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Meh, people shouldn't consider games failures because they didn't meet WoW's popularity. Much of WoW's popularity is being in the right place at the right time and it has rode that momentum for a long time. A good portion of it's playerbase will not play another MMO, so games that try to steal WoW players can hurt themselves. A big box price combined with a sub is pretty hefty these days though. I hope they keep the box price to a minimum. I don't think subs are a problem if the game is good, but I have my concerns in other areas.
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Has there been any mention of a downscaling or sidekicking system? I understand they're targeting zone content for specific levels, but I am curious if higher level players can group with lower level friends & not utterly demolish everything in one hit, for example
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Gerudo Rivera posted:Has there been any mention of a downscaling or sidekicking system? I understand they're targeting zone content for specific levels, but I am curious if higher level players can group with lower level friends & not utterly demolish everything in one hit, for example Yes, you can manually choose to scale your level down, it's called Mentoring in this game. You can also scale up if you are a little under leveled for a dungeon or whatever. http://www.wildstarfans.net/2013/05/introducing-new-wildstar-features.html
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Yes, you can manually choose to scale your level down, it's called Mentoring in this game. You can also scale up if you are a little under leveled for a dungeon or whatever. http://www.wildstarfans.net/2013/05/introducing-new-wildstar-features.html Thanks! Thought I'd heard something about it, but couldn't remember the terms. Rallying sounds like a good balance.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Yes, you can manually choose to scale your level down, it's called Mentoring in this game. You can also scale up if you are a little under leveled for a dungeon or whatever. http://www.wildstarfans.net/2013/05/introducing-new-wildstar-features.html No joke, this might be the best thing I've heard about the game yet. Ever since playing City of Heroes when it launched so many years ago, I've always been dumbfounded by how 99% of other MMO's don't steal a page from their scaling system. I play MMO's with a group of 2-3 friends, and we all have different amounts of playtime and leveling speed. I'm so sick of having to have special characters that we only play together. Having like 3 characters and never getting anything done on any of them is the worst. If I can blast way ahead of them, but still bump myself down to hang out when they're on, that's awesome.
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Ruder posted:No joke, this might be the best thing I've heard about the game yet. Ever since playing City of Heroes when it launched so many years ago, I've always been dumbfounded by how 99% of other MMO's don't steal a page from their scaling system. This is exactly how I feel, and I'm looking forward to being able to really concentrate on one or two characters rather than a stable of alts that I don't really care about.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Yes, you can manually choose to scale your level down, it's called Mentoring in this game. You can also scale up if you are a little under leveled for a dungeon or whatever. http://www.wildstarfans.net/2013/05/introducing-new-wildstar-features.html Hmm. I'm gonna have to go chat with Gaff about his quote in that article, because I'm 90% sure up-scaling doesn't exist for dungeons (it was probably a really old quote because it likely did do that at some point). Rallying basically means "play at the level we want you to play the content at". So for PvP, it scales you to the top of your level bracket, for PvE, it scales you down if you're overleveled. You can "override" the auto-scaling for dungeons if you walk in manually instead of using the Group Finder, but by default you'll always be scaled down (for example) to level 20 when doing a Normal Stormtalon PUG. And mentoring does exist, but you can't just do it on your own; you have to be grouped with someone else that you can then scale down to.
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Pryce posted:Hmm. I'm gonna have to go chat with Gaff about his quote in that article, because I'm 90% sure up-scaling doesn't exist for dungeons (it was probably a really old quote because it likely did do that at some point). Rallying basically means "play at the level we want you to play the content at". So for PvP, it scales you to the top of your level bracket, for PvE, it scales you down if you're overleveled. You can "override" the auto-scaling for dungeons if you walk in manually instead of using the Group Finder, but by default you'll always be scaled down (for example) to level 20 when doing a Normal Stormtalon PUG. That last part is a little disappointing, I'd kinda hoped you'd just ripped of Guild Wars 2 wholesale in that regard.
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VanillaGorilla posted:Speculating, although it is a little odd that there's been no preorder campaign this late in the game if they're still targetting Spring. Everything that's been streamed, etc. makes it looks like the game is pretty polished and complete, so it's kind of curious that we're not seeing a bigger ramp up to launch. I take it as a good sign that they have not announced a release date yet.
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grrarg posted:Who knows what. You cannot judge the entire game by what has been streamed so far since they are not allowed to stream over level 15. If they want the game to be a long term success, they will dedicate at least a couple of months to testing the "Elder Game" level cap. Otherwise, it will be SW:TOR all over again, where people played through the leveling game once or twice then quit due to an ill-conceived and untested end game. At the same time, Spring '14 really is a sweet spot for release and they have to know that. Blizzard will still be cooking WoD by April/May and they'll be past the big March releases. People will be antsy to try something new. Wait too long and then they'll have to launch against their biggest competitor right out of the gate and that will be bad news bears. Hitting that April window will be part of the reason TESO gets great box sales, regardless of the bad hype they've gotten.
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Pryce posted:Hmm. I'm gonna have to go chat with Gaff about his quote in that article, because I'm 90% sure up-scaling doesn't exist for dungeons (it was probably a really old quote because it likely did do that at some point). It comes from a quote on May 15, 2013. So yes, an old one.
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grrarg posted:If they want the game to be a long term success, they will dedicate at least a couple of months to testing the "Elder Game" level cap. Otherwise, it will be SW:TOR all over again, where people played through the leveling game once or twice then quit due to an ill-conceived and untested end game. Funnily enough, that's what the entire purpose of our next beta patch is. Details to leak later this week :P
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Pryce posted:Funnily enough, that's what the entire purpose of our next beta patch is. Details to leak later this week :P YAY! can't wait
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So I had read a few pages back that beta keys go out every Monday; is this still true or have they stopped shipping out beta keys for now? Not that I'll assume I'll get one, but curious if the minimal chances are even there still.
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Pryce posted:Funnily enough, that's what the entire purpose of our next beta patch is. Details to leak later this week :P Very excited to hear there is info coming!
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I really appreciate how Wildstar is including so much for different players. I like that they don't see endgame as PvP or Raiding and that there's theoretically a lot to do, especially for old wow veterans who are now in grad school like me :P
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Cephid posted:So I had read a few pages back that beta keys go out every Monday; is this still true or have they stopped shipping out beta keys for now? They're doing them every Monday still, or at least they have been. They tweet when they've gone out (@team_wildstar).
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GlazedMcGuffin posted:They're doing them every Monday still, or at least they have been. They tweet when they've gone out (@team_wildstar). According to their twitter they went out 38 minutes ago. God damnit.
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I haven't received an email from wildstar since November, should I try signing up again?
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VanillaGorilla posted:Hitting that April window will be part of the reason TESO gets great box sales, regardless of the bad hype they've gotten. I'd just about Toxx myself on a roll out of the beta for the bliz expansion pack a month +/- of TESOs release. Probably after, putting a pretty tiny window to release between everything coming out. Pryce posted:Funnily enough, that's what the entire purpose of our next beta patch is. Details to leak later this week :P Genuinely curious on how the gear reward structure is, and where 40 man raiding sits on that scale. Somehow I think it's just to be mechanics testing though.
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Just got a beta invite. Are there multiple servers? If so, which server and which faction are Goons playing on? (Please say space nazis)
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Only the one server, and there's the Something Awful Motorcycle Club (Reprobate Originals) on the exile side. Whisper unicoroner or wiggans. Are there any volunteers to start up the SAMC: Occupying Kings chapter on the Dominion side?
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*edit* Turns out there is a presence! Will be checking em out on Exiles tonight.
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GlazedMcGuffin posted:Only the one server, and there's the Something Awful Motorcycle Club (Reprobate Originals) on the exile side. Whisper unicoroner or wiggans. If there is no official SA dominion guild, I'd probably be willing to create one. How are the faction rules? Can you create for both factions or do you get locked in?
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GlazedMcGuffin posted:gently caress yeah, buddy. I assume you mean tomorrow (maintenance monday). I've forgotten about this for the past 2 Mondays. Every time I get home from work, all ready to play, and I try to login I get the "No realms available" message and I start crying 
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Mordiceius posted:If there is no official SA dominion guild, I'd probably be willing to create one. I just realized "Outlaw Kings" would make more sense. Whatever, as long as it spells something stupid. And no, you can create characters for either side. Doh004 posted:I've forgotten about this for the past 2 Mondays. Every time I get home from work, all ready to play, and I try to login I get the "No realms available" message and I start crying you won't be crying anymore when you're riding with SAMCRO. Except on Mondays. I guess not much will change for you, really. 
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People are getting into the beta that applied after me and also didn't even do the first system and then rubbing it in my face. It makes me sad and frustrated but I'm sure the wait will be worth it. Might have to post in the key begging thread if another month goes by. Also we are finally getting a dev speak on warplots right? At least thats what the Customization one hinted at.
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Asema posted:People are getting into the beta that applied after me and also didn't even do the first system and then rubbing it in my face. It makes me sad and frustrated but I'm sure the wait will be worth it. Might have to post in the key begging thread if another month goes by. Yeah I've pretty much given up on getting a key at this point (applied for one during PAX East last year). I'm still going to check this game out when it gets released, but until then I've tried to not get too hyped by all the dev streams and media releases.
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Cephid posted:So I had read a few pages back that beta keys go out every Monday; is this still true or have they stopped shipping out beta keys for now? They still do, just what would seem very small amounts. Xun posted:I haven't received an email from wildstar since November, should I try signing up again? Why not? It's not exactly like they can extra-not invite you.
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Calihan posted:They still do, just what would seem very small amounts. But what if after waiting ten months I lose my spot in the queue by re-applying??!
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I know you're being facetious, but for those who don't know: There is no queue; it's random with a weight towards people who filled out the Winter survey.
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On the topic of beta access if everyone wants to keep theirs they should read the thread about the new patch in the general forum.
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Phoix posted:On the topic of beta access if everyone wants to keep theirs they should read the thread about the new patch in the general forum. What does it say?
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Toasta posted:Yeah I've pretty much given up on getting a key at this point (applied for one during PAX East last year). I'm still going to check this game out when it gets released, but until then I've tried to not get too hyped by all the dev streams and media releases. I have given up on waiting for a key as well, but I cant seem to stop myself from being excited. Still, plenty to play in the meantime.
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Cocoham posted:What does it say? It says something that people with beta access should read and not post publically about because NDA. 
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Cocoham posted:What does it say? Good stuff.
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I do have Beta access, I just don't have access to my account right now because of my email. I'll look at it tomorrow I guess.
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Cocoham posted:What does it say? If you aren't level 32 by mid-march you get kicked out of the beta. Or more accurately, you aren't guaranteed a place in the beta if you aren't level 32.
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