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LTBS
Oct 9, 2003

Big Pimpin, Spending the G's
I don't mind Musberger too much, as I've had to deal with The Devil Spawn themselves Verne and Gary.

gently caress Verne and Gary.

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Thermos H Christ
Sep 6, 2007

WINNINGEST BEVO
The Hawaii Bowl had Mark May and Lou Holtz doing commentary. After that, everything else sounds pretty good. Except that one time Matt Millen had a mini-stroke that caused every noun to come out as "hurtin' buckaroo."

Frinkahedron
Jul 26, 2006

Gobble Gobble
Auburn band reacts to the kick six

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgQjW4B_5c8

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Thermos H Christ posted:

The Hawaii Bowl had Mark May and Lou Holtz doing commentary. After that, everything else sounds pretty good. Except that one time Matt Millen had a mini-stroke that caused every noun to come out as "hurtin' buckaroo."

The best Matt Millen broadcast was when he and Sean McDonough poo poo all over the OSU/MSU game a few years ago.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


LTBS posted:

I don't mind Musberger too much, as I've had to deal with The Devil Spawn themselves Verne and Gary.

gently caress Verne and Gary.

The money sign and double throat slash commentary was one of the funniest things that's happened on a college football broadcast and why you need stodgy old guys to comment obliviously on a sport played by 18-22 year-olds.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Frinkahedron posted:

Auburn band reacts to the kick six


This is great, but I wonder why they put the drum major in such a spot that like three rows can't even see her.

It's because woodwinds don't matter.

an adult beverage
Aug 13, 2005

1,2,3,4,5 dem gators don't take no jive. go gator -US Rep. Corrine Brown (D) FL
The kick six was the most exciting play all year, I love listening to local radio announcers during those plays.

Meltathon posted:

It's because woodwinds don't matter.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Meltathon posted:

This is great, but I wonder why they put the drum major in such a spot that like three rows can't even see her.

It's because woodwinds don't matter.

not to be all :eng101:, but there are 2 other drum majors on either side of the band, each where the winds can see. I really like how the right-side drum major doesn't even pretend to care about conducting the band, he's just going to hug the director and celebrate.

Maxwells Demon
Jan 15, 2007


Meltathon posted:

This is great, but I wonder why they put the drum major in such a spot that like three rows can't even see her.

It's because woodwinds don't matter.

Because the woodwinds already know how to play the song. Especially if it's the fight song.

Incoherence
May 22, 2004

POYO AND TEAR

Meltathon posted:

This is great, but I wonder why they put the drum major in such a spot that like three rows can't even see her.
They probably don't have permission to put the podium on the edge of the field, which would otherwise be the solution (that, or put the color guard/dance team/miscellaneous storage in the first couple rows).

It's not really that big of a deal: there's only so much watching the drum major you can do while doing the horn flashes anyway, and in that compact of an area you can just listen to the tempo from behind you. (On the field this is either a bad idea or one you have to use carefully.) Also they can probably play the fight song in their sleep by now.

:marchingband101:

Also

quote:

It's because woodwinds don't matter.

Morby
Sep 6, 2007

This play will never get old for me. Never.

Oodles of Wootles
Nov 8, 2008

safe
Who let all the dweebs in

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Huh just realized PSU got Terry Smith, my school's old head coach who could never lead us to the promise land and always blow it in the championship game. God that Central Catholic game was heartbreaking :smith: Hopefully he does good things there.

Crotch Bat
Dec 6, 2003

Much like with everything else in life, the Euros seem to have more sense on how to do things in a fun atmosphere without sucking the soul out of the event.

Morby posted:

This play will never get old for me. Never.

It's on the level of the Hail Mary or the Play. For all of Bama's storied history they're going to have to live with seeing that play every season and every Iron Bowl for the rest of time.

That play changed football and how it's played. You might be hard pressed to see a return from a FG again(already rare) because every coach that tries something similar will at one point go "holy poo poo don't let that happen" and adjust how he does such an attempt. When they practice long FG kicks at practice now they're going to stress not just sitting there and admiring it but moving down the field to cut off a return.

kayakyakr
Feb 16, 2004

Kayak is true

Crotch Bat posted:

It's on the level of the Hail Mary or the Play. For all of Bama's storied history they're going to have to live with seeing that play every season and every Iron Bowl for the rest of time.

That play changed football and how it's played. You might be hard pressed to see a return from a FG again(already rare) because every coach that tries something similar will at one point go "holy poo poo don't let that happen" and adjust how he does such an attempt. When they practice long FG kicks at practice now they're going to stress not just sitting there and admiring it but moving down the field to cut off a return.

You're also going to see many fewer coaches try those long, prayer field goals just because you risk that return.

Of note: that was the 2nd 109 yard missed field goal return this year with Odell Beckham Jr taking one 109 against UAB. Not as impressive, but statistically significant.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
Nothing will ever ever top playing poker at the Planet Hollywood poker room and watching that FG return go down live and hearing/seeing the entire casino floor completely erupt. It was the omega

SmellsLikeToast
Dec 30, 2005

A GREATER MAN THAN I DESERVE
I'm just glad that play happened so they'd shut up about the one two weeks prior. Now I just have to see it for every edition of the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry from now until I die.

Dattserberg
Dec 30, 2005

National champion, Heisman winner, King crab enthusiast

ROSS MY SALAD posted:

Nothing will ever ever top playing poker at the Planet Hollywood poker room and watching that FG return go down live and hearing/seeing the entire casino floor completely erupt. It was the omega

I don't know, being there was pretty sweet. </:smug:>

Shappa
Jan 22, 2005

You probably don't know her, she goes to a different school

SmellsLikeToast posted:

I'm just glad that play happened so they'd shut up about the one two weeks prior. Now I just have to see it for every edition of the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry from now until I die.

I've been saying for quite some time now that the Auburn-Georgia finish was more improbable and much more ridiculous than the Iron Bowl.

Obviously not nearly as significant, but it is important to keep in mind that Bama would have had the division wrapped up if not for Ricardo Lewis's catch.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Crotch Bat posted:

It's on the level of the Hail Mary or the Play. For all of Bama's storied history they're going to have to live with seeing that play every season and every Iron Bowl for the rest of time.

The ultimate penance for all their three-peat nonsense.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!

LeeMajors posted:

The ultimate penance for all their three-peat nonsense.

It's a good thing their fans are strong enough to weather the hardships of watching replays of the handful of games that their team has lost in the last decade.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


VDay posted:

It's a good thing their fans are strong enough to weather the hardships of watching replays of the handful of games that their team has lost in the last decade.

Every now and again, I encounter something that I can't believe a sentient being has written without the protection of a helmet.

This is one of those times.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

VDay posted:

It's a good thing their fans are strong enough to weather the hardships of watching replays of the handful of games that their team has lost in the last decade.
I've been an Alabama fan since a little before Saban was hired (I was admitted to Alabama while he was still coaching the Dolphins). The fact that this sorta makes me feel like a member of the "old school" now with the number of new idiot fans the team has accumulated is horrid.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


JT Jag posted:

I've been an Alabama fan since a little before Saban was hired (I was admitted to Alabama while he was still coaching the Dolphins). The fact that this sorta makes me feel like a member of the "old school" now with the number of new idiot fans the team has accumulated is horrid.

Are you STRONG ENOUGHto hold onto your seat on the bandwagon?

Morby
Sep 6, 2007

LeeMajors posted:

Are you STRONG ENOUGHto hold onto your seat on the bandwagon?

Who could endure such slings and arrows?

Emron
Aug 2, 2005

Morby posted:

This play will never get old for me. Never.

It will to me, Morby. It will to me.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Crotch Bat posted:

That play changed football and how it's played. You might be hard pressed to see a return from a FG again(already rare) because every coach that tries something similar will at one point go "holy poo poo don't let that happen" and adjust how he does such an attempt. When they practice long FG kicks at practice now they're going to stress not just sitting there and admiring it but moving down the field to cut off a return.

That's a little over the top. That play did not change football or how it is played in the least. Being able to return a short field goal is nothing new and the only thing special about that play was that it was done as time expired. Malzahn putting a guy back there was smart coaching, but that play being successful was more a complete failure on the Alabama players part to realize the ball was still live, and on Sabin's part to have nobody in there capable of chasing a guy down if the kick was short. There was nothing remotely revolutionary about it.

Normally it would be smarter to not return a short field goal because you get possession at the point where the ball was kicked and you are unlikely to return it that far. In this case the situation was different because the clock had run out so if you don't return it you don't get another play.

And on the other side, the only reason that field goal was even attempted was because of the short time with a tie game. In any other situation it would have been a punt or Hail Mary.

Thoguh fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jan 22, 2014

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Want to spend 5-10 minutes reading Dave Brandon's attempts to convince himself and his fanbase that the Brady Hoke hire was totally normal and not at all desperately grasping at straws? Here you go!

also

quote:

"During that process (media members) were tracking flights, finding tail numbers, checking hotel rooms ... You can't enter a face-to-face interview with a coach (without confidentiality). You don't want to let your current employer know you're interviewing. So I had ensure confidentiality. So that required sneaking in the back door of hotels, flying empty airplanes (to random destinations), just silly stuff."

On one hand I can appreciate trolling the media and moron fans that obsessively watch FlightAware, but on the other that seems like an incredible waste of money. Especially when it's not hard at all to have a private plane taken off tracking sites.

Crotch Bat
Dec 6, 2003

Much like with everything else in life, the Euros seem to have more sense on how to do things in a fun atmosphere without sucking the soul out of the event.

Thoguh posted:

That's a little over the top. That play did not change football or how it is played in the least. Being able to return a short field goal is nothing new and the only thing special about that play was that it was done as time expired. Malzahn putting a guy back there was smart coaching, but that play being successful was more a complete failure on the Alabama players part to realize the ball was still live, and on Sabin's part to have nobody in there capable of chasing a guy down if the kick was short. There was nothing remotely revolutionary about it.

The play is so famous/infamous that it will absolutely affect how coaches approach a similar situation. Alabama's failure on that play is exactly how it will be affected. Saban loaded up a bunch of fat guys who made the initial block and stood by to watch it and you're simply not going to see that in the future because coaches will be too aware of the play to risk repeating it. They'll make sure they have speed on the field and they'll make sure their guys know to make the block and hustle down the field to prevent a return.

As someone else said it might flat out affect whether or not a coach wants to even kick the FG in a situation like that if they don't think it's a realistic option.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Crotch Bat posted:

This is wrong. The play is so famous/infamous that it will absolutely affect how coaches approach a similar situation. Alabama's failure on that play is exactly how it will be affected. Saban loaded up a bunch of fat guys who made the initial block and stood by to watch it and you're simply not going to see that in the future because coaches will be too aware of the play to risk repeating it. They'll make sure they have speed on the field and they'll make sure their guys know to make the block and hustle down the field to prevent a return.

As someone else said it might flat out affect whether or not a coach wants to even kick the FG in a situation like that if they don't think it's a realistic option.

It's always been legal to return missed field goals, so it's not a new play. As was pointed out, it's usually a bad strategic decision so nearly all the time it's allowed to go out of the end zone.

Saban hosed up. That's really all there is about it.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Deteriorata posted:

It's always been legal to return missed field goals, so it's not a new play. As was pointed out, it's usually a bad strategic decision so nearly all the time it's allowed to go out of the end zone.

Saban hosed up. That's really all there is about it.

Even then, Saban didn't really gently caress up as much as he didn't consider the possibility that the kick would stay in bounds

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
There have been high profile FG returns prior to this one, I can't imagine there are too many coaches who aren't aware of the possibility.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

MourningView posted:

There have been high profile FG returns prior to this one, I can't imagine there are too many coaches who aren't aware of the possibility.

There's also a much higher risk that a field goal like that will get blocked and returned for a touchdown (higher being relative, obviously. like 1% instead of .001%), but you don't see coaches putting a DB or linebacker behind the kicker to chase down somebody returning a blocked kick.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

I don't think it's as quite a 'wake-up call' moment as it's being made out to be. The bigger lesson is Cade Foster sucks and get a new kicker

Emron
Aug 2, 2005

pillsburysoldier posted:

I don't think it's as quite a 'wake-up call' moment as it's being made out to be. The bigger lesson is Cade Foster sucks and get a new kicker

Cade Foster didn't kick on that play. But your point stands in that he missed a bunch before that.

Frinkahedron
Jul 26, 2006

Gobble Gobble
VT is apparently looking at UCONN AD Warde Manuel to take over the AD job here.

e: nope, nothing to see here

Frinkahedron fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Jan 22, 2014

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Texas bas been pretty spoiled with the special teams for quite awhile but I just can't figure out how Nick "I literally know nothing else but football" Saban let such a loving travesty of a kicking game go on like that.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

Emron posted:

Cade Foster didn't kick on that play. But your point stands in that he missed a bunch before that.

The particular kicker on that ending kick rules though

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
The key is to have like 12 kickers on the roster at all times, obviously. One time Iowa had three (!) scholarship kickers and wound up starting a walk on instead. We also currently have multiple scholarship punters. Kirk Ferentz wants to make me sad.

They felt bad for one of the scholarship kickers and let him pretend to be a backup QB. He'd go out there and warm up with the QBs and signal in plays from the sidelines, it was adorable.

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Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

go3 posted:

Texas bas been pretty spoiled with the special teams for quite awhile but I just can't figure out how Nick "I literally know nothing else but football" Saban let such a loving travesty of a kicking game go on like that.

On Saban's teams, kickers are for extra points, not field goals.

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