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Gygaxian posted:My mom (who is a conservative) tried to point out that the Duck Dynasty guys live in Louisiana, and that Louisiana was less bigoted than the rest of the South, so Phil Robertson might not have seen any obvious discrimination. I... didn't discuss the issue with my mom after that. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that racism is over in Louisiana.
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Kro-Bar posted:Yeah, I'm pretty sure that racism is over in Louisiana. Basically. If anything Louisiana is the most racist.
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vyelkin posted:Yes, he did. For example, I'm seeing this wonderful Jesus image going around my own facebook: It also suffers from the problem of Jesus actually having a lot to say about so-called "sexual immorality."
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Gygaxian posted:My mom (who is a conservative) tried to point out that the Duck Dynasty guys live in Louisiana, and that Louisiana was less bigoted than the rest of the South, so Phil Robertson might not have seen any obvious discrimination. I... didn't discuss the issue with my mom after that. 
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I made something y'all can share to show your support for free speech!
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Gygaxian posted:My mom (who is a conservative) tried to point out that the Duck Dynasty guys live in Louisiana, and that Louisiana was less bigoted than the rest of the South, so Phil Robertson might not have seen any obvious discrimination. I... didn't discuss the issue with my mom after that. Hahaha, yeah, that defense of them doesn't hold a bit of drat water. The Duck Dynasty guys live in North Louisiana, specifically in West Monroe which is an hour from Vicksburg, Mississippi. It's, in fact, a straight shot across the Old Vicksburg Bridge across the River. The culture there is loving identical to white majority towns in Arkansas and Mississippi. Your mom has bought into a half-truth about the South defined by big cities like New Orleans. The half-truth is "Louisiana is less bigoted than the rest of the South." The full truth is "white racists in New Orleans understand they are a local minority and will suffer repercussions if they wear their racism on their sleeve." You go to a smaller, majority white town like West Monroe and I guarantee it will look identical to places like the ones in Mississippi that still had upwards of 25% of the population against the idea of interracial marriage in loving YOOL 2012.
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I live in Jackson MS. Louisiana sucks and there is currently a battle in Baton Rouge where a white community wants to incorporate into their own racially segregated city.
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A (black!) cousin of mine said she wasn't offended by Phil's comments. I replied with this picture, saying, "Yup, life was all songs and roses for black folks in the pre-Civil Rights era down South." Reasons given for black lynchings: Being obnoxious. Demanding respect. Trying to vote. Mistaken identity. 
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The Macaroni posted:Reasons given for black lynchings: Being obnoxious. Demanding respect. Trying to vote. Mistaken identity. Don't forget some of these gems:
Of course anyone who defends the racist south will immediately pick up the reasons like "murder", "child abuse" and "poisoning well" and immediately disregard all those other reasons. Obviously that massive list of lovely reasons that boil down to "because the guy was black" were all outliers that happened once or twice, if at all (LIEBERALS) and a Lynchin' was just how you dealt with a black pedophile, rapist and murderer. Which they all were, or at least waiting for a chance to become. Alkydere fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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My facebook is starting to fill up with "yeah, what he said was bad, but hate never solved anything so frankly anyone who hates him for this is just as bad" comments. Fortunately, all of these are friend-of-a-friend type situations so at least it means I don't have to actually deal with these people!
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Countblanc posted:My facebook is starting to fill up with "yeah, what he said was bad, but hate never solved anything so frankly anyone who hates him for this is just as bad" comments. Fortunately, all of these are friend-of-a-friend type situations so at least it means I don't have to actually deal with these people! Yeah, I mean Paula Dean just said she wanted a plantation wedding, got a slap on the wrist, and is now right back to making donut burgers on national TV.  We're 2/2 on southern TV personalities being racist bigots this year. I don't know how I should feel about that so I'll just go with schadenfreude.
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The Macaroni posted:Reasons given for black lynchings: Being obnoxious. Demanding respect. Trying to vote. Mistaken identity. Where did you find this? I'd love to post it for some of the "it wasn't so bad as everyone says!!" crowd.
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Where is this from? I'm impressed by the editor inserting actual data, and if this was from an actual non-opinion newspaper then I'm going to have to reconsider some of my opinions about the yellow press.
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Alkydere posted:Don't forget some of these gems: Anyone who lists murder or another crime needs a lesson in how the justice system works (hint no mobs based on here-say).
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You can also just indicate that after the emancipation proclamation slavery still existed due to black convicts who were arrested for just being black traded and sold off to farms and private companies to work off their court"debts" indefinitely. See the book: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_by_Another_Name The practice really didn't end until 1945, and that's not even counting the Jim Crow laws on top of that. Black life was completely under siege and still is.
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sonatinas posted:You can also just indicate that after the emancipation proclamation slavery still existed due to black convicts who were arrested for just being black traded and sold off to farms and private companies to work off their court"debts" indefinitely. Eh, those "slaves" didn't know how good they really had it! They should be thankful!
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sonatinas posted:You can also just indicate that after the emancipation proclamation slavery still existed due to black convicts who were arrested for just being black traded and sold off to farms and private companies to work off their court"debts" indefinitely. There was also a really great documentary by the same name on PBS a year or so ago. http://www.pbs.org/tpt/slavery-by-another-name/
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The Duck Dynasty stuff reminds me that these people @4:00ish minutes still exist and long after being gay is "the norm" more people like them will exist  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4-DmzgKb48
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I did like this comment I saw on a friend's post about the situation: These things all happened in the past 24 hours. One of them has some of my fellow Christians really upset. See if you can guess which one: 1. In America alone, thousands of thousands of elderly people sat alone, no contact with the world, feeling disconnected from God and the world. 2. More than a thousand children died of preventable diseases in Syria and other conflict zones. 3. A millionaire with a beard was suspended from a TV show.
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The Macaroni posted:A (black!) cousin of mine said she wasn't offended by Phil's comments. I replied with this picture, saying, "Yup, life was all songs and roses for black folks in the pre-Civil Rights era down South." I can just about 100% guarantee that the number is way too low. I'm not sure where the data originally comes from (not just website, but actual method of research) but even in my limited attempt at documenting lynching in my state a while back, I found that doesn't even scratch the surface. Plus, the cases that did get reported were usually because whites were just so darn proud of themselves for doing it. Lynching was all kinds of sick poo poo. But poverty and race is something a lot of my family doesn't understand. My mother's side of the family were poor, rural farmers. They worked with African-Americans in the field. Yes, they did a lot of the same work, but at the end of the day, the whites were still white. They could go to the front door of any establishment. They went to better schools. No, you never had any indication they were disenchanted with their lot in life because they were at best shunned and at worst dead and their family terrorized. There are still older African-Americans I talk to who are uneasy with talking about their experiences and refuse to say that integration was anything but smooth.
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So a federal judge just struck down Utah's gay marriage ban. My Facebook feed is going get really interesting (I'm a pro-marriage equality Mormon who lives in Utah).
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Twelve by Pies posted:I did like this comment I saw on a friend's post about the situation: 
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My grandmother and mother live in the town in which Duck Dynasty is filmed. I lived in that town for a few months as a boy, and compared to my experiences growing up in the southern part of this glorious state, I was honestly shocked by the sheer amount of in your face racism that happened every loving day up there. Let me repeat for emphasis: as a person living in Louisiana I was shocked by overt racism in that town. And he never saw it? The man's so full of poo poo it's amazing to me. There are still parts of that town where a black person in the wrong neighborhood will be attacked on sight. Edited out potentially personal information. LittlePriest fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Dec 22, 2013 |
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I sometimes wonder why black Mormons couldn't have been more tolerant towards their church's own views that they were cursed and because of that curse unable to become priests. I tell you what, this intolerance is just political correctness gone mad!
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Alkydere posted:"poisoning well" I like very much when American USA! people do the poisoning well! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo
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LittlePriest posted:Let me repeat for emphasis: as a person living in Louisiana I was shocked by overt racism in that town. And he never saw it? The man's so full of poo poo it's amazing to me. There are still parts of that town where a black person in the wrong neighborhood will be attacked on sight. Look, a black person never came up to him and complained that white people will savagely beat them for insolence or a sullen attitude, so obviously it just didn't happen. If black people got lynched for complaining about white people, that's a pretty big deal and I'm sure black people would have complained.
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LittlePriest posted:Let me repeat for emphasis: as a person living in Louisiana I was shocked by overt racism in that town. And he never saw it? The man's so full of poo poo it's amazing to me. There are still parts of that town where a black person in the wrong neighborhood will be attacked on sight. Fish can't see the water. Except in this case it's more the water can't see the water.
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VitalSigns posted:Look, a black person never came up to him and complained that white people will savagely beat them for insolence or a sullen attitude, so obviously it just didn't happen. Mind sharing any stories, if it's not too much of a derail
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JohnClark posted:
That's Paglia's entire schtick: if you even disagree somewhat slightly with her super-libertarian feminism, you're a Stalinist. Or, as Wonkette put it, "well, shut our pretty little gay mouths, because Camille Paglia has spoken and Stonewall libertarian argle bargle suck it libtards".
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Wojtek posted:The Duck Dynasty stuff reminds me that these people @4:00ish minutes still exist and long after being gay is "the norm" more people like them will exist Yeah, piles of those people everywhere. I remember my old man giving me the "don't bring home any surprises" bullshit talk when I went away to college. So those partners never came home with me, or any others for that matter 
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LittlePriest posted:My grandmother and mother live in the town in which Duck Dynasty is filmed. I have a picture on my phone of my Mom and one of the other old bearded dudes sitting on my grandmother's couch.
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Interlude posted:I spent some time in Monroe and it was racist as gently caress. There are quite literally train tracks dividing the white and black sections of the town. After dinner the night I left, the mother of the family I was staying with read to us from a book of old Sambo stories, complete with fake jive accent. But to say black people would be attacked on sight is a stretch. Yeah, it'd be more of a planned attack than just done on sight. That's pretty much all of the cities throughout the Deep South; there are train tracks or a highway that divides the black and white sides of town.
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Wojtek posted:The Duck Dynasty stuff reminds me that these people @4:00ish minutes still exist and long after being gay is "the norm" more people like them will exist They should just rename this show to "white people being loving awful".
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Phone posted:They should just rename this show to "white people being loving awful". While they're at it, A&E can rebrand themselves with a name more fitting of their programming's lack of anything artful or entertaining; like POS!
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Christmas time! And this Christmas everyone gets A true Return to Form for LL101 -  Obamacare!  Uh, okay!  Santa Claus!  Duck Dynasty!  Duck Dynasty!  Santa Claus!
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Sir Rolo posted:Christmas time! And this Christmas everyone gets A true Return to Form for LL101 - In case this needs any clearing up: http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/12/05/obama_s_blackberry_president_not_allowed_to_use_iphone_for_security_reasons.html
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Sir Rolo posted:
I call bullshit, there's no way Conservatives aren't the ones photoshopping Megyn Kelly onto porn images if that's even happening. I do like that they can't properly spell the name of this popular media personality though. Mo_Steel fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Dec 21, 2013 |
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Sir Rolo posted:Christmas time! And this Christmas everyone gets A true Return to Form for LL101 - Literally "tolerate my intolerance!"  So (for incredibly obvious reasons), I've never seen so much as a clip of DD. Does the suspension/firing of the interviewed guy essentially mean that the show's now dead in the water? I mean, is he the face of the
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Regalingualius posted:Literally "tolerate my intolerance!" It would be like firing Homer Simpson, I guess.
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