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This weekends games have almost entirely reshuffled the draft order
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Texans are still #1!
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Dec 16, 2013 10:08
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Intruder posted:Texans are still #1! Woo.  I could see us being obliterated by the Manning-led Broncos but I couldn't tell you how the Titans game will go. I'd really like for Washington to get a random win already so we don't potentially lose out.EDIT: If we hire O'Brien, I'd lean towards grabbing Bridgewater or trading down. If it's Lovie or Ray Horton I'd rather go with Clowney/trade down and grab Barr.
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Dec 16, 2013 10:11
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Raiders went from 7 to 4.
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Dec 16, 2013 10:23
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I'm sorry, but Keenum isn't the answer. The only good quarterback option in free agency I'd be OK with is Jay Cutler and the Bears will almost assuredly resign him. It's becoming more and more clear that Bridgewater is the answer at #1.
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Dec 16, 2013 14:49
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bhsman posted:Woo. I actually think it's the opposite. If you hire Lovie, you need a can't-miss QB like Bridgewater, because Lovie isn't exactly an offensive mind or a great evaluator of talent on that side of the ball. Meanwhile, Watt should be enough to make that defense go, as awesome as Watt/Clowney would be. Honestly, if Lovie goes to Houston and ends up with a halfway-decent OC and Bridgewater, that team could make a lot of noise in a hurry. I could see them being next year's Chiefs.
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Dec 16, 2013 14:57
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Kirios posted:I'm sorry, but Keenum isn't the answer. The only good quarterback option in free agency I'd be OK with is Jay Cutler and the Bears will almost assuredly resign him. It's becoming more and more clear that Bridgewater is the answer at #1. Although it breaks my heart, I agree with you on Keenum. We just need to be careful about picking a QB at #1 overall, and I'm just not sure if Bridgewater's a franchise QB (but IMO he is the best in the draft). I'd be most happy with signing Lovie, signing Cutler, and drafting Clowney, but I'd be just as happy only getting Clowney and rolling with Keenum or free agent journeyman QB here for next season and possibly get a guy like Hundley or Mariotta the next draft.
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Dec 16, 2013 16:41
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Wanvig posted:Although it breaks my heart, I agree with you on Keenum. We just need to be careful about picking a QB at #1 overall, and I'm just not sure if Bridgewater's a franchise QB (but IMO he is the best in the draft). I'd be most happy with signing Lovie, signing Cutler, and drafting Clowney, but I'd be just as happy only getting Clowney and rolling with Keenum or free agent journeyman QB here for next season and possibly get a guy like Hundley or Mariotta the next draft. You can't guarantee the Texans will be picking high enough next year to draft a Hundley or Mariota. In fact, I'd almost argue that there's a greater chance that they'll play themselves out of another top QB. When your team is this bad where they have a chance to get a prospect like Bridgewater...you have to take it.
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Dec 16, 2013 17:01
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Kirios posted:I'm sorry, but Keenum isn't the answer. The only good quarterback option in free agency I'd be OK with is Jay Cutler and the Bears will almost assuredly resign him. It's becoming more and more clear that Bridgewater is the answer at #1. It's all so clear now
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Dec 16, 2013 17:05
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Declan MacManus posted:It's all so clear now I too am certain about who the #1 overall pick should be on 12/16/2013
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Dec 16, 2013 17:09
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it will be johnny football
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Dec 16, 2013 17:10
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Volkerball posted:Raiders went from 7 to 4. C'mon top 3.
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Dec 16, 2013 17:21
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Jaguars play the Titans and Colts; Indy will likely be resting starters, so Jacksonville may actually win 1-2 more games and push themselves out of the top 3.
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Dec 16, 2013 17:44
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Declan MacManus posted:It's all so clear now oh so the Fins get a winning record and you up and forget How It Is when you're thinkin draft starting week 14
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Dec 16, 2013 17:49
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Rap posted:oh so the Fins get a winning record and you up and forget How It Is when you're thinkin draft starting week 14 I read this three times over and had to check the NFL standings to understand this post. I had no idea the Dolphins actually have a winning record. Weren't they bullying people? Aren't bullies supposed to lose in the end??
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Dec 16, 2013 18:23
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Doltos posted:I read this three times over and had to check the NFL standings to understand this post. I had no idea the Dolphins actually have a winning record. Weren't they bullying people? Aren't bullies supposed to lose in the end?? "Evil will always win because good is dumb."
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Dec 16, 2013 18:28
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They did lose that game to Tampa Bay at a time when a Tampa Bay player couldn't go to the bathroom without getting a deadly infection And they lost to Buffalo when the Bills lost EJ Manuel, Kevin Kolb, AND Jeff Tuel, and had to literally start a QB they signed off the street
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Dec 16, 2013 18:31
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Looks like the Titans are gonna get a top ten pick. Awesome.
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Dec 16, 2013 18:34
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Rap posted:oh so the Fins get a winning record and you up and forget How It Is when you're thinkin draft starting week 14 Ain't out of the woods yet I stay humble Doltos posted:I read this three times over and had to check the NFL standings to understand this post. I had no idea the Dolphins actually have a winning record. Weren't they bullying people? Aren't bullies supposed to lose in the end?? Basically the moral of the story is that your actions don't have any real consequences and in the end everything disappears
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Dec 16, 2013 18:35
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If the Texans passed on Clowney, I can't imagine that the Rams would, even if their strong defense and their needs at offense. Dammit Washington why did you have to make that trade 
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Dec 16, 2013 18:36
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Just want to point out to everyone going "But you all have Watt, why would you need Clowney???" that Watt has also been the only pass rush on the team, especially with Cushing out. Coaching may have a part in it as well (I really want to know what effect Reggie Herring is having on our linebackers but our OLBs have SUCKED at getting pressure, and this includes promising college prospects like Brooks Reed and Whitney Mercilus) but in any case that shouldn't preclude us from taking a guy like Clowney or Barr. Strengthening a strength is a viable draft plan.Kirios posted:I'm sorry, but Keenum isn't the answer. You're forgiven.  quote:The only good quarterback option in free agency I'd be OK with is Jay Cutler and the Bears will almost assuredly resign him. It's becoming more and more clear that Bridgewater is the answer at #1. It's becoming more and more clear that we should draft a QB, yes. Just not necessarily at one and then not necessarily Bridgewater. bhsman fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Dec 16, 2013 |
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Dec 16, 2013 18:38
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bhsman posted:You're forgiven. This seems like a reasonable assessment. Just because you need a QB doesn't mean it's the first thing you gotta grab
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Dec 16, 2013 18:40
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Now is the time of year for regrets. For instance, I'm going to be thrilled taking CJ Mosley instead of Barr or Clowney because the Giants just had to rough up Oakland and Washington to save face on the season.
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Dec 16, 2013 18:40
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Stevie Lee posted:Looks like the Titans are gonna get a top ten pick. Awesome. Wait is this
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Dec 16, 2013 18:45
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^^^He was bragging about Kendall Wright doing well against Patrick Peterson in the N/V thread, I think.Declan MacManus posted:This seems like a reasonable assessment. Just because you need a QB doesn't mean it's the first thing you gotta grab In fairness I've started to watch Bridgewater's tape (because I've had a reason to as late as the prospect of drafting him becomes more realistic  ) and he looks legit, it's just a question of whether the team is better-served getting a blue-chip pass rusher to pair with Watt. Passing that up for a very good, not great, QB (he's not even a top 10 prospect for some analysts at this point, or a top 5 at best for others) could be Carr over Peppers all over again.
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Dec 16, 2013 18:45
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One prospect over another ain't worth the pain of seeing the Raiders defeat your team tho
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Dec 16, 2013 18:45
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Rap posted:One prospect over another ain't worth the pain of seeing the Raiders defeat your team tho Putting Clowney on the line might give opposing QBs less time to notice that Brice McCain is our slot CB. Poor McCain; dude was the best slot corner in 2011 and then broke his foot. Now he's basically a surefire TD in the red zone. McGloin noticed as much. 
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Dec 16, 2013 18:53
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Rap posted:One prospect over another ain't worth the pain of seeing the Raiders defeat your team tho Having to endure a bad season after a few mediocre super bowl wins and constant media attention on my huge market team has made me immune to this thing called pain. The horrors, ham, the horrors.
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Dec 16, 2013 19:30
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Doltos posted:Having to endure a bad season after a few mediocre super bowl wins God I had no idea things were so bad. Can I get you some coffee and blankets or something
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Dec 16, 2013 19:55
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TheChirurgeon posted:God I had no idea things were so bad. Can I get you some coffee and blankets or something  sorry I just wanted an excuse to use
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Dec 16, 2013 19:56
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Febreeze posted:
Oh man that's gonna be great for the draft day thread too VVVV thank you
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Dec 16, 2013 19:57
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Doltos posted:Having to endure a bad season after a few mediocre super bowl wins and constant media attention on my huge market team has made me immune to this thing called pain. The horrors, ham, the horrors.  I feel so terrible for your lovely team that won a Superbowl despite its inherent 'negative points differential' shittiness, yeesh.
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Dec 16, 2013 19:58
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seiferguy posted:If the Texans passed on Clowney, I can't imagine that the Rams would, even if their strong defense and their needs at offense. I think it's more likely that they trade down for a billion more picks than take Clowney when they already have Long and Quinn.
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Dec 16, 2013 20:46
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Doltos posted:Having to endure a bad season after a few mediocre super bowl wins Quoting this again to make sure it doesn't disappear from the forums.
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Dec 16, 2013 20:59
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I don't think he was being serious.
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Dec 16, 2013 21:04
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Bigass Moth posted:Quoting this again to make sure it doesn't disappear from the forums. Oh man if inly we had a way of knowing if he's being sarcastic or not
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Dec 16, 2013 21:06
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Kawalimus is the only one who is ever serious when saying yeah winning the Superbowl was nice, but...
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Dec 16, 2013 21:20
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A decade of spectacular failure.
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Dec 16, 2013 21:35
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Oh man if inly we had a way of knowing if he's being sarcastic or not Giants fans really don't deserve the benefit of the doubt when it comes to this
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Dec 16, 2013 21:41
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TheChirurgeon posted:Giants fans really don't deserve the benefit of the doubt when it comes to this All of us? That seems a little unfair
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