with fortune decks, plus access to water's battlefield stalling spells. Ariana gives you access to ground magic which gives access to battlefield wide attack spells and army regeneration. Malik gives you access to fire which includes line and aoe attack spells and more spot removal. Most Necro heros get access to Primal which includes battlefield manipulation and counter-spells. Fleshbane gives incorporeal things a small health boost, but only has access to Dark spells.

Here's my current Adriana deck. It gets to 1000 EOL easy enough. But I'm getting bored of it so I'm trying other deck types.

Ariana of the Severed Fates - 6-6-0

Events: 8
4x Week of Taxes
3x Blind Arbiters
1X Graduation Day

Creatures: 33

4x Wretched Ghoul
3x Neophyte Lich
4x Lamasu
3x Vampire Knight
3x Plague Ghoul
3x Untamed Wraith
1x Undead Minotaur
2x Fate Spinner
2x Arch Lich
2x Soul-Consuming Lich
4x Decay Spitter
1x Atropos, Weaver of the Dead
1x Damran, the Tainted

Spells: 17

2x Mass Regeneration - All friendly creatures get +1 Regeneration
2x Death Seal - Next combat damage kills target creature regardless of health
4x Soul Reaver - Kills target creature regardless of health
2x Shadow Image - Creates a copy of target creature that dies on first hit, but comes onto the field with quick attack
1x Silent Death - Kills target creature at the start of your next turn then returns to you hand
4x Puppet Master - Takes control of target creature as long as you have a valid place to put it on your side
2x Curse of the Netherworld - Does 3 damage to all enemy creatures and heals your creatures for 3.

Buildings: 1

1x Tower of the Gardener

If the mood strikes me, I'll sometimes take Death Seal out, drop a Shadow Image, and replace them with 3x Insect Swarms.

Nis
Feb 21, 2011

:allears:
Having a lot more success at low ELO with Phrias. Abusing his ability (grant sweep to creatures for 2 actions) is so fun, especially with the attack anywhere stuff :D

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
Sanctuary is fun :3

What set should I be collecting to get more of 'em? Void rising or?

Protagoras
May 9, 2010

gannyGrabber posted:

Sanctuary is fun :3

What set should I be collecting to get more of 'em? Void rising or?

Yes, VR has most of the cards you will want.

RedApe98
Mar 17, 2009




Arrrthritis posted:

Hey dudes, just started playing this game a couple of days ago (Uplay name is Arrrthritis) and it's been a blast playing Necropolis. I feel like i'm absolute poo poo when it comes to building a deck, though. Are there any guides out there for the absolute basics on how to deck build for this game? Any particular spells I should be looking for when playing Necropolis?

I kind of want to get a spooky ghosts deck going where I have a ridiculous frontline of beefy ghosts and kind of turn every battle into a war of attrition, but I dunno how viable that is.

Fleshbane is one of my favorite heroes, that +1 hp he gives to all ghosts is huge! The spells Weakness, Moonsilk Fetters,and Wither(from 5 Tower pack) cripple the enemy creatures so they can do even less damage when attacking and retaliating, they are really effective vs melee Inferno and Stronghold. The event Hailstorm is also great since ghosts take zero damage from it. As long as you have 4 Decay Spitters, a couple Banshees and Atropos cards you should be golden.

IGN is Nefestus if anyone wants to get the friends achievements or just duel.

DangerDongs
Nov 7, 2010

Grimey Drawer
How long after the last expansion did it take them to put a special out?

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
Well swiss is just brutal. Necro rush deck, Inferno rush decks, and that's about it

DangerDongs
Nov 7, 2010

Grimey Drawer
I keep losing in the final round and playing 3rd in swiss

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

gannyGrabber posted:

Well swiss is just brutal. Necro rush deck, Inferno rush decks, and that's about it

It's a huge crapshoot. I've been in Swisses with 6 crag hacks, and others with all garbage that I stomped easily.

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax

JoshTheStampede posted:

It's a huge crapshoot. I've been in Swisses with 6 crag hacks, and others with all garbage that I stomped easily.

I still managed to go 2-1. Just waiting to see if I get to be 3rd place or not... Do I want to have more, or less break points than the other guy?

E: Woot! 3rd place, got my achievement!

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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

gannyGrabber posted:

I still managed to go 2-1. Just waiting to see if I get to be 3rd place or not... Do I want to have more, or less break points than the other guy?

More. Break points are the combined records of your opponents, so the better they did the higher you rank.

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