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Yeah I know he smashes his face in I just thought they might have changed it since its pretty graphic even by GoT standards. All the scratches on his abdomen made me think they were the cuts Oberyn got in as the Mountain deflected them. In the book Oberyn goes for the hinges in his armor I just thought they might have changed the fight up a little bit but didn't catch him in armor before. Before the Red Viper fight I don't really remember what the Mountain does outside of rape and pillage until the face smashing, Qyburn, constant screams and an oddly silent Kingsguard.
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He cuts a horse in two and almost kills Loras. And he was at Harrenhal, doing mountainly things.
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Jan 31, 2014 02:43
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Gregor doesn't appear on-page all that frequently, most of the time it's just other characters talking about his deeds. The trailers showed him wearing some armor during the Oberyn fight and I doubt they'd have him strip out of it in the middle of the fight. They probably add a few extra scenes to get the viewers on the same page regarding what kind of a monster Gregor is supposed to be, there are rumors that we will be shown the scene involving the inn keeper's daughter rape, so it might be related to that or otherwise a new scene altogether.
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Jan 31, 2014 02:44
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escape artist posted:He doesn't kill the Red Viper with a sword anyway.
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Jan 31, 2014 02:45
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DeepQantas posted:That's not a sword. That's the zipline he uses to save Tyrion from the tower. That made me laugh very hard. Thank you.
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Jan 31, 2014 02:46
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I think those are blood spatters, not scratches. And since he hasn't been around much recently they very well could add a scene or two to remind the audience just why he's so terrible.
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Jan 31, 2014 02:46
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He's probably going to kill another horse. Animal cruelty pisses viewers off like nothing else.
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Jan 31, 2014 02:48
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In the trailer they show some dude in King's Landing cowering on the ground right before they cut to that scene. Could be misleading editing but I'm guessing they have him gently caress someone up early in the season just to remind people who he is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZY43QSx3Fk&t=83s
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Jan 31, 2014 03:14
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Gregor doesn't appear on-page all that frequently, most of the time it's just other characters talking about his deeds. The trailers showed him wearing some armor during the Oberyn fight and I doubt they'd have him strip out of it in the middle of the fight. That would make sense, the scene right before the shot I posted is a guy on his knees who appears to be begging for his life.
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Jan 31, 2014 03:38
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emanresu tnuocca posted:They probably add a few extra scenes to get the viewers on the same page regarding what kind of a monster Gregor is supposed to be, there are rumors that we will be shown the scene involving the inn keeper's daughter rape, so it might be related to that or otherwise a new scene altogether. Indeed, the casting of an "inn-keepers daughter" suggests they're going to show that directly, which should make him pretty damned hated. Plus I imagine we'll get an expositostory from Sandor while he wanders with Arya.
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Jan 31, 2014 03:43
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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They've got stock footage from season one they can flash through, plus a few characters "the mountain is doing stuff OMG!!!"
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Jan 31, 2014 05:58
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escape artist posted:He cuts a horse in two and almost kills Loras. And he was at Harrenhal, doing mountainly things. No amount of "last time of Game of Thrones!" is going to make any unsullied connect Mr. Buff Rockpecks with skinny Lebanese guy.
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Jan 31, 2014 05:59
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Rosscifer posted:No amount of "last time of Game of Thrones!" is going to make any unsullied connect Mr. Buff Rockpecks with skinny Lebanese guy. Again, like with Dario, just show new guy cutting a horse in half in the Previously on. All you need.
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Jan 31, 2014 07:03
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I don't think they even need to change anything. The horse decapitation scene was pretty memorable and that Gregor looks pretty close to new Gregor(minus 20 years). Tall, skinny Gregor had like one line in Harrenhal. I don't even know if anyone realized who that was.
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Jan 31, 2014 07:16
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There are set photos of him "lifting" (he's on a rig) some cowering guy and then of him swinging his sword, I'm sure they added in a scene just to show off how much of a terror he is since he hasn't had one since the horse killing.
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Jan 31, 2014 07:57
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GonSmithe posted:(he's on a rig) I don't remember the Mountain and the Queen of Thorns having sex in the books?  There's some thing coming on February 8th on HBO. It looks like it's going to be as a primer for the new season. It might cover the casting changes, to help out some people. The Daario recasting would've confused the hell out of me, if I hadn't read 100 articles/comments about it.
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Jan 31, 2014 09:29
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I think they did really well with season one's Mountain, because I expected all the show-only people I know to forget who he was, but if you say 'dude who chopped a horse in half' everyone's instantly like 'oh right, that guy.'
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Jan 31, 2014 10:56
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I really wish they could have kept that guy. Even if it meant writing some new Mountain material and/or moving his plot around to keep him where the action is.
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Jan 31, 2014 11:09
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I can't wait to see the Mountain v. Oberyn scene. It was so well-done in the books. Specifically, I thought it was obvious the Mountain would win, because Tyrion isn't going to escape false accusation invoking trial by combat twice-- that's just a boring story, but the way it was written, they managed to convince me that Oberyn had a chance, and then he inflicts a mortal wound on the Mountain. I just hope they can preserve that element in the show.
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PittTheElder posted:That's really not what that ending would be. The R = PTWP ending is "everyone is hosed because our political leaders were too petty and shortsighted to deal with a larger problem." Which you may recognize from our exact loving situation right now. Depending on where exactly you live, it works on multiple levels. George has gone on record to say that he finds it really important to not pull a "Lost" on his fans with Game of Thrones. Have no doubt the ending is going to be dark, but you don't write a book named "A dream of spring" and the original name being "A Time For Wolves" and give it the grimdark treatment. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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GonSmithe posted:There are set photos of him "lifting" (he's on a rig) some cowering guy and then of him swinging his sword, I'm sure they added in a scene just to show off how much of a terror he is since he hasn't had one since the horse killing. Given the lack of armour, I wouldn't be surprised if he's killing a sparring partner because he doesn't know when or how to stop.
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Jan 31, 2014 12:45
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Or he's murdering his squire for improperly selecting his post-workout wine. It's Greg Clegane, he'll kill anyone, anytime, anywhere. No reason necessary.
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Jan 31, 2014 15:12
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There are going to be a million casual viewers confusing Shae and Ellaria Sand
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Jan 31, 2014 16:10
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escape artist posted:I can't wait to see the Mountain v. Oberyn scene. It was so well-done in the books. Specifically, I thought it was obvious the Mountain would win, because Tyrion isn't going to escape false accusation invoking trial by combat twice-- that's just a boring story, but the way it was written, they managed to convince me that Oberyn had a chance, and then he inflicts a mortal wound on the Mountain. I just hope they can preserve that element in the show. I remember everything about reading that scene. Where I was, what time it was, what I was drinking...everything. And I couldn't turn the pages fast enough. I literally had to step away and tell myself to slow down so I wasn't tempted to skip to the end of the chapter to find out who wins. I really had no idea who would win because GRRM had done such a good job of impressing upon me that just about anything could happen. I imagine a lot of people felt that same excitement and surprise reading the Red Wedding, and while I wasn't exactly spoiled on it, somebody said "something HUGE happens halfway through book 3!!!" and my overthinking and over-conjecturing sort of ruined it and softened the blow a bit.
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timp posted:I remember everything about reading that scene. Where I was, what time it was, what I was drinking...everything. And I couldn't turn the pages fast enough. I literally had to step away and tell myself to slow down so I wasn't tempted to skip to the end of the chapter to find out who wins. I really had no idea who would win because GRRM had done such a good job of impressing upon me that just about anything could happen. I feel that way about the Red Wedding. I was on a train heading home from work. I put it down and a woman next to me asked what book I was reading, and would it be OK for her and her daughter. I said yes. I remember I wanted my friend to tell me when he had gotten to the red wedding, but I didn't want to let him know something big happens, so I told him to let me know what he thinks of the wedding, because there's a small background event that I think is important to the larger plot of the series. I think that was the best way to handle it.
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timp posted:I imagine a lot of people felt that same excitement and surprise reading the Red Wedding, and while I wasn't exactly spoiled on it, somebody said "something HUGE happens halfway through book 3!!!" and my overthinking and over-conjecturing sort of ruined it and softened the blow a bit. The red wedding in the books was spolied to me by the show (I only read the books later). But then, the red wedding in the show was spoiled to me on this forums, on that custom avatar prank. So I never really felt the impact of it.
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I'm kind of pissed they show Tyrion imprisoned in the previews. I hope all those scenes they show occur before the trial by combat, otherwise viewers are going to be pretty conscious of the fact that Oberyn loses.
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Jan 31, 2014 17:56
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Elias_Maluco posted:The red wedding in the books was spolied to me by the show (I only read the books later). But then, the red wedding in the show was spoiled to me on this forums, on that custom avatar prank. So I never really felt the impact of it. Yeah, I had that poo poo happen to me, not 30 minutes before the episode aired on the Sunday night. Some oval office kept PMing more and more spoilers (Tywin and Shae's deaths, for one) after that, too. So I knew Tyrion was going to somehow survive even if he was condemned to die.
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escape artist posted:Yeah, I had that poo poo happen to me, not 30 minutes before the episode aired on the Sunday night. Some oval office kept PMing more and more spoilers (Tywin and Shae's deaths, for one) after that, too. So I knew Tyrion was going to somehow survive even if he was condemned to die. That's when I said "well, gently caress it then, Im going to read the drat books". I just got tired of having to worry about spoilers. Even before that, I had Zombie-Cat spoiled to me when I had the amazing idea of googling "brotherhood without banners".
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Jan 31, 2014 19:03
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The chapters leading up to and including Joffrey's death are the most well-written chapters in GoT, so y'all did yourselves a favor by picking up the books before the show ruined it for you.
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Jan 31, 2014 19:08
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Joff's death was such a fantastic 'you've given me exactly what I wanted, but now I don't want it anymore!' moment. You spend so long wishing for a kid to die, and then the kid dies and you're thinking 'poo poo, I'm an rear end in a top hat for wanting this.'
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Lovechop posted:Joff's death was such a fantastic 'you've given me exactly what I wanted, but now I don't want it anymore!' moment. You spend so long wishing for a kid to die, and then the kid dies and you're thinking 'poo poo, I'm an rear end in a top hat for wanting this.' I was actually pretty happy with his death, stupid arrogant prick, he was really pushing it. I hated everything he did to Tyrion in the wedding, I wanted to kill him myself.
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colonel_korn posted:Huh, good catch. That does look like Needle, so either Sandor is hiding a mortal injury incredibly well, or the chronology of events is getting shaken up a bit. They did say the television show would divert from the books in some places, didn't they? If one of those divergences is that Sandor Clegane doesn't die for a while longer, I'd actually not mind.
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James R posted:They did say the television show would divert from the books in some places, didn't they? This sentence makes no sense to me because Sandor Clegane doesn't die at all 
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Lovechop posted:Joff's death was such a fantastic 'you've given me exactly what I wanted, but now I don't want it anymore!' moment. You spend so long wishing for a kid to die, and then the kid dies and you're thinking 'poo poo, I'm an rear end in a top hat for wanting this.' I couldn't go to sleep for hours, laughing about his last words of wanting to see Tyrion ride the pig.
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Elias_Maluco posted:I was actually pretty happy with his death, stupid arrogant prick, he was really pushing it. Yes the events were so great they decided to keep revisiting it during the last book!
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Lovechop posted:Joff's death was such a fantastic 'you've given me exactly what I wanted, but now I don't want it anymore!' moment. You spend so long wishing for a kid to die, and then the kid dies and you're thinking 'poo poo, I'm an rear end in a top hat for wanting this.' Your reaction is incorrect. I think the turnaround George did was giving us what we wanted and then immediately throwing Tyrion under the bus at the end of the chapter. We are supposed to feel nothing but glee about Joffrey.
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I had a friend spoil the Red Wedding for me back in 2012, among a few other things that I had forgotten, but he also counter-spoiled Joffrey's demise which made it so much crazier for me. He told me that Joffrey ends up losing an eye (this is actually foreshadowed in the book so I thought it was true) and goes on to be a better leader in battle than Robb. I ended up having to read the end of that chapter four or five times because I couldn't believe what I had just read, it was awesome. Also, I found out that one of my neighbors is a completely unspoiled TV only person. I can't wait to watch the show with him once it starts back up.
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rypakal posted:Your reaction is incorrect. I disagree completely. Tyrion sees the fear in his eyes before he dies. I think we're supposed to feel that death is horrifying for any person, for every family, even for that useless violent little poo poo and his horrible power-hungry mother. It would have been super easy for the book to tonally make him being purple-faced into humor, but instead he claws at his own throat and Cersei cries over his corpse. It's ghoulish and grim and we get lots of detail about the agony Joff goes through before he dies. He could have just dropped dead; going through the agony of death (and Cersei's agony) makes a pretty clear point, for me. It's a lot like when you say "gently caress that traitorous little poo poo Theon, he deserves whatever he gets" and then he gets made into Reek.
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