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verbal enema
May 23, 2009

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Turra posted:

So the winter noisemakers work again! Last year I had it bound to go off whenever I fire, but is there a way to just have it go off all the time after waiting or something?

Bind the use of it to WASD.

Also I just got out of a match where a Engy was using the SS and it 100% shuts down any and ALL Kritz pushes. Flat out you cannot do anything. Until you say gently caress that guy and just blow his team up instead.

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Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


MeinGott posted:

Bind the use of it to WASD.


bind "mouse1" "+attack; use_action_slot_item"
bind "mouse2" "+attack2; use_action_slot_item"
bind "SHIFT" "use_action_slot_item"
bind "CTRL" "+duck; use_action_slot_item"
bind "ALT" "use_action_slot_item"
bind "TAB "showscores; use_action_slot_item"
bind "space" "+jump; use_action_slot_item"
bind "q" "lastinv; use_action_slot_item"
bind "w" "+forward; use_action_slot_item"
bind "a" "+moveleft; use_action_slot_item"
bind "s" "+back; use_action_slot_item"
bind "d" "+moveright; use_action_slot_item"
bind "e" "voicemenu 0 0; use_action_slot_item"
bind "r" "+reload; use_action_slot_item"
bind "1" "slot1; use_action_slot_item"
bind "2" "slot2; use_action_slot_item"
bind "3" "slot3; use_action_slot_item"
bind "4" "slot4; use_action_slot_item"
bind "5" "slot5; use_action_slot_item"

BlueDestiny
Jun 18, 2011

Mega deal with it

Reiley posted:

I think that's intended, its like a close-range damage stream but outside of that its worthless. I'm sure it's much more balanced on not-2fort pubs.

Rename yourself THOR THE ODINSON and say you're hunting cyclopes. Then kill all demomen.

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


I just got a Delivered Giftapult Package

This package was delivered by Giftapult from a random online stranger. You can open it from your backpack.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/otacon/inventory/#440_2_2173528429

Wacky! Zany! Thanks for the gun, random online stranger!

nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

The Short Circuit seems kind of ridiculous now but part of me wants it to stay that way. That poor thing's been waiting for this kind of limelight for years :sad:

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

The #1 Fan set now has a consistant theme and there's a good reason to use it all in a single set!

Be able to jump everywhere. :getin:

Anthony Chuzzlewit
Oct 26, 2008

good for healthy


Wow, don't uber a soldier if the other team is using the Short Circuit. I just shut one down HARD. I wouldn't even let the poor guy rocket jump :D

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

Otacon posted:

bind "mouse1" "+attack; use_action_slot_item"
bind "mouse2" "+attack2; use_action_slot_item"
bind "SHIFT" "use_action_slot_item"
bind "CTRL" "+duck; use_action_slot_item"
bind "ALT" "use_action_slot_item"
bind "TAB "showscores; use_action_slot_item"
bind "space" "+jump; use_action_slot_item"
bind "q" "lastinv; use_action_slot_item"
bind "w" "+forward; use_action_slot_item"
bind "a" "+moveleft; use_action_slot_item"
bind "s" "+back; use_action_slot_item"
bind "d" "+moveright; use_action_slot_item"
bind "e" "voicemenu 0 0; use_action_slot_item"
bind "r" "+reload; use_action_slot_item"
bind "1" "slot1; use_action_slot_item"
bind "2" "slot2; use_action_slot_item"
bind "3" "slot3; use_action_slot_item"
bind "4" "slot4; use_action_slot_item"
bind "5" "slot5; use_action_slot_item"

My noisemaker thanks you. :shobon:

nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

Dr Pepper posted:

The #1 Fan set now has a consistant theme and there's a good reason to use it all in a single set!

Be able to jump everywhere. :getin:

I want them to add itemset tombstones for everything, especially the #1 Fan set though after these changes.

Magypsy
Apr 2, 2010

People call me Pine! (Pine!)
Eastern Venus Space Police.
If there's slime, (There's slime!)
Involved in a crime, (Bad crime!)
We'll clean them up on the beat! (The beat!)
I just gave the Short Circuit a quick run before work, and it's pretty brutal. If you get the drop on a Demoman or a Soldier without a Shotgun, you can decimate them. They're not fast enough to run away and you're quick enough to stay out of their melee range.

I know that they're trying to make the new festive weapons more distinct this year, but they're really, really gaudy. I feel bad enough about my tacky Ubersaw from last year, but the only one I really like this year is the Wrangler. I'm sure that'll be the most expensive one.

Edit: Oh, the GRU look quite nice, actually! They're very classy in black, like the Ambassador. The Sapper is a bit much, I was hoping for a Red-Tape Recorder that plays cheesey Christmas songs.

Magypsy fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Dec 20, 2013

concerned mom
Apr 22, 2003

by Lowtax
Grimey Drawer
Aw It's such a shame that the TF2VR item says it conflicts with other hats. It's a pair of glasses damnit :argh:

Jusupov
May 24, 2007
only text
Oh tf2 lords, let us join a server for mann up and not this ???? thing all the time.

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


Servers are going up and down more than a fat guy drowning in the ocean. If you want to "play" tf2 (wtf is that?????) you'll be better off trying again later.

Mercury Crusader
Apr 20, 2005

You know they say that all demons are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Pyro Jack and you can see that statement is not true, hee-ho!
Are you a bad enough dude to create a Collector's Festive Flare Gun?

http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Collector%27s%20Festive%20Flare%20Gun%20Chemistry%20Set


Oh, and while the servers were up and the shop was working, I managed to uncrate a strange festive Eyelander. It looks like a plastic toy sword! :allears:

Mercury Crusader fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Dec 20, 2013

QwertySanchez
Jun 19, 2009

a wacky guy
looks like the strange short circuits and anything else short circuit are about to get a lot more valuable.

Anthony Chuzzlewit
Oct 26, 2008

good for healthy


Use the Short Circuit around the cart on payload offense. Free metal from the cart + minis + no-rocket-zone = a huge pain in the rear end for the red team. :allears:

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


If you're parked behind a Lv3 Sentry, standing on your Lv3 Dispenser, can you equip the SC and use tape to hold down M1 and walk away? That's the question.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
The Soda Popper's new feature actually has the potential to make Scout useful in Payload and A/D maps.

I just quad-jumped over a Demoman's sticky bomb trap and shot him in the back. He had no idea how to handle that.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

...
...




The change to the Soda Popper is amazing and serves as an aerial alternative to the BFB at the tradeoff of being what's more or less the crappiest scattergun damage-wise. Well worth it!

BlueDestiny
Jun 18, 2011

Mega deal with it

Yeah, if you've got the Winger out you can get some amazing height and distance. On the wide open maps you can just float over any explosives class no problem :allears:

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007


I love these refurbished items. I wonder if, after a couple rounds of refurbs, they'll be introducing new ones (the easter egg teasers suggest but then there's always the Scout Detail)

miscellaneous14
Mar 27, 2010

neat
I got a non-Strange Festive Jarate and that nice all-class top hat from the crates. At least with the former I'll know someone will be buying them up to make a Collector set, so it's good that they found a use for those other than clogging up the item schema. Afterwards I sent my old Pyromancer Mask off via catapult, and the person who received it had a [Pyroteam] tag in their name, so clearly I did good this Christmas.

Also that Short Circuit spam is viciously loud, holy hell.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Reiley posted:

I love these refurbished items. I wonder if, after a couple rounds of refurbs, they'll be introducing new ones (the easter egg teasers suggest but then there's always the Scout Detail)

The Soda Popper in particular is a completely different weapon now.

I'm thinking of just wiping the kills off the Strange one I have to start fresh.

LAY-ZX
Nov 10, 2009

The Short Circuit buff sounds awful. It basically makes it impossible for Soldiers or Demos, the two classes who are best at breaking sentry nests, to break a sentry nest.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

LAY-ZX posted:

The Short Circuit buff sounds awful. It basically makes it impossible for Soldiers or Demos, the two classes who are best at breaking sentry nests, to break a sentry nest.

Team co-ordination is the best at breaking sentry nests. It'll just be harder for demomen and soldiers to Rambo them down now.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

LAY-ZX posted:

The Short Circuit buff sounds awful. It basically makes it impossible for Soldiers or Demos, the two classes who are best at breaking sentry nests, to break a sentry nest.

This has always been the case though. It's just that it was so terrible as a weapon before that it wasn't worth it either way.

miscellaneous14
Mar 27, 2010

neat
Keep in mind they would have to sub out the Wranger to use it, so it's not really any worse than what you'd be dealing with anyway.

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Also it chews through metal fast, so while it does shut down soldiers, the engie is pretty much only has the advantage for only about ten seconds, and if another class shows up, he screwed.

nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

I feel like the immediate reactions to the Short Circuit are somewhat kneejerky. The big reason the old Short Circuit sucked was because even if you were using it well you couldn't hope to keep up with a Soldier or Demo's firing rate because the thing was just so drat slow. And if an Engineer runs around trying to rambo you with the thing just shotgun him or melee him because he's gotta be in melee range for the thing to damage anyway. You just treat a Short Circuit Engie like a Pyro.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012





Strange Short Circuits just jumped up an entire Ref in worth. :getin:

RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Dec 21, 2013

wootmachine
Aug 28, 2006

HAIL SABAN
If you guys don't want to have to fart around in valve servers, feel free to hang out in mine. 74.91.112.13:27015

Lori
Oct 6, 2011

Fojar38 posted:

Team co-ordination is the best at breaking sentry nests. It'll just be harder for demomen and soldiers to Rambo them down now.

Requiring teamwork to get poo poo done is a great thing to put in a game. Requiring teamwork to take down one person is not fair and shouldn't be a real thing. If you want it to require teamwork to kill a sentry then it should require teamwork to keep one alive, not just a lone engineer tanking the poo poo out of it with cheesy weapons.

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

RareAcumen posted:

Strange Short Circuits just jumped up a whole Ref in worth. :getin:

They don't have strange Short Circuits yet.

Also, there's pretty much no reason for a Blu engie on a Payload map to not run the Short Circuit now. He can just sit on the cart and basically be immune to explosive spam.

Mercury Crusader
Apr 20, 2005

You know they say that all demons are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Pyro Jack and you can see that statement is not true, hee-ho!

RareAcumen posted:

Strange Short Circuits just jumped up a whole Ref in worth. :getin:

I have a feeling Genuines will ramp up in price for a while, then drop off again once folks realize a key for one is a stupid price, kind of like the strange Quick-Fix (though that ended up finding a good middle ground price at 3.33 ref).


I wonder how Soda Popper prices will be affected by the change to it. It's currently at 5 ref because you could just cheese a bunch of easy crit kills to build it up. Now that you actually have to do some fancy maneuvering to get a kill with it, I wonder if people will value it less.

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


Opened 5 Naughty Crates, got 4 festives and 1 Strange Festive Sapper.

Listed the 7 Naughty Crates I had left on the Steam Market - going rate was 11 cents each. After many retries, I finally got them all listed for $.10

Refreshed the Crate page, prices have since jumped to $.25 for each crate.

Whoops!

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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This is where people learn the value of keeping at least one of every weapon, even the lovely ones.

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

Holy poo poo, all three soldier backpacks working in tandem on a hard push will absolutely destroy any defense.

I waa running Backup soldier with a Concheror and Banner soldier and we managed to pull off the backpacks at the same time on Viaduct and we absolutely steamrolled the other team.

Smissmas miracle indeed, Valve. :neckbeard:

miscellaneous14
Mar 27, 2010

neat

Lori posted:

Requiring teamwork to get poo poo done is a great thing to put in a game. Requiring teamwork to take down one person is not fair and shouldn't be a real thing. If you want it to require teamwork to kill a sentry then it should require teamwork to keep one alive, not just a lone engineer tanking the poo poo out of it with cheesy weapons.

There's still a large opportunity cost of time involved in getting a level 3 set up, though. Without the Wrangler shield or Short Circuit projectile clearing stopping you, busting sentries is laughably easy as either explosive class, and both defense options still make the Engineer even more of a sitting duck.

If there are flanking routes in the map (and any good map should have them), then it doesn't require a tremendous amount of effort for a team to send a lone saboteur to stop the Engineer from even getting the chance to set up.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Magypsy posted:

It's the buff nobody was expecting!

Realtalk: This update's not so bad. I might be biased because of all the free tat Valve shoved onto me, and the fact that I got a Purity Fist from a Secret Saxton. :swoon:

Oh my god. It's like a taser-based chainsaw.


The smissmas circuitsaw massacre. :black101:

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Lori posted:

Requiring teamwork to get poo poo done is a great thing to put in a game. Requiring teamwork to take down one person is not fair and shouldn't be a real thing. If you want it to require teamwork to kill a sentry then it should require teamwork to keep one alive, not just a lone engineer tanking the poo poo out of it with cheesy weapons.

It does require teamwork to keep one alive. If I don't have teammates actively helping to defend my stuff then I'll almost never get a full sentry nest built, much less keep it alive against a co-ordinated push.

Plus Engineers typically need to pay attention to a bunch of things in order to maintain the sentry nest, including spy-checking, repairing, watching ammo, keeping metal up, and keeping an eye out for incoming pushes. It's not hard to catch the engineer distracted by something else, and if they have to concentrate entirely on stopping rockets and grenades coming at them then most likely they're also vulnerable to a backstab or headshot, and good luck trying to get rid of rockets and grenades while also keeping your sentry repaired or knocking sappers off of it.

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