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firestruck
Dec 28, 2010

nullify me

Fojar38 posted:

Try teaching a noob how to rocket jump in a way that doesn't make them want to rage quit.

Edit: Rocket jumping is also all about knowing the map so you know where health kits are.

As far as 'learning the game and getting a few kills' is concerned, rocket jumping isn't really that high of a priority. You can just kind of walk around shooting dudes with your rocket launcher and shotgun and do pretty well.

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Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

A shrubbery! posted:

^^^ Taunt after every kill, the best ones are where your victim gets a killcam of you taunting while his backup closes in behind you. :D


That's why I said with a little experience, Eagles have to earn their wings!

My one virtue in TF2 is never being mad when I get killed during a taunt. Though I have developed a stupid habit of all caps typing chat after, or when I obviously see it coming "HUBRIS!" and "Taunt addiction is my second greatest weakness. Or "The vicious circle of taunt death" if I did it to someone else first.

Other weaknesses from most to least severe are-
My terrible Aim.
Enemies who can Aim.
Complete explosive jumping incompetence.
Skillhose Crits, the only Random Crits I'm Mad At Videogames about.
Super Demoman Bottle Taunt addiction 2 Hyper Fighting. Yes I know we're trying to stop a capture but I just got a bottle kill and I can stop whenever I want.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Playing demoman with Loch-n-Load and Sticky Jumper almost feels like cheating, but it's so much fun. :3:

Collateral Damage fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jan 30, 2014

STANKBALLS TASTYLEGS
Oct 12, 2012

Honestly, just playing through jump_beef helped my soldier game so well it's scary. I suddenly understand how to launch my self across maps and it's great.

Mercury Crusader
Apr 20, 2005

You know they say that all demons are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Pyro Jack and you can see that statement is not true, hee-ho!
You don't even really need to learn how to do anything particularly fancy with rocket jumping, which I think a lot of folks assume you HAVE to do in order to be competent at Soldier in any capacity. As long as you can figure out how to launch yourself in the direction you want most of the time, and can air strafe, that should be good enough. But I think a lot of folks see those jump videos with crazy rollouts and assume that, if you can't do that, you shouldn't even bother with the class, so they get discouraged and go back to Sniper I guess.

I believe that, more important than "trick jumps" or whatever, is knowing where to jump on the map to get height advantage, to get through certain paths quicker, to get to medkits/ammo crates faster, and to dive bomb Medics.

Mercury Crusader fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Jan 30, 2014

Dr. Dos
Aug 5, 2005

YAAAAAAAY!
If you're not playing competitively (and in some occasions even then) you can get away with your rollout being "whip teammates".

kaleidoscopic
Feb 11, 2008

let go your earthly tether
enter the void
empty, and become wind
y4 bl0w

Mercury Crusader posted:

and go back to Sniper I guess

you say that as if it's a bad thing

Mercury Crusader
Apr 20, 2005

You know they say that all demons are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Pyro Jack and you can see that statement is not true, hee-ho!

kaleidoscopic posted:

you say that as if it's a bad thing



Guess how many headshots were made?

1, by a BLU Sniper against one of them, the rest got gibbed by Soldiers.

Mercury Crusader fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Jan 30, 2014

STANKBALLS TASTYLEGS
Oct 12, 2012

Is that a Team Spirit painted Gibus? Do people really paint those?

Sanctum
Feb 14, 2005

Property was their religion
A church for one
They wear the gibus ironically, but still want to stand out.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Yellow painted gibuses (gibii?) seem fairly common for some dumb reason.

Mercury Crusader
Apr 20, 2005

You know they say that all demons are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Pyro Jack and you can see that statement is not true, hee-ho!

Fiend Computer posted:

Is that a Team Spirit painted Gibus? Do people really paint those?

Yes, they do. Case in point:

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Mercury Crusader posted:

Yes, they do. Case in point:



January 29, 2014

still the best TF2 killcam shot.

QwertySanchez
Jun 19, 2009

a wacky guy
Man, I miss the 2fort2furious all crit mario kart server.

Then I remember that one guy who'd rocket jump onto the roof of the middle building and just spam rockets at the enemies spawn for 4 to 5 hours a day. :spergin:

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

Painted gibus? I guess I know what to do with that can of paint I've been sitting on since that only time I made the mistake of opening a crate.

Jimbone Tallshanks
Dec 16, 2005

You can't pull rank on murder.

I have a Muskelmannbraun Gibus because the paint dropped and it looks very hobo-ish

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

nerdbot posted:

I kind of detest the whole "Pybro" idea because it gets frustrating to see Engineers who rely on the existence of a nanny to survive, and it's even worse to see Pyros just sitting in front of a dispenser in the middle of nowhere holding down M1, but at the end of the day it's still Team Fortress and helping is always better than not helping. Sometimes you see a Spy who's really good outclassing an Engineer who's trying their best but just can't deal and you wanna give em what-for.

I like being a Pyro Friend whenever I'm playing with my buddy because he enjoys going Engineer and being able to wander around a little. Degreaser/Reserve Shooter/Homewrecker is a fun loadout because I like to patrol the area a little instead of just camping the dispenser. Reserve Shooter lets me take care of anything that's not a heavy relatively easily, and the Homewrecker is just in case a spy does manage to sap the sentry.

RustyTrombone
Oct 23, 2007

by zen death robot
Fire then Ax then Shotgun or Flare is faster than two melee hits.

edit: This was a reply to a convo pages ago, whoops!!

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

strangemusic posted:

More people need to play Fat Scout. That is all.

I've been thinking that with Valve retooling useless old items into new and interesting items, they should take the opportunity to completely rework the Dalokov's Bar into a Primary replacement that, when eaten, gives you buffs to your shotgun. Something like faster reload speed or tighter spread. One idea I had for a Shotgun-Heavy orientated buff would be minicrits on headshot. I mean, if the Demoman can replace his weapons to become a completely different kind of subclass, I don't see why they can't go in that direction for the Heavy.

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn
Anyone else having ping issues with servers in L.A. tonight?

nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

Constable Lemon posted:

I've been thinking that with Valve retooling useless old items into new and interesting items, they should take the opportunity to completely rework the Dalokov's Bar into a Primary replacement that, when eaten, gives you buffs to your shotgun. Something like faster reload speed or tighter spread. One idea I had for a Shotgun-Heavy orientated buff would be minicrits on headshot. I mean, if the Demoman can replace his weapons to become a completely different kind of subclass, I don't see why they can't go in that direction for the Heavy.

But Demoknight was a stupid idea that they never should have done.

Like I don't get it honestly, every time I play Demoknight it just feels so non-conducive to fun.

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com

nerdbot posted:

But Demoknight was a stupid idea that they never should have done.

Like I don't get it honestly, every time I play Demoknight it just feels so non-conducive to fun.

Well that is you because I love gearing up in my Stormin' Norman and chopping heads off and doing nothing but that and running around a cart sometimes. Or a point or nothing that stuff is just fun.

Zero!
Apr 13, 2011

You're gonna have to try a little harder than THAT.
Next time you play MvM, consider giving demoknight a try. It's actually surprisingly effective once you're upgraded. You can get a charge once every ~2 seconds, 4 seconds of crits after every kill and are able to swing your melee so fast that you can often pretty easily out damage everyone else on the map. It takes a bit of money to actually get up to being that effective but you can just roll the grenade launcher for a couple of waves and then swap out to the booties when you've got enough credits.

Red Bones
Aug 9, 2012

"I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

nerdbot posted:

But Demoknight was a stupid idea that they never should have done.

Like I don't get it honestly, every time I play Demoknight it just feels so non-conducive to fun.

Demoknights are rubbish in open spaces but in indoor areas and the like, I've had a lot of fun playing one. It's an ambush class: if the other player can see you coming, you're not playing it right.

Ronald Nixon
Mar 18, 2012
I've taken to using the needlegun after having used the crossbow for ages, so I'm having to retrain myself to hit with the needlegun.

I know I need to lead to account for their movement and needle travel time, but which direction do I need to compensate in to cover the effect of their latency and my latency? i.e. do increase the lead distance or decrease it?

QwertySanchez
Jun 19, 2009

a wacky guy

Constable Lemon posted:

I've been thinking that with Valve retooling useless old items into new and interesting items, they should take the opportunity to completely rework the Dalokov's Bar into a Primary replacement that, when eaten, gives you buffs to your shotgun. Something like faster reload speed or tighter spread. One idea I had for a Shotgun-Heavy orientated buff would be minicrits on headshot. I mean, if the Demoman can replace his weapons to become a completely different kind of subclass, I don't see why they can't go in that direction for the Heavy.

I also think that not carrying a minigun whould give the heavy a speed boost, perhaps to soldier level or almost that. I think that'd be a pretty sweet way to do it though. I'd love to see him get some big powerful revolvers or just borrow the snipers smgs for primary. Or just a second shotgun for less reload times! He can fill a rage bar and use both at once.

Stick Figure Mafia
Dec 11, 2004

Golem II posted:

Anyone else having ping issues with servers in L.A. tonight?

I wasn't but every server I joined had most players at over 200 ping for some reason. I have no idea why that would be. I was under 70 but I usually get around 20-30 if I join West Coast servers. Something is up.

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker

Mercury Crusader posted:

I just noticed that the BLU Soldier and Heavy are available now. How long ago was that?
I think they were available for preorder about 4 months ago and arrived last month.

concerned mom
Apr 22, 2003

by Lowtax
Grimey Drawer
I'm not sure if I've toggled something or something's changed in the update but I can't seem to change loadout now when walking in to resupply cabinet. I just sticks to whatever loadout I spawn as.

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!
Could be the server lost connection to steam after you connected, seems to happen quite often.

Alpha Kenny Juan
Apr 11, 2007

Happened to me last night as well. Had to crush people with the sticky launcher instead of sticky jumping/caber. :sigh: Oddly enough it let me change once, Then got stuck.

Magypsy
Apr 2, 2010

People call me Pine! (Pine!)
Eastern Venus Space Police.
If there's slime, (There's slime!)
Involved in a crime, (Bad crime!)
We'll clean them up on the beat! (The beat!)
Team Fortress 2 in snowball fight form. I'm kind of upset that the last idea wasn't a festive reskin, but there you go.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Magypsy posted:

Team Fortress 2 in snowball fight form. I'm kind of upset that the last idea wasn't a festive reskin, but there you go.

They were actually pretty creative with weapon "creation" too.. all of them except the maybe the demo were somewhat plausible!

Emron
Aug 2, 2005

I've been wondering why my aim has felt ok but inconsistent since I reinstalled, and I realized last night that I've been playing with mouse accel on :/

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Ha, I had the same a few days ago, it felt like my aim was way off. Found I had accidentally pressed that stupid button on my mouse that changes its resolution.

Belasarius
Feb 27, 2002
Whip teammates isn't bad for competitive highlander.

BlueDestiny
Jun 18, 2011

Mega deal with it

QwertySanchez posted:

I also think that not carrying a minigun whould give the heavy a speed boost, perhaps to soldier level or almost that. I think that'd be a pretty sweet way to do it though. I'd love to see him get some big powerful revolvers or just borrow the snipers smgs for primary. Or just a second shotgun for less reload times! He can fill a rage bar and use both at once.

It's really annoying how useless the shotgun is for a regular Heavy. "Here's a gun that is a worse version of your main gun except you don't slow down" vs "You can heal yourself to full at any time".

I can't even remember the last time I ran out of ammo with a regular minigun since you're always wading through dead players, and you can GRU-sprint over to an ammo pack anyways.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

BlueDestiny posted:

It's really annoying how useless the shotgun is for a regular Heavy. "Here's a gun that is a worse version of your main gun except you don't slow down" vs "You can heal yourself to full at any time".

I can't even remember the last time I ran out of ammo with a regular minigun since you're always wading through dead players, and you can GRU-sprint over to an ammo pack anyways.

Originally (as in, the days before teleporters could be upgraded) the shotgun was super important for defense when running to the front lines. If a threat showed up it was the fastest way to inflict some damage. But now that there's the GRU and fast teleporters it's become less important.

Spies don't seem to make their living lurking around near spawn areas like they did once upon a time either.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Magypsy posted:

Team Fortress 2 in snowball fight form. I'm kind of upset that the last idea wasn't a festive reskin, but there you go.

I see this was made right after the tamislav was added :v:

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Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


Yesterday I saw a new player playing Heavy who had JUST run out of ammo in his minigun mid-fight, and after he heard "clickclickclickclickclick" he remembered he had a shotgun and whipped it out and got the kill he was looking for. Bam - "Rationing" achievement.

Made me smile :)

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