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I hope that the Doctor gets stuck, Pertwee-era style, in Victorian England for the next five years. (I do not actually hope this.) (Yes I do.)
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moths posted:I'd take a dozen quarries over Victorian England any day. gently caress yeah, quarries! I have no problems with quarries being alien worlds. So long as it's an actual alien world, not, you know, a quarry in Victorian England.
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Jan 15, 2014 02:56
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I hope Stax, Vastra and lesbian Buffy get killed by being stomped on by a giant steampunk Cyberman. Who would have to actually be a weeping angel, of course.
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Jan 15, 2014 03:37
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Chairman Capone posted:I hope Stax, Vastra and lesbian Buffy get killed by being stomped on by a giant steampunk Cyberman. They'd only get brought back immediately to cheapen the whole affair because gently caress YOU MOFFAT SHE HAD A GOOD DEATH.
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Jan 15, 2014 03:40
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Where did Vastra come from, anyway? Isn't she an old RTD character?
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Jan 15, 2014 03:44
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Irish Joe posted:Where did Vastra come from, anyway? Isn't she an old RTD character? The Silurians weren't even in Modern-Who until Series 5. Vastra herself first appeared in Good Man Goes to War, I believe.
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Jan 15, 2014 03:45
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Irish Joe posted:Where did Vastra come from, anyway? Isn't she an old RTD character? She was a suddenly appearing old friend the Doctor has who we've never seen before.
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Jan 15, 2014 03:50
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Well that explains my confusion.
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Jan 15, 2014 03:51
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The_Doctor posted:gently caress yeah, quarries! I have no problems with quarries being alien worlds. So long as it's an actual alien world, not, you know, a quarry in Victorian England. I legitimately want the Doctor to end up in a quarry that the TARDIS tells him is some alien world, go through an entire adventure there, and then find out at the end it was Victorian England all along.
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Jan 15, 2014 04:57
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RyuujinBlueZ posted:I legitimately want the Doctor to end up in a quarry that the TARDIS tells him is some alien world, go through an entire adventure there, and then find out at the end it was Victorian England all along. I'm like 90% certain the original series made that joke at some point.
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Jan 15, 2014 06:19
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Rochallor posted:I'm like 90% certain the original series made that joke at some point. They did, in "The Hand of Fear". The Doctor and Sarah Jane landed in what the Doctor presumed was part of an alien planet, only to discover that it was in fact a British rock quarry.
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Jan 15, 2014 06:48
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The_Doctor posted:She was a suddenly appearing old friend the Doctor has who we've never seen before. See, I like the whole "here's some old friends of the Doctor's that you've never seen before" thing. The idea of showing that he has a big life outside of what we see on the TV show is kinda blunted if you just keep going back to that one group, though.
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Jan 15, 2014 06:52
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Big Mean Jerk posted:No, no, no, you see Moffat needs to bring back more of his Very Clever Pet Characters because they're Very Clever, you see. And that means going back to Victorian England. I think that the real reason for the Paternoster Gang is that Moffat wants a multiple companion setup but that it's too expensive. So they can hang around as pseudo-companions to fill out the ensemble a couple times a series, while he can include guests (Like Rory's Dad or Kate Stewart) in other episodes.
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Jan 15, 2014 07:18
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Sydney Bottocks posted:They did, in "The Hand of Fear". The Doctor and Sarah Jane landed in what the Doctor presumed was part of an alien planet, only to discover that it was in fact a British rock quarry. There's also that episode of the Chase where the First Doctor claims that entered a world of imagination powered by people's fears and it was actually just a cheesy haunted house.
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Jan 15, 2014 14:44
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Sydney Bottocks posted:They did, in "The Hand of Fear". The Doctor and Sarah Jane landed in what the Doctor presumed was part of an alien planet, only to discover that it was in fact a British rock quarry. Fine, make it a Scottish quarry. Nobody would see it coming!
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Jan 15, 2014 15:21
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I like the concept with the Paternoster Gang, faux-Erinem, and Riddell as well as the hundreds of years between episodes that Moffat is going out of his way to set up long swaths of time for tons of future 11th Doctor novels and audios with companions we haven't seen. It seem almost canon now that the 9th and 10th Doctors had very short lives without much wiggle room for other adventures (except I hope beyond hope that one day we'll get 3 seasons of BF audios with 9, Jack and Rose between The Doctor Dances and Boom Town  ). It's good that Moffat is allowing for a greater expanded universe.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:46
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Astroman posted:I like the concept with the Paternoster Gang, faux-Erinem, and Riddell as well as the hundreds of years between episodes that Moffat is going out of his way to set up long swaths of time for tons of future 11th Doctor novels and audios with companions we haven't seen. It seem almost canon now that the 9th and 10th Doctors had very short lives without much wiggle room for other adventures (except I hope beyond hope that one day we'll get 3 seasons of BF audios with 9, Jack and Rose between The Doctor Dances and Boom Town Everyone says this but it's implied that Ten traveled for a very long time during the year of specials and there's just as much (if not more) room for him to have gone on lots of adventures with companions we've never even seen. Nine's different, but I doubt Eccleston would ever do Big Finish anyway.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:53
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RyuujinBlueZ posted:Fine, make it a Scottish quarry. Nobody would see it coming! Scotland is part of Britain fyi
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Jan 15, 2014 18:36
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We don't have quarries here in America because there's no room for them in New York City, the White House or the Wild West, our three settings.
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Jan 15, 2014 18:40
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Scotland is part of Britain fyi I'm aware. Why do you think no one would see it coming?
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Jan 15, 2014 18:43
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Bicyclops posted:Everyone says this but it's implied that Ten traveled for a very long time during the year of specials and there's just as much (if not more) room for him to have gone on lots of adventures with companions we've never even seen. Nine somehow has 100 years of pre-Rose travels as of Day of the Doctor; he's one mirror-based retcon away from being in a similar boat.
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Jan 15, 2014 18:44
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vegetables posted:Nine somehow has 100 years of pre-Rose travels as of Day of the Doctor; he's one mirror-based retcon away from being in a similar boat. I never count what the Doctor says his age is as meaning anything because it varies widely, there's evidence indicating he just makes it up and realistically, how and why would he even keep track of it?
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Jan 15, 2014 18:49
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The Doctor does have a diary. I just don't think we've seen it since The Movie (When it was the 900 Year Diary, I think)
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Jan 15, 2014 18:54
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Scotland is part of Britain fyi
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Jan 15, 2014 18:59
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The only part of the UK the Doctor's never visited is Northern Ireland. Now, I'm not sure why anyone in their right mind would want to visit Northern Ireland, mind you, I'm just putting it out there.
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Jan 15, 2014 19:19
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2house2fly posted:We'll soon see about that #VoteYes You know I never know whether to be pro-independence out of spite or pro-union out of spite. Truly, it's hard.
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Jan 15, 2014 19:24
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The doctor visits ireland during the famine and matches wits with a monster potato
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Jan 15, 2014 19:24
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2house2fly posted:We'll soon see about that #VoteYes If we're being pedantic (and you know we are), independence would only mean Scotland wasn't a part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland*, it would still be a part of Great Britain as that's the name of the island it's on. *Which would presumably become "the United Kingdom of Great Britain, minus Scotland, and Northern Ireland" which might be enough to take it up a notch in the "Longest country names" ladder
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Rita Repulsa posted:The doctor visits ireland during the famine and matches wits with a monster potato Strax?
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Jan 15, 2014 19:31
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Burkion posted:Strax? Martha Jones.
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Jan 15, 2014 19:33
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Metal Loaf posted:The only part of the UK the Doctor's never visited is Northern Ireland. Hellboy did. Hellboy 1 Dr Who 0
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Jan 15, 2014 20:17
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vegetables posted:Nine somehow has 100 years of pre-Rose travels as of Day of the Doctor; he's one mirror-based retcon away from being in a similar boat. I thought it was consensus that Nine had some solo adventures between disappearing and reappearing at the very tail end of Rose. In particular, visiting the Kennedy assassination, Krakatoa, and preventing some people from boarding the Titanic, as seen earlier in the same episode. You could easily fit a century of shenanigans in there, all of it technically "before" Rose joins as a companion.
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Jan 15, 2014 20:58
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Ratspeaker posted:People in the other thread poo poo on RTD all the time, but I really enjoyed his seasons. Even in his worst episodes, he wrote characters that would just cling to you. No way I would have stayed with the series if I'd started off with Moffat. Though maybe part of it is blissful ignorance, since I didn't start watching the classic series until after season four, so I never figured out exactly how badly he hosed up in The End of Time. They really don't. I wish they did but they all love him as much as you do. It's loving terrible.
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Regarde Aduck posted:They really don't. I wish they did but they all love him as much as you do. It's loving terrible. Woe is you, the sole RTD Hater of them all. Hint, you're not. Everyone hates RTD and everyone hates Moffat and everyone loves RTD and everyone loves Moffat. These are the facts of the fandom.
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qntm posted:I thought it was consensus that Nine had some solo adventures between disappearing and reappearing at the very tail end of Rose. In particular, visiting the Kennedy assassination, Krakatoa, and preventing some people from boarding the Titanic, as seen earlier in the same episode. You could easily fit a century of shenanigans in there, all of it technically "before" Rose joins as a companion. Dropping a letter off at a pub in 15th century London...
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Burkion posted:Hint, you're not. Everyone hates RTD and everyone hates Moffat and everyone loves RTD and everyone loves Moffat. These are the facts of the fandom. I'm sure somewhere in the BBC archives there's an angry letter postmarked 31 November, 1963, that begins: quote:"Dear Miss Lambert, I don't know where you get off turning my show about two teachers and the ornery professor into a bizarre caveman romp, but you'd better quit it right now. By sending the Doctor and his companions back to such a primitive era, you have effectively removed any interest I had in the show..." And then the hand-typed newsletter cranked out on 8 December, 1963, that starts: quote:"We've seen "The Firemaker," the episode that airs in a couple days (except for the last scene, which was left off for mega-spoiler reasons, I guess.) And... it's not going to change anybody's mind about Lambert's Who. If you've been enjoying this season, you'll probably enjoy "The Firemaker," and if you've found the direction of the series a bit frustrating, then this episode, too, will frustrate you. The most surprising thing about "The Firemaker" is how unsurprising it all feels — it's exactly what you expect from Lambert, at this point.
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Astroman posted:Moffat is going out of his way to set up long swaths of time for tons of future 11th Doctor novels and audios with companions we haven't seen. In one of the recent Big Finish podcasts, Nicholas Briggs said that when he was recording his lines for Time of the Doctor, Moffat told him that he left some big gaps in 11's timeline for the inevitable 11th Doctor adventures. Apparently Matt said he'd be interested in recording some if they get the license sometime (which may be more likely after AudioGo's bankruptcy.) Also, apparently Moffat wrote the line in Night of the Doctor where the 8th Doctor mentioned the Big Finish companions as a surprise for them - sounds like he's a fan of what they're doing with the classic Doctors.
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Kircheis posted:In one of the recent Big Finish podcasts, Nicholas Briggs said that when he was recording his lines for Time of the Doctor, Moffat told him that he left some big gaps in 11's timeline for the inevitable 11th Doctor adventures. Apparently Matt said he'd be interested in recording some if they get the license sometime (which may be more likely after AudioGo's bankruptcy.) It's funny, when BF got the license back in '99, they got together a bunch of writers to propose storylines, and Moffat was one of the writers present, but left shortly into when it was revealed that only Peter, Colin, and Sylvester had signed on. Apparently he wasn't interested in writing for any Doctor other than McGann . . . then never did one when they did get McGann. Which is strange considering how much he loves Peter. Also, that meeting had the  moment of Paul Cornell being a dick to Nick Briggs.BF wanted to get their first release out as soon as possible, so they went with a writer who had experience writing Doctor Who (the Audio Visuals fan audios) and more importantly, writing in the audio medium. So Jason Haigh-Ellery and Gary Russell chose Nick Briggs. Which Cornell took great offense at. Since he had been one of the tentpole writers on the NAs, he felt the writer of the first one should have been "special", and told Briggs "frankly, that darling, that ain't you." Considering how awful Cornell's "The Shadow of the Scourge" was, I think BF made the right choice.
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qntm posted:I thought it was consensus that Nine had some solo adventures between disappearing and reappearing at the very tail end of Rose. In particular, visiting the Kennedy assassination, Krakatoa, and preventing some people from boarding the Titanic, as seen earlier in the same episode. You could easily fit a century of shenanigans in there, all of it technically "before" Rose joins as a companion. I think maybe the Titanic one could have been shortly after regenerating, since he's wearing Edwardian style clothes like the War Doctor had under his jacket (might have been Eight's that he kept, actually-which still matches up, since obviously the war doctor didn't exist in the minds of the writing staff at that point). Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Jan 16, 2014 |
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Bicyclops posted:We don't have quarries here in America because there's no room for them in New York City, the White House or the Wild West, our three settings. All of which are filmed in Vancouver. 
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