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It's a shame that Square is too lazy to touch up the low res backgrounds, because they look real awful at the PS1s native resolution. The artwork itself looks pretty good.
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I already managed to get the old soundfont mod (samuel sleight's ff8 dls) that makes the midi sound almost the same as the PS1 version to work. Since the original download is offline here's an easy to use version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/dnfuhoxnbao3991/dmusic.rar Just rename the dmusic folder (to keep as a backup) and put the one in the RAR in it's place.
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Dec 9, 2013 19:14
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I really hope either Square or fans release a patch to put the original music in, because while I couldn't give two fucks about (any game's) story, I really do enjoy FF8's battle system, visuals, and soundtrack. A touch-up of the prerendered backgrounds would be incredible, but that's probably asking a bit much.
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Dec 9, 2013 19:16
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Anonymous Robot posted:I really hope either Square or fans release a patch to put the original music in, because while I couldn't give two fucks about (any game's) story, I really do enjoy FF8's battle system, visuals, and soundtrack. A touch-up of the prerendered backgrounds would be incredible, but that's probably asking a bit much. FFVIII has some really good tracks in it even if The Oath is ruined almost entirely by its bridge. God I hate that bridge.
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Dec 9, 2013 19:24
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I think the action themes are a real strong point in FFVIII's music, the more ambient ones, not so much. The Oath just sounds like a bad prototype for the play's music in IX.
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Dec 9, 2013 19:35
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Man With the Machine Gun is a fantastic track and I will brook no argument. Somebody at SE had to know that music was the main draw because there is that completely incomprehensible set up a stage show and pick the instruments then look at a porno sequence.
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Dec 9, 2013 19:37
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I'll admit that I'm a fan of Love Grows. Although I do agree that VIII's strength was in the "bigger" pieces. Like NORG's theme. I'll never get why NORG of all people has this kind of villain tune but gently caress, it's one reason why I think NORG is such a memorable part of VIII. So I guess I can't fault their decision to give it to him. As for replacing the music, I used a mod called Roses and Wine. (this is a demo video with a link to the mod but the forum is down at the moment. It should be back soon)
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Dec 9, 2013 19:59
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It's been forever since I played this, is it actually possible to do the times trigger press with anyone besides Squall? I was 17 or so the last time I played this so I have no idea.
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Dec 9, 2013 20:13
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1st AD posted:It's been forever since I played this, is it actually possible to do the times trigger press with anyone besides Squall? I was 17 or so the last time I played this so I have no idea. It's a function of the gunblade, so no, unless Seifer can do it but that hardly matters.
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Dec 9, 2013 20:16
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Only Squall and Seifer, because they're the only two that use gunblades. The button trigger is just that: actually firing the gun part rather than just slashing.
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For some reason as a kid I thought it worked like Mario RPG (now there's a game that needs a mobile release)
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NikkolasKing posted:I'll admit that I'm a fan of Love Grows. Although I do agree that VIII's strength was in the "bigger" pieces. Like NORG's theme. I'll never get why NORG of all people has this kind of villain tune but gently caress, it's one reason why I think NORG is such a memorable part of VIII. So I guess I can't fault their decision to give it to him. NORG is just such an arbitrary villain. Like I can not explain to you why he exists or why it matters that he does.
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Dec 9, 2013 20:30
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Barudak posted:NORG is just such an arbitrary villain. Like I can not explain to you why he exists or why it matters that he does. They needed someone to be responsible for a high school civil war and to take all the blame for the fact the Garden is a really hosed up place, I guess.
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It really is a terrible place, when you think about it. All the characters are child soldiers.
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Nihilarian posted:It really is a terrible place, when you think about it. All the characters are child soldiers. Whose most elite members undergo long term memory erasing procedures until literally their whole lives are their training and garden experiences. Its a neat conceit but like Time Kompression nothing is done with it.
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Dec 9, 2013 21:03
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1st AD posted:It's a shame that Square is too lazy to touch up the low res backgrounds, because they look real awful at the PS1s native resolution. The artwork itself looks pretty good. There's a 100% chance Square no longer has access to the resources that would allow them to re-render the backgrounds at a higher resolution.
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Barudak posted:NORG is just such an arbitrary villain. Like I can not explain to you why he exists or why it matters that he does. Like others have said, they just needed someone to explain why Garden is such a terrible place. Although, really, the fact Cid trusted this guy mens Cid is at least responsible for a lot of this poo poo due to pure, unadulterated idiocy. But yeah, NRRG always stands out to me simply due to the WTF nature of his character. He's a one scene wonder and a distraction from the "main plot" of this terrible game. I welcomed that.
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bobservo posted:There's a 100% chance Square no longer has access to the resources that would allow them to re-render the backgrounds at a higher resolution. So you're saying that much like everyone that plays it, Square washed their hands of FFVIII as soon as they were done.
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bobservo posted:There's a 100% chance Square no longer has access to the resources that would allow them to re-render the backgrounds at a higher resolution. I'm still amazed that video game companies did, or still do this.  I know it was down to either space reasons, or simply not thinking they'll ever need to the data again, but still... VIII has some of the best individual ideas that would make for decent scenarios (flying mercenary schools, time-travelling witch who wants to compress time into a singularity, some soldiers who are trying to take down an evil despot sorceress), and turns it into an utter disappointing mismash, with a large dollop of "This is the most Forced Romance since before Star Wars Attack of the Clones". Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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Pesky Splinter posted:I'm still amazed that video game companies did, or still do this. After Spirits Within nobody will ever want to play with Squall again anyway; delete these files so we can save more of Aki Ross's skin textures.
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It's not like the game even has crazy detail in the models and textures, it's just a bunch of low poly poo poo rendered on top of gorgeous paintings. How much space does a bunch of bitmaps really take?
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Barudak posted:After Spirits Within nobody will ever want to play with Squall again anyway; delete these files so we can save more of Aki Ross's skin textures. Why are people so mean to Maxim's   Or Zombie beefcake:  loving hell Square, why were these even things?
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ImpAtom posted:Because the rest of the world doesn't have Espers! Even if they did pick up on it, how do they plan to power it? FF6 did explain it! It's the central premise of the plot. "The Empire has Espers, nobody else does." Let's not forget that during all those years of draining the Espers they are keeping them alive, barely, and never find out that dead Esper = Magicite = far more effective method of gaining magic powers until they see it happen during your infiltration. Defiance Industries posted:I think the fact that Square hasn't really revisited FF6 is part of the reason I still like it so much. FF6 ended in a pretty solid "this poo poo's over  kind of way too. A FF6:TAY would have to either retcon the ending of FF6 or it'd be a post-magic world rebuilding incident, but there's no military power to cause problems then either. The strongest empire at that point is Figaro and Edgar/Sabin going evil would be a biggest pile of poo poo than FF4:TAY's insanity.Oh god, they're going to do it. 
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Pesky Splinter posted:Why are people so mean to Maxim's 2001 was a wild time when we were all starry eyed and ready for a future where the 1980s fashion lived on forever in Bikini bottoms. I really want SE to put Aki Ross in more poo poo but my guess is they deleted all those files when whatever pervert Toriyama replaced got fired.
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It probably got deleted when they lost a bajillion dollars and had to close down their Hawaii office and sell their SGI hardware for pocket change.
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Dross posted:So you're saying that much like everyone that plays it, Square washed their hands of FFVIII as soon as they were done. Basically no Japanese developer outside of Falcom and maybe From know what source management or archiving are. For example, unless Devil Summoner 1 is totally remade, we'll never see it in English because the source code is just gone. The PSP port was a Saturn emulator of all things.
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I gotta wonder, is the only reason they're using Final Fantasy Dimensions as a base for all these remakes because Matrix still has all their poo poo on hand and they can just script the engine to do whatever?
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Isn't that why FF3 never got a remake in the vein of FF1 and 2? I've heard they lost the source info on it, which meant it never got a remake until they finally did the terrible 3D one.
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1st AD posted:I gotta wonder, is the only reason they're using Final Fantasy Dimensions as a base for all these remakes because Matrix still has all their poo poo on hand and they can just script the engine to do whatever? This would be my honest guess. Matrix built an engine that they can use over and over again and thats what they're doing. Now Give me FFV-3: Dimensions II: The Legend of Boko's Gold
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Final Fantasy VI-3: Les Miserables Don't tell me you don't want this.
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Barudak posted:I really want SE to put Aki Ross in more poo poo but my guess is they deleted all those files when whatever pervert Toriyama replaced got fired. They actually wanted her to become the world's first digital actress IIRC - reusing the same model for whatever poo poo they had in the pipeline. (Countdown to Lightning being used in the same way  )I don't think SE wants to be reminded of Spirits Within in any shape or form. It nearly bankrupted Square, Enix very nearly cancelled their merger, and it unleashed something far far worse onto the world... The horror of the first Final Fantasy sequel  Mega64 posted:Isn't that why FF3 never got a remake in the vein of FF1 and 2? I've heard they lost the source info on it, which meant it never got a remake until they finally did the terrible 3D one. It was probably more due to the fact that FF1 and 2 were remade for the Wonderswan, and then ported to GBA, reusing the art assets. Same for IV, V and VI - SNES to PS1 to GBA reusing the same assets. They probably figured if they were going to remake 3, they might as well do it 3d, maybe? Test the waters for IVDS? I'm just speculating here. [e]: Yeah, I know, it was fun to play in parts (battle system, few of the mingames), but the story...well, we all know. I liked it enough. VVV Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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1st AD posted:It's a shame that Square is too lazy to touch up the low res backgrounds, because they look real awful at the PS1s native resolution. The artwork itself looks pretty good. Yeah. I compare it to the enhanced editions of Baldur's Gate where they rescanned the artwork and it looks great (shame they couldn't do the character models but they didn't have access to high res assets.) EDIT: /\ X-2 was really fun gameplay wise. It's a shame the plot was so terrible (what of it there was.)
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1st AD posted:Final Fantasy VI-3: Les Miserables Get the cast of FFVIII to do it as their Senior Year Garden Show play. Make the whole game about junctioning the right magic to get characters into their roles and quests are about recruiting actors or making them confident enough to play their part. Pesky Splinter posted:They actually wanted her to become the world's first digital actress IIRC - reusing the same model for whatever poo poo they had in the pipeline. (Countdown to Lightning being used in the same way I know, thats why I want her to show up. Although given how SE works despite how much data they took in advanced to make sure they wouldn't have to re-render her in the future for years it'll turn out she's basically a low poly NPC now. And FFX-2 is drat good game. If all FF sequels were that caliber nobody would care.
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Pesky Splinter posted:They actually wanted her to become the world's first digital actress IIRC - reusing the same model for whatever poo poo they had in the pipeline. Funny, considering that Warp had already done that with Laura, and there was some other Japanese digital actress that already existed, too.
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Barudak posted:And FFX-2 is drat good game. If all FF sequels were that caliber nobody would care. I, too, would like to see my serious melodramas about the nature of life, death and sacrifice be followed up by Charlie's Angels meets Josie and the Pussycats with magic.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:I, too, would like to see my serious melodramas about the nature of life, death and sacrifice be followed up by Charlie's Angels meets Josie and the Pussycats with magic. Sounds like somebody hasn't had their life changed by hearing the latest track from Lady Yuna and the Guardians.
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kirbysuperstar posted:Funny, considering that Warp had already done that with Laura, and there was some other Japanese digital actress that already existed, too. Huh, didn't know that. I do remember Square making a really big thing of it either way.
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Pesky Splinter posted:It was probably more due to the fact that FF1 and 2 were remade for the Wonderswan, and then ported to GBA, reusing the art assets. Same for IV, V and VI - SNES to PS1 to GBA reusing the same assets. They probably figured if they were going to remake 3, they might as well do it 3d, maybe? Test the waters for IVDS? I'm just speculating here. Final Fantasy III was actually in development for the Wonderswan Color, and there are a few screenshots of it.    There's an article on it here.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:I, too, would like to see my serious melodramas about the nature of life, death and sacrifice be followed up by Charlie's Angels meets Josie and the Pussycats with magic. Yes. That's what should always happen. Characters being allowed to be happy and go on fun adventures after the turgid melodrama of the average JRPG would be so goddamn nice. The idea that this could be a bad thing is mind-boggling.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:I, too, would like to see my serious melodramas about the nature of life, death and sacrifice be followed up by Charlie's Angels meets Josie and the Pussycats with magic. Same here! I love Charlie's Angels. Seriously though, the music stuff came out of nowhere, and the severe tonal shift was grating, but gameplay wise it was fantastic, probably the best Final Fantasy game on the PS2.
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