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new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

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Morbid Hound

Marathanes posted:


In addition to those, R.A. Salvatore novels, assorted other D&D related novels and Mercedes Lackey novels occupied a great part of my adolescent to young adult reading. I don't read them anymore. Somehow, the distinction between good fantasy / Sci-Fi stories (Tolkien, Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time, Stephen King's Dark Tower Series, Heinlein, Haldeman, etc) and bad ones never really became clear to me until I passed the age of 25 or so.

It's surprising how much a difference fallible, non-mary sue characters make.

Also, Boone's Farm wine.

As a teenager, I was amazed by how awesome it was to throw a bottle in the freezer and have a diabetic seizure inducing alchoholic slushie in about an hour. I tried some a year ago and couldn't finish a single glass. Scotch and beer for me these days.

Yeah I read all the Drizzt books too. I tried to pick it back up with Gauntlgrym or whatever but I just couldn't. One of the main bad guys has a staff that breaks into nunchucks for chrissakes.

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Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Evanescence. I thought their music was so dark and emotional. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Man.

Weldon Pemberton posted:

I bet I liked shittier anime than you! Oh, to be a annoying 14-year-old weeaboo again. Now I'm just an annoying 24-year-old non-weeaboo.

Holy poo poo, even I was too good for Weiss Kreuz.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

remigious posted:

Count me as one more ex-gaia online person. I spent some actual money on that dumb poo poo :(
Also, Goosebumps books.

Ohhhh, Goosebumps! Yes! A goon recently directed me to this site, wherein the author reviews each and every goddamn Goosebumps book:
http://www.bloggerbeware.com/

Memoriiiies~

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames

Devil Wears Wings posted:

Power metal and prog-metal: I don't even want to elaborate. Just a terrible decision all around. Thankfully, discovering shoegaze, trip hop, and modern indie rock pulled me out of that cesspool.

I'm curious what prog-metal you're talking about, because a lot of prog is still awesome. If you mean the symphonic/theatrical kind that basically sounds like a Broadway musical threw up on the Trans-Siberian Orchestra fronted by a guy in a train conductor's coat, I'm with you there.

AcetylCoA!
Dec 25, 2010

Marathanes posted:


In addition to those, R.A. Salvatore novels, assorted other D&D related novels and Mercedes Lackey novels occupied a great part of my adolescent to young adult reading. I don't read them anymore. Somehow, the distinction between good fantasy / Sci-Fi stories (Tolkien, Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time, Stephen King's Dark Tower Series, Heinlein, Haldeman, etc) and bad ones never really became clear to me until I passed the age of 25 or so.

It's surprising how much a difference fallible, non-mary sue characters make.

Also, Boone's Farm wine.

As a teenager, I was amazed by how awesome it was to throw a bottle in the freezer and have a diabetic seizure inducing alchoholic slushie in about an hour. I tried some a year ago and couldn't finish a single glass. Scotch and beer for me these days.

I loves Mercedes Lackey, still do to an extent - barring the Winds Trilogy. gently caress Elspeth and gently caress the Talydras fetishization. The Shin'a-in are cooler anyway :colbert:
One of these days I'll get around to re-reading Ann McCaffery - see if the books are as good as they were when I was 10. I suspect that the Animorphs didn't age well and the TV show was really crappy and I don't remember why I liked the theme song so much.

Supersonic Shine
Oct 13, 2012
Nobody said Naruto? I watched it religiously when I was in my mid-teens, but somewhere along the line, the rear end-pulls just got way too much for me.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Devil Wears Wings posted:

Power metal and prog-metal: I don't even want to elaborate. Just a terrible decision all around. Thankfully, discovering shoegaze, trip hop, and modern indie rock pulled me out of that cesspool.

Nope, you've just gone deeper in. I like all of these, but I know I'm weird.

However, I have quit lovely post-grunge music like Creed and Nickleback. To my defence, I mostly listened to radio before I discovered the CD section in public libraries.

I used to be really into Formula 1 racing as a pre-teen. Then I realized I had better things to do than watch dudes with too much disposable income zip around a track for two hours on a Sunday morning.

Nowadays I also have a diverse wardrobe that contains very little black clothes. Though to be honest, my colour choices mostly came about from having no income as a teenager. I had to pick clothes that matched the ones I already had. Black goes with everything, so I dressed in black.

I also stopped overclocking computers because it doesn't make a difference worth the effort nowadays. I did manage to make SimCity 3000 run a bit smoother on our computer though.

Thinking back, having been poor (relatively speaking) saved me from buying into a lot of stupid fads.

Irving
Jun 21, 2003

AcetylCoA! posted:

I loves Mercedes Lackey, still do to an extent - barring the Winds Trilogy. gently caress Elspeth and gently caress the Talydras fetishization. The Shin'a-in are cooler anyway :colbert:
One of these days I'll get around to re-reading Ann McCaffery - see if the books are as good as they were when I was 10. I suspect that the Animorphs didn't age well and the TV show was really crappy and I don't remember why I liked the theme song so much.

You cannot possibly like whatever series had the guy who was in love with his horse. That was around the time when I gave up on Mercedes Lackey entirely.

[edit] I guess it was just a single book, but it was enough for me to not read any more from her. http://www.mercedeslackey.com/books/burn1.html

Irving has a new favorite as of 01:21 on Feb 4, 2014

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

Jasper Tin Neck posted:

Nowadays I also have a diverse wardrobe that contains very little black clothes. Though to be honest, my colour choices mostly came about from having no income as a teenager. I had to pick clothes that matched the ones I already had. Black goes with everything, so I dressed in black.

Same here, I used to insist on wearing nothing but blacks and greys not because I was some emo kid who listened to lovely music or anything. Just that those two colors really do go with everything and it isn't hard to toss on a black shirt and jeans and be ready to roll. I was a lazy teenager.

Then I discovered that blues and greens look really good on me (any guy looking to shake-up his wardrobe, start with green and you'll go from there) and now I notice just how...bland male fashion is because everyone wears dark clothing and jeans.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

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AcetylCoA! posted:

I loves Mercedes Lackey, still do to an extent - barring the Winds Trilogy. gently caress Elspeth and gently caress the Talydras fetishization. The Shin'a-in are cooler anyway :colbert:

That Wing Commander novel she did with Ellen Guon was enjoyable, but I haven't read anything else of hers. I take it a WW2-in-space military sci-fi novel isn't her usual style.

Pinball
Sep 15, 2006




Bargearse posted:

That Wing Commander novel she did with Ellen Guon was enjoyable, but I haven't read anything else of hers. I take it a WW2-in-space military sci-fi novel isn't her usual style.

No. Her usual style - besides the 'man in love with horse' novel which made me cry hysterically when I read it at the age of eleven because blah blah heroic sacrifice - is to have a gay man with silver eyes who loves fashion be shat upon by the universe because. God, the Magic trilogy was hysterically awful.

Anne McCaffrey's Pern is not much better. Very rapey, actually.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Karate Bastard posted:

I am like soooooo torn between going to projectaon and digging up some right juicy examples of swarthshaming to post here, and actually just not, because goddamn. Knowing me I probably will.

Oh, I definitely believe you that it's there, I just don't remember it.


Marathanes posted:

Somehow, the distinction between good fantasy / Sci-Fi stories (Tolkien, Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time, Stephen King's Dark Tower Series, Heinlein, Haldeman, etc) and bad ones never really became clear to me until I passed the age of 25 or so.

Ha.

The Monkey Man
Jun 10, 2012

HERD U WERE TALKIN SHIT
Illusion of Gaia has not held up. It was clearly rushed, what with the Mu area being poorly designed (you have to backtrack a lot if you want to turn into Freedan at one point), and some plot points are poorly developed (Seth getting turned into a sea monster who never appears onscreen, the assassin who gets built up and then killed off without the player getting to fight him).

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Pinball posted:

No. Her usual style - besides the 'man in love with horse' novel which made me cry hysterically when I read it at the age of eleven because blah blah heroic sacrifice - is to have a gay man with silver eyes who loves fashion be shat upon by the universe because. God, the Magic trilogy was hysterically awful.

Anne McCaffrey's Pern is not much better. Very rapey, actually.

I hate McCaffrey's works far more than Lackey's. At least Lackey's are hilarious.

"Woah, people are so surprised we're in love because Companions and their heroes traditionally don't fall in love!" "Yes right because she is a horse??"

Thinky Whale
Aug 2, 2012

All that most maddens and torments; all that stirs up the lees of things; all truth with malice in it; all that cracks the sinews and cakes the brain; all the subtle demonisms of life and thought; all evil were visibly personified, and made practically assailable in Fry.

The Monkey Man posted:

Illusion of Gaia has not held up. It was clearly rushed, what with the Mu area being poorly designed (you have to backtrack a lot if you want to turn into Freedan at one point), and some plot points are poorly developed (Seth getting turned into a sea monster who never appears onscreen, the assassin who gets built up and then killed off without the player getting to fight him).

Seth was eaten by a fishmonster, got absorbed into the monster's consciousness, then told his friends his story by slamming the fishbody into the walls of an underwater tunnel in Morse code. Illuson of Gaia ruled.

I forgot about how the assassin died. I do remember the grandma talking about destroying somebody's digestion with a poison marsupial pie. but I think that was somebody else.

Funny that somebody brought up Wheel of Time, because I was about to mention that. There's a lot of genuinely interesting depth and worldbuilding there, and I always really liked the concept of a hero who is inevitably going to wreck poo poo in the process of fixing it, but even for teenage me it was harder and harder to ignore that what RJ actually wanted to talk about was, "women, right?"

Pinball
Sep 15, 2006




Pick posted:

I hate McCaffrey's works far more than Lackey's. At least Lackey's are hilarious.

"Woah, people are so surprised we're in love because Companions and their heroes traditionally don't fall in love!" "Yes right because she is a horse??"

And then everyone is just expected to accept the man-horse affair, and anyone who's disgusted by it is represented as a bad person. But then it turns out that the horses have the souls of people so it's all okay, I guess?

McCaffrey's were just disturbingly awful. 'YOU WILL SLEEP WITH THIS PERSON BECAUSE HIS DRAGON CAUGHT YOURS, AND IF HE SLAPS YOU IT'S OKAY. It doesn't matter whether you like him or not.' And then it turned out that McCaffrey thought men became gay through anal rape.

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib
I was babysitting a while back and the kids had some Goosebumps books so I read one after they went to bed (took less than an hour to read it)...what was I thinking?

I also really liked wide leg jeans like JNCOS and platform sneakers.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Adolf Hitler.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Henchman of Santa posted:

Beast Wars. You know how sometimes you watch a cartoon from your childhood and you like it because of nostalgia and/or it's actually well-written for what it is, like Hey Arnold or the Rugrats? Well fire up Beast Wars on Netflix some time and see how far off it is from that level. The animation is literally the worst I've ever seen in any medium, even relative to the time.

But Beast Wars is actually well-written for what it is! :colbert: ...Not that Season 1 isn't rough as hell. :v:


Two bizarre obsessions from my childhood that eventually passed: Dilbert (well before Adams became a messed-up weirdo) and, somewhat inexplicably, the lovely Steven King miniseries Rose Red. I found a used DVD of Rose Red and it became apparent that it's much better when you're a dumb kid that barely knows what's going on.

Promoted Pawn
Jun 8, 2005

oops


Marilyn Manson - I practically lived and breathed Antichrist Superstar during high school. Looking back on it now, while it's still a pretty good album (though this may just be nostalgia talking, it's hard to tell without an outside perspective), there's lots of things now that embarrass me about it.

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - For about 5 years or so, this and its sequels were pretty much the only online game I played. While I think MW1 and MW2 are still near-masterpieces of the genre, the series as a whole has transmogrified into something much uglier. In MW 1 & 2, it was possible for a single player to have a huge impact on a match, simply by playing tightly and intelligently. As the series progressed, this slipped away as the map design and mechanics became lazier and less focused on outwitting your opponents and more just about groups of people running into each other, shooting a dude or two, dying, respawning, and doing it all over again. The idea of a defendable position just disappeared. It degenerated into a reflex test, and one with pretty bad net code to boot. After Black Ops 2, I finally just gave up on the franchise and had to admit that the smart gameplay and design of the originals was never coming back.

MinistryofLard
Mar 22, 2013


Goblin babies did nothing wrong.


Zoids. The series was badly written trashy anime designed exclusively to sell model kits to children, but I'll be damned if I didn't love it anyway.

Seconding goosebumps, though I don't regret it as much. I used to get through one in about two hours back when I was a kid, it probably contributed to making me read a whole lot more these days.

verhulce
Mar 3, 2007
Saabs, Alfas, and heroin.

Vexin
Jan 13, 2014

natetimm posted:

Some good ones for you older goons in your 30s:
He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. No, I don't mean the reboot, I mean the originals. It was just so goddamn 1980s and hasn't aged well. I can still sit down and watch an episode of GI Joe or Transformers and feel a bit nostalgic, but I am stupefied by how much I was into loving He-Man and now can't stand it. The entire cartoon is like a ginat homo-erotic love letter to bodybuilders.

One night my sister and I decided to watch all of the specials that saw us through our childhood Christmases--very few of them held up, but the only one that was truly unwatchable was the He-Man and She-Ra Christmas Special. The script made me cringe more than Batman and Robin's (at least I realized that was terrible right away).

I have a lot of Star Wars-related shame: I made my parents suffer through endless repeats of the Ewok cartoon show and The Ewok Adventure and couldn't bring myself to accept that The Phantom Menace was really quite awful until fall or winter of 1999. I'm sure the X-Wing books I read back then don't hold up either, but I haven't had the courage to revisit them.

Dean of Swing
Feb 22, 2012






Who needs a girlfriend when you got dragons who can brief lightning and toxic gas.

Part of Everything
Feb 1, 2005

He clenched his teeh and walked out of the study
KISS.

Don't blame me, it was the 80's, I was young, and this was before Gene Simmons' face started looking like a catcher's mitt.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


College is a place for experimentation. Some people experiment with promiscuous sex, others with mind altering drugs. I was a Libertarian.

That world view began to unravel and I was overwhelmed by cognitive dissonance, and the overt racism of most candidates that came through in their immigration policy taking points was the last straw. There was also a local candidate I had supported who wrote for a local paper and flat out claimed that the 08-09 financial crisis didn't happen. What a waste of a few years of votes.

I should have gone with the sex or drugs.

GWBBQ has a new favorite as of 05:14 on Feb 4, 2014

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


The thing: NationStates.net

What is it? A nation-simulator game, sort of like CyberNations, except much more simplified; you just answer little questionnaires (called "Issues") every day and those determine the makeup of your nation. The heavy focus is on role-playing in the forums.

Why it's terrible: The moderation loving sucks. Just last year they had two open pedophiles (one of whom practically admitted to sex tourism in Thailand and another who said kiddie porn shouldn't be illegal) and banned neither. The excuse for the former was especially ridiculous: basically, since he didn't outright say, "yup I gently caress Thai kids :pedo:" the moderators blew it off. No, I'm not kidding; read it and weep. Of course even without that it still sucks; since the standards for trolling are so strict (you basically have to say "ALL X SHOULD BE RAPED AND MURDERED") and standards for flaming are so lenient (any insult harsher than "doody pants" and the like gets the hammer brought down), the place is infested with the gutter of humanity: fascists, sexists, Jucheists, Stalinists, Tea Partiers, etc. etc. and anybody who goes too far in calling them out gets banned or deleted.

Why I loved it: I was loving obsessed with politics when I discovered this (yes, yes, don't shoot me). At some times I noticed mod judgments that were too lenient/too harsh, but I didn't recognize them as endemic to the site until late 2013, when AH.com poster "Jello_Biafra" brought up the kid-fucker and I finally decided to quit the site. I've not gone back ever since, and I stand by that.

Captain Lavender
Oct 21, 2010

verb the adjective noun

I used to think Gamefaqs message boards were pretty cool when they were the only forums I had ever seen, in like 2000. I was a VET in the Poll of the Day forum :smuggo:. Then I found out about any other forum anywhere.

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


Linkin Park when I was younger :smithicide:

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Dean of Swing posted:







Who needs a girlfriend when you got dragons who can brief lightning and toxic gas.

Right in the childhood! Oof.

Alpacalips Now
Oct 4, 2013
Until I was like 16 (2005), I thought George W. Bush was a good president. After that, I went through a short Alex Jones phase that ended when I realized he wasn't any cooler or more enlightened than my racist, paranoid, gun fetishist uncle. Not sure which is more embarrassing.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
I unironically liked Shadow of the Giant by Orson Scott Card and wholeheartedly bought into the not-so-thinly-veiled Islamophobia present in the book when I was 13 :negative:

The whole "I'm special, I'm just misunderstood, I'm actually better than everyone else around me" poo poo from Ender's Game and related books really appealed to me as a lovely teenager. At least I didn't discover Atlas Shrugged as a high schooler.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

The whole "I'm special, I'm just misunderstood, I'm actually better than everyone else around me" poo poo from Ender's Game and related books really appealed to me as a lovely teenager. At least I didn't discover Atlas Shrugged as a high schooler.

I don't know anybody who became a Card fan as an adult, only in their teens. It catches a lot of people that way.

To contribute, those Disney Afternoon cartoons don't hold up well when you pick up the DVD set for nostalgia's sake. Take TaleSpin for instance: I still think the concept is pretty awesome, and the multipart series pilot deserves its Emmy, but the series proper is garbage in execution.

I haven't got the heart to watch Darkwing Duck or Gargoyles again. I don't think I could stand the disappointment.

Jenny Angel
Oct 24, 2010

Out of Control
Hard to Regulate
Anything Goes!
Lipstick Apathy

frajaq posted:

Linkin Park when I was younger :smithicide:

Put the gun down, buddy. Your angst is only making Linkin Park stronger. :smith:

For real though I was there too, and on a certain level I actually respect the guys a lot. They could've made the same exact album five times and been really successful, but instead they only made the same exact album three times and then branched out into new sounds that they generally did poorly to decently at.

I liked a lot of lovely nu-metal in my early teens. All these terrible one-hit wonders like Taproot. Linkin Park is the only one of those bands that I look back on fondly nowadays.

EDIT: Also the rapper from Linkin Park did the English-version soundtrack for The Raid and that movie is based as gently caress.

Stairs
Oct 13, 2004

BatteredFeltFedora posted:


To contribute, those Disney Afternoon cartoons don't hold up well when you pick up the DVD set for nostalgia's sake. Take TaleSpin for instance: I still think the concept is pretty awesome, and the multipart series pilot deserves its Emmy, but the series proper is garbage in execution.

I haven't got the heart to watch Darkwing Duck or Gargoyles again. I don't think I could stand the disappointment.

oh God oh God my childhood.

I was loving obsessed with Roger Rabbit, Tale Spin, Tiny Toons, and Darkwing Duck to the point of memorizing the loving voice actor cast lists. It's been twenty years and I still occasionally go "Oh! That's Rob Paulsen narrating this AFV knockoff I'm currently watching!" or "Ninja Turtles just isn't the same without Townsend Coleman" or "Hey, that pigeon is Frank Welker!"

I also used to draw self made characters inspired by the designs of these shows, and it was wonderful until I discovered furries. Anthropomorphic animals should never have sex. Ever.
But I did recently rematch the Darkwing Duck pilot and it's still loving ace.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Wheel of Time, Sword of Truth, other endless tacky fantasy books back in middleschool.
Also, Dragonball Z like any other 90's kid, although to be fair that show is utterly hilarious to watch now.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!
If it makes you feel any better, Who Framed Roger Rabbit still holds up very well with the VFX being astounding and as an adult I picked up on a lot of things like Valient's alcoholism being a plot-driver at times (I was a kid).

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben

BatteredFeltFedora posted:

I haven't got the heart to watch Darkwing Duck or Gargoyles again. I don't think I could stand the disappointment.

I made the mistake of trying to rewatch Captain N and the Super Mario Bros. Super Show a while back, and I have no idea how I found those entertaining even as a Nintendo-obsessed child. They're cringe-inducing to the point of being unwatchable.

Gargoyles, though, used to be my favorite show. I'm hoping it's held up well like Batman: The Animated Series, but it was just another Ninja Turtles, right? With occasional Shakespeare references to make the precocious kids feel smart.

I also had an awkward pre-teen crush on Demona:



But nowadays that's so normal it's downright boring.

Bimmi
Nov 8, 2009


someday
but not today

Marathanes posted:

Also, Boone's Farm wine.

Aaaww, babby's first bum wine. When I got my first place I kept my BF and Cook's empties arranged artistically in the kitchen alcove and thought I was pretty drat slick.

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ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




In early high school, nearly half my wardrobe came from Hot Topic. Overpriced cheaply-made trenchcoats, pants with studs and pointless straps, Doc Marten rip-offs, and Invader ZIM t-shirts were my typical outfit. On top of all, I attempted to grow a luscious head of Viking hair. My hair is curly as gently caress, so I wound up looking like a mall goth version of Samwise Gamgee. I also got heavily into Black Metal, including the stuff made by honest-to-God neo-nazis.

:negative:

I now dress extremely conservatively and listen almost exclusively to classical music. Fun fact: I got into folk music through folk metal and deciding that I really liked the folk elements of the music more than anything else. Go figure.

Also, Nthing Star Wars Novels, although I maintain to this day that the Timothy Zahn novels are still top quality.

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