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I finally finished a run of The Sims! It had some mistakes and wound up being just under 31 minutes. I lost more than 2 to a bad run at making friends so sub-30 is a reasonable estimate without great luck and play. Still uploading on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-iMPDiewx8 Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/drdos0016/b/500827844
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Brett824 posted:I guess the new Paper Mario thing that got linked earlier is causing a bit of a kerfuffle That's pretty much how it goes with most games. Having a periodically rising skill ceiling is what keeps games interesting.
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Feb 5, 2014 03:21
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So using/not using that skip should be based off whether A) The Runner can do it and B) If it fits the category (someone said it would mess up how All Cards works?) A) is the biggest issue. Frame Perfect jumps are already a huge pain, but 7 of them without a setup? Banning it is dumb though, but I can also see how frustrating it would be to do runs up until that skip and try to get it in the first few tries and resetting if it fails. It's kind of like Pie with Blue House Skip for the longest time. It wasn't fun and killed his motivation since he felt runs would get to that one trick and his final time was mostly dependent on hitting it early. If a solid setup is never found then AnatomyZ can do whatever he wants really. His main issue will be someone else getting WR with a sloppier run but hitting that trick, since he'll have to start incorporating it (Someone said it saved a huge amount of time?)
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Feb 5, 2014 03:22
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Studio posted:So using/not using that skip should be based off whether
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Feb 5, 2014 03:31
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Yeah I have total empathy for "Ugg I don't want to do that...." and then not doing it. I have no empathy for someone saying "Ugg I don't want to do that...lets ban it so none of us have to, all in favor?".
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Feb 5, 2014 03:33
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Dr. Dos posted:I finally finished a run of The Sims! It had some mistakes and wound up being just under 31 minutes. I lost more than 2 to a bad run at making friends so sub-30 is a reasonable estimate without great luck and play. Nice! Congrats on your...world record, I guess? I'm assuming nobody's ever done that before that fast. It looks like sub :30 is definitely possible with some refined menu movement and all that. I like the idea of this run, and I played the whole video, but I had to navigate away during the hot tub sequences and come back later. There's not much entertainment factor to a run like this, but I still respect the work you put into it and the (probably) WR that came from it, so good on you.
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Feb 5, 2014 04:33
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I agree with Pie, you could always make separate categories if you don't wanna do it, banning outright is wrong. I guess Anatomy is just very protective of his WR. Alteisen fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Feb 5, 2014 |
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Feb 5, 2014 04:43
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timp posted:Nice! Congrats on your...world record, I guess? I'm assuming nobody's ever done that before that fast. It looks like sub :30 is definitely possible with some refined menu movement and all that. I think SkeletonBill has the wr, he's the only other person I know who runs it (someone else does but i dont remember who they are) but bill is a dumb rear end and stopped running it edit: also that paper mario trick is dumb as gently caress but they should just do what the hot line miami runners do and make a different category with it cuz it's too hard for them
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Feb 5, 2014 05:21
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heeheex2 posted:I think SkeletonBill has the wr, he's the only other person I know who runs it (someone else does but i dont remember who they are) but bill is a dumb rear end and stopped running it Thats what All Cards basically was in the first place. You can't just keep making new categories people will catch on eventually.
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Feb 5, 2014 05:23
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Brett824 posted:Thats what All Cards basically was in the first place. You can't just keep making new categories people will catch on eventually. The real difference here is that All Cards vs. any% at least made sense in the fact that they are very different routes with very different strategies. As far as I've heard, the only applications of this new trick are purely time-saving, not route changing at all.
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Feb 5, 2014 05:31
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Alteisen posted:I guess Anatomy is just very protective of his WR. I don't know Anatomy very well at all but I believe this to be 100% true, based solely off the fact that I see him streaming "WR attempts" within hours of anytime someone takes one of his Paper Mario records.
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Feb 5, 2014 05:45
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Guess he's like that Hanage guy, dude got the CV4 WR and vanished, Joe takes it, Hanage pops and gets it back within a week, Joe is apparently learning Diddy Kong Racing now so Hanage has vanished once more.
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Feb 5, 2014 05:51
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I really hope Metal Wolf Chaos gets uncut for SGDQ, it looks like the most insane, jingoistic USA game ever, and it came out of Japan. I guess 2:40:00 is a long time for something that might get old after a while.
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Feb 5, 2014 06:04
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Alteisen posted:Guess he's like that Hanage guy, dude got the CV4 WR and vanished, Joe takes it, Hanage pops and gets it back within a week, Joe is apparently learning Diddy Kong Racing now so Hanage has vanished once more. Well, some people need a reason to play a game besides really loving a game. He may care about his WR, or competition is the only thing driving Hanage to play his game at this point, which is totally understandable given how much CV4 and Paper Mario Hanage and Anatomyz have played respectively. Pivotal Lever posted:I really hope Metal Wolf Chaos gets uncut for SGDQ, it looks like the most insane, jingoistic USA game ever, and it came out of Japan. I guess 2:40:00 is a long time for something that might get old after a while.
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Feb 5, 2014 06:18
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Brett824 posted:Thats what All Cards basically was in the first place. You can't just keep making new categories people will catch on eventually. Says you. Just you wait when I get the WR on All Peach Cutscenes%.
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Feb 5, 2014 07:18
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Caleb takes the MMX any% by 3 seconds with a 31:38.
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Feb 6, 2014 04:36
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Alteisen posted:Guess he's like that Hanage guy, dude got the CV4 WR and vanished, Joe takes it, Hanage pops and gets it back within a week, Joe is apparently learning Diddy Kong Racing now so Hanage has vanished once more. When was this? Cause Hanage has been streaming daily for the past week? 
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Feb 6, 2014 11:24
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I hadn't seen him in awhile, maybe he's doing it at other times. In speedrun related news, kissmyafrocard has defeated the funkdoc and taken the sypha WR, he now has it on JP and US. http://www.twitch.tv/kissmyafrocard/c/3674967 Highlight of the WR.
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Feb 6, 2014 21:22
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Alteisen posted:Caleb takes the MMX any% by 3 seconds with a 31:38. And Tiki is -10 on WR going into Sigma. http://www.twitch.tv/tiki77747 E: 31:28 Rubellavator fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Feb 7, 2014 |
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argondamn posted:And Tiki is -10 on WR going into Sigma. 31:28 holy poo poo. And in more records being broken news, DK28 got a 10:04 contra, wonder if TMR will stick with CV4 or try to take the Contra one back.
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Feb 7, 2014 09:22
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argondamn posted:And Tiki is -10 on WR going into Sigma.  That was impressive.
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I believe everyone should go to this page and look at the latest cut: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Aj2eKeMxVzzzdF84YW1UTzVKekt6VGRpQUFBQnpULWc&gid=2
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Feb 7, 2014 18:22
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Dr. Stab posted:I believe everyone should go to this page and look at the latest cut: I have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking at, or even if that page is sorted in ascending or descending order.
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Feb 7, 2014 18:26
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I'm disappointed we won't be getting 20 hours of final fantasy tactics advance.
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Feb 7, 2014 18:33
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wa27 posted:I have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking at, or even if that page is sorted in ascending or descending order. Bottom of the spreadsheet he linked, rightmost cell:  Technically not NSFW, but your coworkers may get the wrong idea... EDIT: I was going to post anyways. argondamn posted:And Tiki is -10 on WR going into Sigma.  That was insane. He got great luck on just about every boss and his execution and movement were really solid. I've probably seen Caleb Hart beat MMX at least 10 times so it was really cool to see another talented runner play it just slightly different...jumping a frame or two earlier here, dashing instead of walljumping here, and so on. Based on that run alone I'd have to say Tiki's movement tactics and stage select timing seem better overall, and coupled with the luck he got...drat. That's going to be a VERY hard WR to beat. Very impressive. Congratulations to Tiki, but I'll still be pulling for Caleb to take it back. timp fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Feb 7, 2014 |
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Feb 7, 2014 18:35
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Crazy how much they've cut and they still got so much more to go.
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They've got a marathon worth of cuts and two marathons worth of non cuts. And, they still have more to process.
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Were AGDQ first round cuts on a spreadsheet with their times? I want to say this may still be less than AGDQ, but since Romscout is letting a lot more games through and cuts can be seen organized witht their time it makes it easier to compare the times. There are a lot of ways to just slash through time with early cuts though. Like there are 8 Pokemon games, and if he picks one that's at least 10 hours saved. There's like 18 hours of 2D Zeldas offered, and even if 2 make it through that can be 13 hours gone. Holy poo poo though I wanted Minish Cap in, I hope it makes it  I got past first cut though  .
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Also seconding the minish cap love, would be nice to see some zelda games that haven't been played a thousand times over at marathons.
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Feb 7, 2014 22:22
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Sinister is TEARIN up mtpo up -15.47 with 3 fights to go 
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Way to jinx it. < >
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Feb 8, 2014 03:08
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That was a loving heartbreaker.
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Feb 8, 2014 03:10
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That was really hard to watch the run come down like that I take full blame for the jinx.A 2:20 on tyson was insane especially w/a :57 1st knockdown. I'm positive a new wr will happen, sinister is really on fire these days w/punchout.
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The one thing that always makes me sad is that event horizon that truly excellent runners reach, where mechanically they are PERFECT, but what they are forced to rely on to shave off those last few seconds is the element of RNG over which they have no mechanical control. Sort of like the Megaman X run -- if the bosses go really well, then that's a lot of time off, but it isn't going to happen every time. It almost becomes a dice game at the very end of speedrun mastery where you have to wait for that Perfect Game, and then NAIL it. Granted, this happens a lot, but it's frustrating when Sinister just slays the game but that one random element goes different and loses time no matter how well he plays. Which is why we have TAS I guess, but it's still a finger-snapper of a fact.
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Feb 8, 2014 03:20
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He's going at it again, 7 secs ahead after bull 2.
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Black August posted:The one thing that always makes me sad is that event horizon that truly excellent runners reach, where mechanically they are PERFECT, but what they are forced to rely on to shave off those last few seconds is the element of RNG over which they have no mechanical control. Sort of like the Megaman X run -- if the bosses go really well, then that's a lot of time off, but it isn't going to happen every time. It almost becomes a dice game at the very end of speedrun mastery where you have to wait for that Perfect Game, and then NAIL it. Granted, this happens a lot, but it's frustrating when Sinister just slays the game but that one random element goes different and loses time no matter how well he plays. Speedrunning would be really boring if there was no RNG, and honestly even games with essentially no RNG boil down to that when you get to super optimized levels of play. Super Mario Bros. has almost no RNG, but all it means is goofy little frame rules and 1 frame differences due to things like the exact frame you started the game start to become significant.
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Man how the hell could you cut Peggle. Such a travesty. I am sorry for your loss heex4.
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Peggle could be a super sick run if you took the time to figure out the shots. For being such a seemingly random game to my knowledge there is no actual RNG in it.
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Peggle has RNG in the orange peg placement. It's way dumb
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