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Dissapointed Owl posted:"Mega man is manly! It should be done by men! We can't have a woman involved in the process, infecting everything in the game with their gross
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madjackmcmad posted:You miiiiight be wrong on this one. It happens, I've been there. It was such a cash cow Capcom decided to cancel any and all future plans of a new game mid-production. It's a relatively low number of angry Mega Man fans tossing their Hate dollars at the original developer, along with people interested in a new game by an established developer. I'm sure it will do fine, but I'd say find a wider appeal than Mega Man fans, unless you want your new series to follow the old down.
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Dissapointed Owl posted:It was such a cash cow Capcom decided to cancel any and all future plans of a new game mid-production. If everyone followed the biggest cash cow, all we'd have would be FPSes.
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Orzo posted:I didn't really follow this controversy when it happened a while back. But... hasn't the composer of Might No 9 always been a woman (that nobody complained about?) They picked a multilingual woman originally from Lebanon now living in Japan to be the community manager. She knew someone on the team so immediately the MRAs went into action alongside all the jealous people wanting to be forum moderator on the Mighty No. 9 site. The fact she at the very least speaks English, Japanese ,and Arabic (possibly French since it's used there) means nothing and she only got into the position because she is a woman. Then she had the audacity to draw beck as A GIRL and talk about Anita Sarkeesian positively in her social media accounts. Yeah, the composer is a woman. She's older though so she doesn't do social media, which means no one has really heard her opinions on many issues. She probably also gets a pass because she made the music they heard as kids.
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Looks like the previous vote update is backers only, anyone have links to all the Calls who were choices?
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Dec 29, 2013 20:22
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This one is all of them not colored. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mightyno9/mighty-no-9/posts/611851 This is what we got to chose between. http://www.mightyno9.com/en/news20131220
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Dec 29, 2013 20:31
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I don't really like that the one with creepy dead eyes won.
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Dec 29, 2013 20:34
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Dehry posted:This one is all of them not colored. I think I like E and H way better than the one that won.
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Dec 29, 2013 20:58
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S.J. posted:I think I like E and H way better than the one that won. E is easily the most expressive one of them all. Really neat faces. She seems most alive of them all.
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Dec 29, 2013 21:04
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S.J. posted:I think I like E and H way better than the one that won. E, F, and H were the concepts that made it to the 2nd round of voting. F lost by a point and a half.
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Dec 29, 2013 21:17
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Letting the "community" decide design decisions is the worst idea ever, why do people keep doing it.
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Dec 29, 2013 21:29
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Because it makes them money. Note to backers: no developer in the history of developing games has ever wanted your input on character, plot, enemy design, concept art, etc. Beta testing and gameplay feel, sure, that's valuable input. But the most fun part of making games (for a lot of people) is the creative part and no, they are not letting you design an enemy because they want to give the community power, they're doing it because you're paying money to do it. Wow that came off really cynical, but it's probably true.
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Dec 29, 2013 21:41
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Toffile posted:E, F, and H were the concepts that made it to the 2nd round of voting. F lost by a point and a half. You mean won?
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Dec 29, 2013 21:41
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Dehry posted:They picked a multilingual woman originally from Lebanon now living in Japan to be the community manager. She knew someone on the team so immediately the MRAs went into action alongside all the jealous people wanting to be forum moderator on the Mighty No. 9 site. The fact she at the very least speaks English, Japanese ,and Arabic (possibly French since it's used there) means nothing and she only got into the position because she is a woman. Then she had the audacity to draw beck as A GIRL and talk about Anita Sarkeesian positively in her social media accounts. Not to be an rear end here. But, part of the fault lies with hiring her in the position of community manager rather than support or production. The Community Manager job will always have the highest exposure to the community in a crowdfunded enviroment. And ANY community as a whole are dicks. IIRC everything also started when she said that she didn't really play megaman (or was it even that she did not like the games?) Anyway, all this basically meant serving a person up on a silver plate to be eaten by trolls and idiots. Some better planning could have avoided the whole situation. Pringles_School fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Dec 29, 2013 |
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S.J. posted:You mean won? Yeah, I swapped them in my mind accidentally.
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Pringles_School posted:Not to be an rear end here. But, part of the fault lies with hiring her in the position of community manager rather than support or production. It didn't start when she said she didn't play Megaman, it started when pathetic weirdos trawled through her Twitter history in a search for reasons to hate her and found her saying that she wasn't familiar with Megaman games, and then later saying Megaman X was her favourite. We all know that if at one point you didn't play a game you can't ever play it and form an opinion.
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Dec 29, 2013 23:07
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Well Megaman X is my favorite too, guess I'm disqualified from playing their game 
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Dehry posted:Then she had the audacity to draw beck as A GIRL  Hot garbage.
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Pringles_School posted:But, part of the fault lies with hiring her in the position of community manager rather than support or production. "Women shouldn't be community managers, screeching male gamers don't like it" "Women shouldn't serve in the police, they can't control male criminals" "Women shouldn't have management roles, male employees won't respect them" Pringles_School posted:Not to be an rear end here. Protip: you're an rear end.
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Wendell posted:It didn't start when she said she didn't play Megaman, it started when pathetic weirdos trawled through her Twitter history in a search for reasons to hate her and found her saying that she wasn't familiar with Megaman games, and then later saying Megaman X was her favourite. We all know that if at one point you didn't play a game you can't ever play it and form an opinion. That's more or less the same thing. As I said community exposure. Everything you do will be under the eyes of the community. Moreso because they have money invested. And no I don't believe people were initially trying to hate her except trolls who initially tried to find something to stir the community. Then the real monsters got it served for breakfast. Doesn't change anything I said at all. Hey, I can totally see why they hired her. Great communication and language skills, possible very nice person and so on. Problem is. That is NOT GOING TO MATTER poo poo. They should have looked at hiring a hardass (male or female before someone says anything) who has plenty of experience with said game and its community. And can hold his own in it. As such this situation was bound to happen from the start. Just like its really a dumb idea to send someone playing COD and excpecting people not to be a total rear end to that person. That doesn't make it right. But neither is carelessly throwing people in such a situation.
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DoctorTristan posted:"Women shouldn't be community managers, screeching male gamers don't like it" Yeah, I never said any of that. I didn't even blame her. I blame the people who don't have foresight and I blame society for being assholish. Also a women totally could do all of that.
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Why did every design have a skirt.
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Dec 29, 2013 23:26
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Lets! Get! Weird! posted:Why did every design have a skirt. Because,... I kinda excpected it and nearly every (every) design gives me the creeps. H would somewhat work with some adjustments.
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Pringles_School posted:Yeah, I never said any of that. I didn't even blame her. I blame the people who don't have foresight and I blame society for being assholish. Yes you did, you said it right here: Pringles_School posted:Not to be an rear end here. But, part of the fault lies with hiring her in the position of community manager rather than support or production. You flat-out stated that she should not have been hired for the job because of how (some elements of) the community would react.
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Lets! Get! Weird! posted:Why did every design have a skirt. That awful Design B didn't have a skirt. Design E was my favorite but honestly F was going to win basically because it had the most exposure, it was used in the Concept art and everything so pretty much people got it in their heads that F was basically Call. I still like how the Vote was really close, shows how popular E was so it wasn't just an F Landslide.
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Lets! Get! Weird! posted:Why did every design have a skirt. Since it is really a fanmade continuation of the Megaman series and in that series almost all the female robots have skirts for no good reason. They're not really being very creative here, essentially.
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Install Windows posted:Since it is really a fanmade continuation of the Megaman series I'm not sure how "the original creator of the character plus people who have worked on the series in large capacity" is "fanmade", but sure, why not.
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RMZXAnarchy posted:That awful Design B didn't have a skirt. Well yeah but it looks like she has no bottoms on at all in that one.
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Kyrosiris posted:I'm not sure how "the original creator of the character plus people who have worked on the series in large capacity" is "fanmade", but sure, why not. The majority of the team is fans of the series, it's also got that whole not-licensed-by-Capcom-so-we-can't-use-the-official-names-and-characters thing.
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DoctorTristan posted:You flat-out stated that she should not have been hired for the job because of how (some elements of) the community would react. Yes. Absolutly, for the reasons I stated. Which boils down to that she was an outsider to the whole thing hired in a position which has the most exposure to it. Not with her being female (There's tons of female megaman players who would have done great in that position) , though that only helped the hate parade (Which again are all horrible human beings) You have to consider assholes while hiring someone in a certain position. You have to consider everything. That's why I lay part of the blame to the Mighty No.9 HR. It's a problem you have in the real job market as well. Actually one I fell under myself when I wasn't hired for a position. Which in retrospect I'm glad about because it would have destroyed me mentally after hearing stories about it. Pringles_School fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Dec 29, 2013 |
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You seem to have it backwards - companies shouldn't have to worry about immature mewling manchildren when they make hiring decisions. The people blowing up are the ones that should change their attitude and decision making.
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Lets! Get! Weird! posted:You seem to have it backwards - companies shouldn't have to worry about immature mewling manchildren when they make hiring decisions. The people blowing up are the ones that should change their attitude and decision making. Companies definitly should worry about that. It would be horrible if they don't. Let's say you have one great efficent worker who's a total rear end in doing so and they have to hire an assistant for him. A boss can't just hire a person who is unable to deal with that guy. Otherwise that will destroy the new hire to the point where he may quit himself. You're not going to help ANYBODY with that. Of course they should take risks too. On the second part I fully agree. Society is horrible and should change. All of these things shouldn't ideally be a problem or cause for concern in the first place. Pringles_School fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Dec 29, 2013 |
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Am I a bad person for voting for F? I liked the basic simplicity of the design, H wasn't really working for me, and I wasn't fond of E's hat.
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Lets! Get! Weird! posted:Well yeah but it looks like she has no bottoms on at all in that one. Congratulations! This is exactly why she has a skirt. In the style they have, pants do not look like pants on robots.
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Pringles_School posted:Companies definitly should worry about that. From my experience (not in games admittedly) the 'super efficient rear end in a top hat' worker isn't that much better than everyone else (at least not irreplaceable) and one person being a major rear end in a top hat that can't work with anybody slows things down more than they help. Maybe if we change and throw people like that on their loving asses if they act like idiot manchildren the other talented manchildren will atleast keep that poo poo bottled up. DrManiac fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Dec 29, 2013 |
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Lets! Get! Weird! posted:Why did every design have a skirt. If it makes you feel any better, some of Call E's alternate designs didn't have skirts.  MikeJF posted:Am I a bad person for voting for F? I liked the basic simplicity of the design, H wasn't really working for me, and I wasn't fond of E's hat. Actually, I voted F too. The design really appealed to me. I really liked the use of red, and I think it's a nice juxtaposition to Beck's blue.
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DrManiac posted:From my experience the 'super efficient rear end in a top hat' worker isn't that much better than everyone else (at least not irreplaceable) and one person being a major rear end in a top hat that can't work with anybody slows things down more than they help. Correct. Absolutly correct Sadly, even assholes work somewhere. And thanks to glorious capitalism backstabbers and dicks are doing quite well at securing positions. Company politics (suck).
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Pringles_School posted:Yes. Absolutly, for the reasons I stated. See, this is where you're 100% wrong. This kind of hysterical overreaction only happens when the person in question is a woman. Pringles_School posted:You have to consider assholes while hiring someone in a certain position. You have to consider everything. That's why I lay part of the blame to the Mighty No.9 HR. That's what I thought you said, hence: DoctorTristan posted:"Women shouldn't be community managers, screeching male gamers don't like it"
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