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Since Pinball Arcade has the sim side of things covered, I'd like to see more modern video games in the spirit of Pinball Quest or Kirby's Pinball Land. Things that completely embrace the video game side of virtual pinball instead of the half hearted stuff like in the Pinball Fx 2 tables I've played. The only new one that comes to mind was Momonga's Pinball Adventure, which was fun for a little bit, but extremely short and not very deep.
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ponzicar posted:Since Pinball Arcade has the sim side of things covered, I'd like to see more modern video games in the spirit of Pinball Quest or Kirby's Pinball Land. Things that completely embrace the video game side of virtual pinball instead of the half hearted stuff like in the Pinball Fx 2 tables I've played. The only new one that comes to mind was Momonga's Pinball Adventure, which was fun for a little bit, but extremely short and not very deep. Flipnic on PS2 is pretty crazy.
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If Pinball Arcade got and managed to not gently caress up the Pinball Circus I would buy every table immediately. I've been picking and choosing from my favorites on Android and waiting for a Steam sale to have it for PC. VV Absolutely, and I know for a fact that Tim Arnold would never give up his machine. I worked for his arcade in Michigan years ago after his brother took over most of the business, and he came in a couple times. Nice guy, but really weird. VV MichiganCubbie fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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Given only two(?) Pinball Circus machines exist and part of their process is buying at least one copy of a table they're recreating, I doubt that is gonna happen.
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Jan 29, 2014 06:15
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Oh yeah I forgot it's 1990 so it's covered in random loving shapes and primary colors.
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Jan 29, 2014 06:59
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Discount Viscount posted:Flipnic on PS2 is pretty crazy. Someone listed that in the underrated PS2 games thread and I just watched a YouTube video of it. Definitely looks like someone watched the Sesame Street pinball bit and made a video game out of it. Seems to have mixed opinions though because one guy called it one of the worst pinball games ever and several other people said there's too much going on.
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Jan 29, 2014 08:11
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MichiganCubbie posted:If Pinball Arcade got and managed to not gently caress up the Pinball Circus I would buy every table immediately. I've been picking and choosing from my favorites on Android and waiting for a Steam sale to have it for PC. I'm holding out for a Steam sale on season 1 myself, but I don't know if it'll ever come, considering it requires Farsight to actually communicate with Valve, and want to discount their tables in the first place.
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Jan 29, 2014 08:17
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It's not new at all but Crüe Ball on the Genesis is some Crazy poo poo. Features music by the guy who made the music for Black Knight 2000.
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Jan 29, 2014 12:32
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It was all about Alien Crush back in the day.
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Jan 29, 2014 12:56
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Anonymous Robot posted:I'm holding out for a Steam sale on season 1 myself, but I don't know if it'll ever come, considering it requires Farsight to actually communicate with Valve, and want to discount their tables in the first place. FS licensing requires them to pay a certain, probably flat, fee for every table they sell at least for the tables with external licensing, like the kickstart tables. That may hinder chances of them being able to deep discount season packs at any point.
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I'm just planning on repurchasing seasons 1 and 2 on steam once they finally get the DX11 version up. That said, I'm pretty happy with the general quality of the season 3 tables on Steam so far.
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MichiganCubbie posted:VV Absolutely, and I know for a fact that Tim Arnold would never give up his machine. I worked for his arcade in Michigan years ago after his brother took over most of the business, and he came in a couple times. Nice guy, but really weird. VV If you or me or anybody else had that machine, one of the rarest pinball games in existence, do you think they'd just give it up so somebody could make a virtual recreation of it? I mean, you or I might loan it out if a company wanted to recreate it, but you can't expect everybody to be willing to do that. I could maybe see them borrowing the one from the Vegas Pinball Hall of Fame though for the right price. But in all, it'd probably be expensive and time-consuming as hell to get that table made, and you wouldn't really have a great deal of people who'd appreciate the time and money that would go into getting it made.
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Nurge posted:FS licensing requires them to pay a certain, probably flat, fee for every table they sell at least for the tables with external licensing, like the kickstart tables. That may hinder chances of them being able to deep discount season packs at any point. Zen's done discounts and Humble Bundles before despite most of their tables being licensed and I can't imagine FarSight's terms are much more egregious than theihahahahahhahaha
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They did Going Nuts, and isn't that one also a super rare unreleased machine?
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The Pinball Circus will also likely never come out because WMS won't let them. Despite the fact that they're not in pinball anymore, they're still fiercely protective of the properties and wouldn't allow an unreleased (or modified) game out. Whoever owns the rights to Gottlieb/Premier probably doesn't care.
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Clouseau posted:The Pinball Circus will also likely never come out because WMS won't let them. Despite the fact that they're not in pinball anymore, they're still fiercely protective of the properties and wouldn't allow an unreleased (or modified) game out. Whoever owns the rights to Gottlieb/Premier probably doesn't care. Mondial Group was the one in control of the Gottlieb properties the last time I looked. To some degree I do know they cover the IP since they don't allow people to just sell copies of their manuals. Though I doubt the tables and such command a big part of their portfolio.
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King Vidiot posted:If you or me or anybody else had that machine, one of the rarest pinball games in existence, do you think they'd just give it up so somebody could make a virtual recreation of it? I mean, you or I might loan it out if a company wanted to recreate it, but you can't expect everybody to be willing to do that. The Pinball Hall of Fame one was actually the one I was talking about. I completely agree, though. Just a pipe dream. It would be awesome though.
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Took the #1 spot for my friends list on Return of the Jedi, and I'm still really let down by that table. The table designer said on the official forums that he didn't want players to have the kickbacks on all the time, but it's this weird thing where lighting the kickbacks is difficult since there's only one inlane with no ramps feeding to it. Then, when you turn it on, it doesn't even always save the drat ball. It makes everything feel really random, especially with the slings that launch the ball with way more force than normal. I wouldn't mind that much if the rest of the table wasn't a lot of fun. The hurry-ups have a pretty good variety, the multiballs are fun, and I really like the missions. The multipliers for ball-outages are pretty easy to raise (not X-Men easy, but easy), and the vari-target is weirdly satisfying to hit. It just feels too easy to get screwed on it.
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Niwrad posted:Pinball Circus looks like a table I'd be enamored with for a few games and then realize it's really boring. It is. I played it at the PHoF and it's pretty to look at and you will definitely get suckered in for one game, but it is repetitive to the point of tedium. Quick question for anyone who has bought or sold pinballs lately, where do you recommend to sell them? I am thinking about parting with mine (Baywatch, Black Rose, ST:tNG, and T2), but don't want to get flooded with people offering too little or people offering to pay with Nigerian bank orders.
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Bob Loblaw posted:Quick question for anyone who has bought or sold pinballs lately, where do you recommend to sell them? I am thinking about parting with mine (Baywatch, Black Rose, ST:tNG, and T2), but don't want to get flooded with people offering too little or people offering to pay with Nigerian bank orders. Pinside.com seems like a decent place. I lucked into my last sale by being friends on facebook with a local operator who paid me my asking price without any stress or worry.
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Bob Loblaw posted:Quick question for anyone who has bought or sold pinballs lately, where do you recommend to sell them? I am thinking about parting with mine (Baywatch, Black Rose, ST:tNG, and T2), but don't want to get flooded with people offering too little or people offering to pay with Nigerian bank orders. Where do you live?
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cosmicjim posted:Where do you live? Atlanta area. And thanks above for the Pinside tip.
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Bob Loblaw posted:Atlanta area. I'm in Alabama, I could consider making a trip depending on prices. Those are tables I'm interested in.
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If you want to get the most for your table, Ebay prices are usually the highest, but you probably have to wait to get someone to buy it. Pinside or Mrpinball prices are next highest, and get to the serious collectors, depending on condition, ability to post pictures, etc. The arcademuseum.com forums may get you a fair deal, but you have to pay $2 to register. Rec.games.pinball tends to have a lot of people who will laugh at you for asking a reasonable price. Do you know current book prices for your machines? I'm happy to provide them if you don't have a price guide.
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So the latest Zaccaria update dropped the other night with some new table. Better get it while you can -- a big revenue stream for ASK is their Silver Membership which promises all future tables for the app, something Farsight said Apple is now banning and forced them to remo Oh look, it seems someone is full of poo poo.
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Domus posted:If you want to get the most for your table, Ebay prices are usually the highest, but you probably have to wait to get someone to buy it. Pinside or Mrpinball prices are next highest, and get to the serious collectors, depending on condition, ability to post pictures, etc. The arcademuseum.com forums may get you a fair deal, but you have to pay $2 to register. Rec.games.pinball tends to have a lot of people who will laugh at you for asking a reasonable price. Do you know current book prices for your machines? I'm happy to provide them if you don't have a price guide. This is pretty good info, just remember to account for final sale fees and paypal fees(if you accept it)for ebay sales.
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cosmicjim posted:I'm in Alabama, I could consider making a trip depending on prices. Those are tables I'm interested in. Let me double check with the wife and I will let you know. I have been looking to sell them as they don't get used much anymore, but she is funny about letting things go. I got your PM and will let you know as soon as I hear from her.
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Eegah posted:So the latest Zaccaria update dropped the other night with some new table. Better get it while you can -- a big revenue stream for ASK is their Silver Membership which promises all future tables for the app, something Farsight said Apple is now banning and forced them to remo How does Zaccaria compare to the other pinball apps? I'd like to have an alternative to :farsight: but I just can't get into Zen Pinball, the physics seem off and the controls aren't customizable enough.
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Werthog 95 posted:How does Zaccaria compare to the other pinball apps? I'd like to have an alternative to :farsight: but I just can't get into Zen Pinball, the physics seem off and the controls aren't customizable enough. The lighting and graphics in general are great (you have a lights on and off option!), and the physics are kinda wonky but completely customizable. The real question is if you dig Zac tables, which are pretty much all early solid states with a lot of funky art and some neat gimmicks. I believe the app is a free download and it should have Time Machine in it for free which is one of their better tables.
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Eegah posted:So the latest Zaccaria update dropped the other night with some new table. Better get it while you can -- a big revenue stream for ASK is their Silver Membership which promises all future tables for the app, something Farsight said Apple is now banning and forced them to remo I hate to be trying to defend farsight again, but there's probably a distinct legal difference between "You'll get every table we'll release in the future." and "You'll get 10 tables for this season pack." The latter means that if farsight caves tomorrow and never releases anything again Apple is probably at least partially liable for the promised tables not delivered. Zaccaria doesn't actually promise a set number of tables for the silver membership.
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Nurge posted:I hate to be trying to defend farsight again, but there's probably a distinct legal difference between "You'll get every table we'll release in the future." and "You'll get 10 tables for this season pack." The latter means that if farsight caves tomorrow and never releases anything again Apple is probably at least partially liable for the promised tables not delivered. Zaccaria doesn't actually promise a set number of tables for the silver membership. Also Apple isn't exactly consistent with the policies they enforce.
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Nurge posted:I hate to be trying to defend farsight again, but there's probably a distinct legal difference between "You'll get every table we'll release in the future." and "You'll get 10 tables for this season pack." The latter means that if farsight caves tomorrow and never releases anything again Apple is probably at least partially liable for the promised tables not delivered. Zaccaria doesn't actually promise a set number of tables for the silver membership. "Silver Membership will offer 27 pinball tables" is identical language in my book. But yeah, Apple.
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Nurge posted:I hate to be trying to defend farsight again, but there's probably a distinct legal difference between "You'll get every table we'll release in the future." and "You'll get 10 tables for this season pack." The latter means that if farsight caves tomorrow and never releases anything again Apple is probably at least partially liable for the promised tables not delivered. Zaccaria doesn't actually promise a set number of tables for the silver membership. You'd think that. But I'd subscribed to a magazine, and they folded a couple months after I paid for a year subscription. Apple didn't do poo poo about it. I don't see why this would be different.
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You guys are aware of this, right? Apple probably is getting stricter about in-app purchases even if Zaccaria got through this time. http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/15/apple-settles-app-store-in-app-purchase-lawsuit-with-us-government
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Farsight just posted that the next table is Black Knight 2000. Hell yes.
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Werthog 95 posted:How does Zaccaria compare to the other pinball apps? I'd like to have an alternative to :farsight: but I just can't get into Zen Pinball, the physics seem off and the controls aren't customizable enough. I really like the Zaccaria app, it was a bit wonky at first but they've been constantly improving it with new features and better physics, and you can customize the physics if there are things you don't like. I feel like the "simulation" physics in Zaccaria are more "real" than Pinball Arcade, in that you can tell these were games made to get your money. Some of the tables are very difficult and it seems to move at a faster pace, not uncommon for me to finish a game in a couple minutes whereas sometimes in PA I have to force myself to lose.
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Any recommendations for Android Pinball? Zen pinball seems decent but I don't want to buy a bunch of tables if there's better offerings available.
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elf help book posted:You guys are aware of this, right? Apple probably is getting stricter about in-app purchases even if Zaccaria got through this time. An app-store-wide policy change like this would probably at least get some press in the rags but I don't see anything on AppleInsider (and God do they post a lot), Ars or the various iOS gaming sites. I remember there being a flurry of uproar when they blocked Kindle et al from allowing purchases outside the App Store within their own apps, for instance. There should also be a Terms of Service Agreement change for developers pushed out as well but again nothing that I'm aware of. There's other apps beyond pinball that do prepayments for unreleased content. Telltale apps and the NYT Crossword app come to mind, Zinio's app store page lists a Maxim subscription among their top IAPs. Hell Apple still has their own Newsstand pseudo-app whose entire MO is subscriptions to future magazine or newspaper content. Put it all together and either Farsight seems to be rather singularly singled out for an undisclosed policy change, they hosed up in some other undisclosed manner... or Apple's Russian-Roulette-style of how they enforce their policies just fell on TPA this month 
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If you like disco, LSD, and programmable sound generators, you'll love Zaccaria pinball.
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