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ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

Hobojim posted:

For my Haven deck using Cassandra, I built around the Eleanore, the Voice of Harmony. I have three ways to tutor her up if needed, and she seems pretty hard to deal with aside from Lightning Bolt or something. I also have a couple of ways to bring her back from the graveyard. I've only played with the deck twice, but it's decently creature-light with controlling spells. What are some good Haven control staples?

For my Stronghold deck, it's just an aggro creature deck with some Lightning Bolts. It has some good enrage creatures, which utterly destroyed my last opponent but hasn't been helping me a ton. The best things I've found with it are Swift creatures and harpies and archers that can attack anywhere. Raging Cyclops, Enraged Smasher and Blackskull Crusher have done a lot of work for me too, but I've only got one of each. Any suggestions for Stronghold Aggro?

One more question. I was playing against a guy who played a building that said "Creatures at this building gain Cripple 1" and I have no idea what any of that means. It didn't seem to do anything. Can anybody explain?

Sorry for all of the words.

Good Haven staples include Wolf Captains and more Wolf Captains. An Eleanore deck would usually want tough creatures that she can heal turn after turn, so things like Glories and Crusader Commanders. Immaculate Glories are a bit more of a riskier drop, but they can't be taken out with Soulreaver, so they're a decent shield for her. Anael is also a nice card.

What Hero are you using with Stronghold? I'm presuming Kat since she's the most common one for most starting Stronghold decks, and you'd readjust accordingly if you were using Shaar or Kelthor.

You have to decide which way you want to focus on with Stronghold really. An Enrage deck would like Blackskull Warchanters (a Common from Void Rising). Swift decks want more offense power so they can make the most of their mobility. Blackskull Vulture Riders are generally useful and Tainted Orcs are always handy. If you're insistent on using Swift you might want to look at Zeliria (an Epic from Forgotten Wars) or look at the Zardoc Hero, but he's an expensive deck to build.

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Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

WYA posted:

Man. I bought the 3k seal box and it's not subject to the +50% wild card thing. Should I ask support maybe for some? Because that seems unfair


Despite that it was super exciting unpacking 30 packs :) :)

I'm hooked on this game

Yeah, definitely send a ticket for support.

Sega 32X
Jan 3, 2004


In the ad for it in the Shop, it just shows boxes for Five Towers, Forgotten Wars, Herald of the Void, and Void Rising.

If it turns out that the bonus is just for the individual set boxes rather than the 3K Champion box, what do people suggest I spend my 2000 seals on?

sedaps
Jan 29, 2004
Oh man, I just spent 2800 seals the last couple days... such regret, and didn't really get many cards I want form the boxes either.

Are the Forgotten Wars cards going to cost less Wild Cards now that the new expansion is out? Still seeing them as 3 times and I want my Forked Lightnings.

MOVIE MAJICK
Jan 4, 2012

by Pragmatica

Tae posted:

Yeah, definitely send a ticket for support.

Do I do this through the ubisoft website somewhere?

Arrrthritis
May 31, 2007

I don't care if you're a star, the moon, or the whole damn sky, you need to come back down to earth and remember where you came from

ApplesandOranges posted:

Anchored also stops Puppet Master and Enthrall, which is a nice bonus.

Most Sanctuary decks don't run any Flyers, which isn't the easiest thing to exploit but it's there.

Are you telling me that the fish people's greatest weakness is a gigantic tsunami?

Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"
For those that need to contact support: https://support.ubi.com/en-GB/AskQuestion.aspx

You'll need to "ask a question," select PC as the platform, then MMDOC as the game.

Later tonight I'm going to submit at ticket regarding asking for retroactive WC due to their 50% bonus deal they just came out with.

Fluffdaddy
Jan 3, 2009

I am in a game right now with a dude who is letting the 30 second timer run down every game. I just don't get the point...

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Finally blew some WCs on an Adar Malik and put that deck together. Even through I only have 1 Banshee and 2 Fireballs, it's still absolutely destroying the creature based matches. But it's pretty slow on RL time to win each game.

I should be unlocking VR in the alter, Crag Hack from game wins and getting enough seals for a 5T box all in the next day. That will set me up with the cards and WCs to build Ishuma and Crag at about the same time. Not quite Level 35, playing for a month and being able to put together a few T1 decks without spending anything feels pretty good.

bengy81
May 8, 2010
Crag Hack :stare:

Hobojim
Oct 31, 2011


ApplesandOranges posted:

Good Haven staples include Wolf Captains and more Wolf Captains. An Eleanore deck would usually want tough creatures that she can heal turn after turn, so things like Glories and Crusader Commanders. Immaculate Glories are a bit more of a riskier drop, but they can't be taken out with Soulreaver, so they're a decent shield for her. Anael is also a nice card.

What Hero are you using with Stronghold? I'm presuming Kat since she's the most common one for most starting Stronghold decks, and you'd readjust accordingly if you were using Shaar or Kelthor.

You have to decide which way you want to focus on with Stronghold really. An Enrage deck would like Blackskull Warchanters (a Common from Void Rising). Swift decks want more offense power so they can make the most of their mobility. Blackskull Vulture Riders are generally useful and Tainted Orcs are always handy. If you're insistent on using Swift you might want to look at Zeliria (an Epic from Forgotten Wars) or look at the Zardoc Hero, but he's an expensive deck to build.

Yeah, sorry, using Kat. I only have the base set unlocked in the altar, but I've been working on Herald of the Void, I think I'm about half-way there. As I said, still pretty new. It seems to be a lot of fun, though.

Thanks a lot for the info!

Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"
I love logging in and seeing 17 goons on. We're starting to seriously represent!

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
I keep forgetting to post this. My in-game name is Shnucka. Please be gentle with me.

Lord Humongus
Apr 10, 2009

ice ice baby :toot:
My in game name is MMCardBot if anyone wants to teach me to play better.

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

Tae posted:

Swiss wasn't working so their solution was switching to jackpot to prevent a billion reports about swiss connection losses.
I just won my first swiss today without any connection issues. My shamless netdeck-ishuma list is doing pretty well, currently working on unlocking forgotten war in the altar so I can get the last non-epics for the deck. My ingame name is Sarmhal if anyone wants to shoot me a line/ teach me to not be bad. In other news, Adar-Malik seems to be the new hotness, I think I've faced him in more than half my games in the last few days.

El_Pato
Dec 27, 2007
Is there a reason my normal ranked matches are all suddenly way above my elo? I'm around 800 and I just faced two 1100+ people in a row.

(and why do they keep surrendering before I can land the killing blow? :black101: )

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



El_Pato posted:

Is there a reason my normal ranked matches are all suddenly way above my elo? I'm around 800 and I just faced two 1100+ people in a row.

(and why do they keep surrendering before I can land the killing blow? :black101: )

I think the ranked match finder increases the elo spread the longer the wait time is, so one of you was probably waiting for a bit before getting a game.

Hobojim
Oct 31, 2011


El_Pato posted:

Is there a reason my normal ranked matches are all suddenly way above my elo? I'm around 800 and I just faced two 1100+ people in a row.

(and why do they keep surrendering before I can land the killing blow? :black101: )

I've had the vast majority of my matches end with them surrendering. Some of the time I feel like I'm losing and the screen will go black and it'll say I won. It kind of takes the fun out of winning a little. :(

Edit: Including some guy who quit after I hit him once. For 2 damage. Granted I had just killed all of his creatures, but still. I didn't know what happened because it just popped up with a couple of achievements, then said I won. (Achievements were for hitting with only one creature type and winning with only neutral creatures. Makes sense.)

Hobojim fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Dec 11, 2013

bengy81
May 8, 2010
Need some ideas on where to go with my deck, I am sitting between 700-800 on any given day. Have FW, base set and HV unlocked, and kind of working on VR right now. Biggest problem is that I pretty much am out of WC's, I don't mind spending money, but I would rather do it on a weekly special or something.

Hero:
Seria

Events:
4x Week of Taxes
2x Rise of Nethermancer
2x Celebrations

Creatures: 31
4x Wretched Ghoul
2x Magic Peddler
2x Neophyte Lych
2x Hangman Tree
3x Pao Deathseeker
4x Plague Zombie
4x Untamed Wraith
3x Archlich
2x Dark Wood Hermit
3x Decay Spitter
1x Atropos

Spells: 19
2x Weakness
4x Geyser
2x Death Seal
2x Cursed Chains
2x Cursed Bound
3x Soul Reaver
2x Shadow Image
1x The Silent Death
1x Strength of the Sea

Already thinking I might need to drop two Week of Taxes for 2 more Rise of Nethermancer.

I get completely murdered by creature rush and mill decks. Any ideas?

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



bengy81 posted:

Need some ideas on where to go with my deck, I am sitting between 700-800 on any given day. Have FW, base set and HV unlocked, and kind of working on VR right now. Biggest problem is that I pretty much am out of WC's, I don't mind spending money, but I would rather do it on a weekly special or something.


Already thinking I might need to drop two Week of Taxes for 2 more Rise of Nethermancer.

I get completely murdered by creature rush and mill decks. Any ideas?

The first things is figure out what the hell you're trying to do. You're playing 1 drops like you want to be aggro, but you're also playing Hangman Tree like you want to be in a control role. The Plague Zombie + Deepwoods "combo" has you playing two creatures that are just worse than your other options. 3 drops of Vampire Knight, Lamasu and Skeleton Archer interact better overall. And the 4 drops of Plague Spitter, Soul-Consuming Lich, and Archlich are all beasts.

If you want to play the aggro role, you'll probably want to play DAs while dropping the less aggro oriented cards, like the conditional and crappy removal. And playing about 6 total 4 drop creatures.

For a more control build, cut the 1 drops, play more 3 drops that can trade or beat the inferno beaters, play the three 4-drops I listed above in some combination.

For any version, cut Celebrations and play 4 Neophyte Liches. (And 4 Plague Spitters)

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
I should stop playing jackpot because it just has the highest concentration of stall or I'm just that unlucky to face it 3 games in a row.

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Also consider switching heroes up if you have them. I don't care for Seria's spell selection, whereas other heroes have access to better schools. Ariana has earth which is great for anti-rush because of Earthquake and Insect Swarm, Adar-Malik has fire which is great all around. Definitely get to 4 decay spitters, and get some soul-consuming liches because they're great. Four Soul Reavers also helps, and Void Ripple is nice for all-around removal although I only run one along with a Curse of the Netherworld. Puppet Master is great for most every Necro hero that can run it as well.

E: I also run 4 Shadow Image because they essentially turn into Paos 5-8 bit I might cut that down to 2.

Bussamove fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Dec 11, 2013

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe
Wish there was some way to post your entire card collection online. In any case, I'm going to swallow my pride and post my Sandalphon deck. It got me to nearly 1000 ELO then I faced a series of humiliating defeats to various decks and really, really poor draws (something like 5 games in a row where I couldn't get a Tithe Collector with a mulligan and I never drew my board clear combo) and now I'm back at 500 ELO.

Any advice would be appreciated, I'm not sure where to go with it. My thought was to put in tougher, stallier creatures like Darkwood tree guys. Monsoon is obviously one of the first things to go when I get something better, and I'm not 100% on the Immaculate Glories, though they have been incredibly helpful anchor units in games against the counter-based undead decks. I'd put in more Week of Taxes if I had them.

Generally, if you see less than the max of a really good card like the Dark Assassin or Warrior Seraph, just assume I don't have any more. I've used most of my wild cards on the Light unique spell, the Water unique spell, and the single Dark Assassin there. I think I only have 3 left at this point.

I feel like I just need stronger creatures in general to crank this deck up a notch. When it works, it works beautifully - I went on a 15-win streak right before my massive downturn, and I placed third in a swiss today.

Sandalphon, Lord of Power

1x Week of Taxes
2x Week of Knowledge (has helped in my recent, numerous terrible first turn draws)
1x Market of Shadows
2x Week of Training
1x Day of the Fallen Wolf
1x Market of Wonders

3x Tithe Collector
1x Dark Assassin
1x Wandering Bard
1x Helexian Librarian
2x Magic Peddler
1x Loyal Griffin
2x Holy Praetorian
3x Crusader Watchman
1x Pao Deathseeker
4x Radiant Glory
3x Wolf Marksman
1x Griffin Battle Priest
1x Warrior Seraph
1x Vestal
1x Wolf Praetorian
1x Angel of Mercy (not sure I like)
2x Chosen of Elrath (thinking of putting in more of these)
1x Eleonore, Voice of Harmony
2x Immaculate Glory
1x Scattershot Marksman (love this guy)
1x Blazing Glory

2x Ice Shell
1x Monsoon
1x Lightning Speed
1x Geyser
2x Lightning Strike
2x Ice Splinters
3x Lightning Bolt
1x Song of the Lost

2x Revised Tactics
1x Altar of Wishes

Fluffdaddy
Jan 3, 2009

Hmm, just got this email from support:


quote:

Hello fluffdaddy10,

Thank you for contacting Might and Magic: Duel of Champions support. I am sorry about the inconvenient timing of this event. Unfortunately, the development and marketing team made the decision to not make this sale retroactive, it only applies to purchases made from the start of the sale to onward. I will pass feedback on to the marketing team about this situation. Please let us know if you have any other questions or issues.

Sincerely,

[GM]MilkDrop
Might and Magic: Duel of Champions Support

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe

Fluffdaddy posted:

Hmm, just got this email from support:

Yeah, I got the same thing. drat shame.

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Well that's a shame. Considering the expansion only dropped a couple days ago you'd think it would be a no-brainer to make it retroactive. What a poor PR decision on their part.

Attestant
Oct 23, 2012

Don't judge me.
I bought a Five Towers box literally few hours before the deal. I am not entirely pleased.

Arrrthritis
May 31, 2007

I don't care if you're a star, the moon, or the whole damn sky, you need to come back down to earth and remember where you came from
Structures are pretty drat ridiculous. Why yes, I would like to give my cripple 2 spider Infect 3 and Regen 2. I can guarantee no good units are going into that lane.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
Yeah, the Infect 3 tower is really good, even outside of Necropolis. The others I'm not so sure about.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
War Tent is pretty good, I've seen a lot of Kelthor decks use it to great effect.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
I almost edited my post to say the only other building that I've seen be effective is War Tent.

Lasagna Pilot
Feb 6, 2009

No, you're dark-side intergalactic encyclopedia salesmen. Unfortunately, the home office hasn't been quite upfront with you.

Dahbadu posted:

After testing my Inferno homebrew against Mecha's Adar last night, I'm running 12 hate cards in my deck specifically against Adar (well, 5 against graveyard recursion and 6 against single-target), not counting my 4 discard solutions. When I ran into Adar in ranked after testing, I almost won both games, but he just always seemed to top-deck a solution to keep himself alive and win. Or I got unlucky with my Events.


I don't know if Adar is OP so much as there is more aggro in the meta than Mill and Discard, and Adar just has an answer to everything that an aggro wants to throw at him. When I play Adar there always seems to be the removal I need or some cheap wall creature that will stall until I get it.

I have a Dhamiria too and Adar seems to be easier to play and outclass it.

Moonshine Rhyme
Mar 26, 2010

Hate Hate Hate Hate Hate
Obviously you guys just aren't believing enough in the heart of the cards.

Attestant
Oct 23, 2012

Don't judge me.
I met my first 1001+ ELO Adar last evening, and just barely managed to squeak out a win with my Gazal control deck. The game ended with with me at 1 health, 4 cards left in the library, and me killing him by stealing a Decay Spitter with his own Puppet Master, and taking triple turns via Time Jump.



I like this game. :science:

retro sexual
Mar 14, 2005

Bussamove posted:

Also consider switching heroes up if you have them. I don't care for Seria's spell selection, whereas other heroes have access to better schools. Ariana has earth which is great for anti-rush because of Earthquake and Insect Swarm, Adar-Malik has fire which is great all around. Definitely get to 4 decay spitters, and get some soul-consuming liches because they're great. Four Soul Reavers also helps, and Void Ripple is nice for all-around removal although I only run one along with a Curse of the Netherworld. Puppet Master is great for most every Necro hero that can run it as well.

E: I also run 4 Shadow Image because they essentially turn into Paos 5-8 bit I might cut that down to 2.

Thanks for the info. Only started two days ago and spent my initial seals pile on a herald of the void box. My starter deck is necropolis so trying to make that deck better. I have two epics 'Atropos, Weaver of the Dead' which is nice and 'Namtaru Channeler' which I'm not playing because of the high magic requirement (and lack of ongoing spells).

So what cards would you recommend spending wildcard tokens on? Those useful uncommons you mention above (I have a few but not full sets)? More rare cards?

And if I want to make a sanctuary or haven deck, how should I get the correct hero? Buy one of those decks for gold?

also ingame name is lobo_ie if anyone wants to add me

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
The general idea is to spend wildcards on rares and epics. If you really want to use them on uncommons, nothing stopping you.

For Sanctuary, Void Rising packs are your best bet, since you'll get lots of other cards in the meantime and there are no other Heroes from other Factions.

For Haven, there are more of them in the Base set. You can buy Heroic packs for a 1/4 chance of getting a Haven Hero, or Reinforcement packs, which have a lower chance but you'll get 4 more cards.

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
Did we ever hear back about whether the champion box has increased wildcards?

Futuresight
Oct 11, 2012

IT'S ALL TURNED TO SHIT!
Well I finally did it. After tournaments jumped my rating up to 1180 and I went down to 1030 in 2 days of play I decided it's time to loving correct this lovely ELO and conceded games to below 1000. Now maybe I'll have games that aren't 177 year slog-fests that I lost on the third turn.

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

Higsian posted:

Well I finally did it. After tournaments jumped my rating up to 1180 and I went down to 1030 in 2 days of play I decided it's time to loving correct this lovely ELO and conceded games to below 1000. Now maybe I'll have games that aren't 177 year slog-fests that I lost on the third turn.

Yeah and then you'll win those games and be back at 1000+ where you started. Manipulating Elo makes no sense.

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WarEternal
Dec 26, 2010

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

JoshTheStampede posted:

Yeah and then you'll win those games and be back at 1000+ where you started. Manipulating Elo makes no sense.

It wouldn't make sense if there wasn't a hard stop at 1000, as it is it most certainly does make sense. The people who actually have decks worthy of 1000+ won't ever go lower, but if your deck is just barely decent enough to win 1/10 games at 1000 then you're stuck there forever winning 10% of your games.

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