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The Iron Rose posted:Well, that's not true. The U.S. enforces international law (see: operations Uphold Democracy (lol) and Deny Flight). Naturally, they don't have huge motivation to piss off one of their major allies, which means you're not going to see the Seventh Fleet roll up on Australia's coast anytime soon. Isn't international law beautiful! Hypocrisy? It's not like we don't have a concentration camp for foreign nationals. At least we pretend the people at Guantanamo are terrorists I guess.
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Feb 16, 2014 04:39
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Goddamn, that Australian pamphlet. My heart goes out to the poor bastards that are living is such a poo poo situation that even getting thrown into a latter-day concentration camp indefinitely is a step up  Mister Beeg posted:Have some untranslated Antonio Prohias anti-communist goodness! I figure you guys can suss out the vast majority of these cartoons without my help, so here's just the ones with dialogue:  "Dang, what a weird eddoe they served me!"  The sickle of Damocles "I'm a cordial 'comrade'!"  "Orthodox-electoralist-montrealist-communist" (I have no idea what the symbols on the weathervane stand for) ALSO INITIATE WEATHERVANECHAT 
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Feb 16, 2014 04:40
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The current government stopped posting statistics, so here is the last availble set. Notice that, amazingly you are twice as likely to be granted a visa if you come by boat? Why's that? Because they are loving refugees. In regards to international law, following the Refugee Convention we recognise refugees. quote:...Australia has protection obligations to individuals. Consistent with that assumption, the text and structure of the [Migration] Act proceed on the footing that the [Migration] Act provides power to respond to Australia’s international obligations by granting a protection visa in an appropriate case and by not returning that person, directly or indirectly, to a country where he or she has a well-founded fear of persecution for a Convention reason.[16] That also covers refoulment. So what's the point of this comic? If you travel to Australia via boat, you're probably a refugee. But you know what, but if you're not? YOU BETTER WATCH OUT. 
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Feb 16, 2014 04:44
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LorrdErnie posted:Hypocrisy? It's not like we don't have a concentration camp for foreign nationals. At least we pretend the people at Guantanamo are terrorists I guess. If only it was just Guantanamo. ICE is every bit as bad, through the US prison system, for migrants as the Australian camps. Hell, ICE can even do it to green card holders and not just people trying to enter through improper means.
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Feb 16, 2014 04:45
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Sam!! What in the dang hill! We can't afford shortbread!! I need that money for Texas beer—I mean, to save. For my children. Whom I have not forgotten about. e: haha 
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Feb 16, 2014 04:58
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LorrdErnie posted:Hypocrisy? It's not like we don't have a concentration camp for foreign nationals. At least we pretend the people at Guantanamo are terrorists I guess. I guess ICE detention centers are more like a prisons than camps.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:07
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To be complete, the last reference to 'kiko' was never, and the last reference to 'mari' was a strip titled 'mammaries.'
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Feb 16, 2014 05:12
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A HUNGRY MOUTH posted:Sam!! What in the dang hill! We can't afford shortbread!! I need that money for Texas beer—I mean, to save. For my children. Whom I have not forgotten about. The kids? Y-yeah the kids are...around...somewhere. I mean they have to be right?
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Feb 16, 2014 05:26
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Since I was just looking at the archives, I can say that there was a strip in September of last year in which Sam called her horny Japanese mom to get the kids sent home, they came back sometime in (or before) mid-November, and they've been in like four strips at most since then.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:30
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Discendo Vox posted:Actually, I suspect they would charge full price, given US restrictions on gifts to elected officials. Honestly, I'm not entirely sure how that works with stuff for first ladies for state occasions. But at the same time, we still have no idea what the cost of the gown is, and the sole source for the $12,000 figure is Sally Quinn's anus, so there's that.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:33
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A HUNGRY MOUTH posted:Since I was just looking at the archives, I can say that there was a strip in September of last year in which Sam called her horny Japanese mom to get the kids sent home, they came back sometime in (or before) mid-November, and they've been in like four strips at most since then. Maybe they're at the bar.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:33
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Livingtrope posted:That dude has a really hosed up hand and it's really distracting. Political Cartoons 2014: If The Inhumanity Doesn't Horrify You, At Least The Art Will Although if the inhumanity in this thread actually doesn't horrify you, then you have lost whatever emotion you may have once had, which probably leaves you better off as far as reading this thread is concerned. If your reaction to a comic like that is "Well look at this loving hand, you guys" and it's not preceded by twelve or so instances of "Oh Christ why is this a thing" then please, step away from the thread. Step away from the cynicism and depression, try to experience hope, and joy, and all those other good things. Or at least pretend.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:36
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TheDarkFlame posted:Political Cartoons 2014: If The Inhumanity Doesn't Horrify You, At Least The Art Will I really thought this thread, dealing with Asay and McCoy and Lester, would be the best equipped to deal with that comic. I mean, it didn't bother me all that much. It's evil, and evil exists, and it's good to remember that evil exists, but it doesn't do anyone any good to shut your brain down over it.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:41
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TheDarkFlame posted:Political Cartoons 2014: If The Inhumanity Doesn't Horrify You, At Least The Art Will Thank you for psychoanalyzing me TheDarkFlame, you definitely know what you're talking about and aren't an idiot
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Feb 16, 2014 05:43
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tacodaemon posted:In the bottom left panel, the waifu complains that Michelle Obama's $12,000 gown covers up her skin in the game. This is because most women feel that politicians' wives should be encouraged to show as much skin as possible. Muir demonstrates his deft hand at crafting dialogue for female characters yet again. Hey, $12k is a yearly salary for some cartoonists.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:43
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tacodaemon posted:Maybe they're at the bar. Considering the caliber (a ha, gun joke!! haha guns!!! cool) of the parenting going on, they probably imprinted on the nude statue. They're already literally props, just like their new mommy!
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Feb 16, 2014 05:46
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A HUNGRY MOUTH posted:Since I was just looking at the archives, I can say that there was a strip in September of last year in which Sam called her horny Japanese mom to get the kids sent home, they came back sometime in (or before) mid-November, and they've been in like four strips at most since then. They're thinking up pithy bon mots to crack wise on Obama and his wife (who's a fatty fat fat).
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Feb 16, 2014 05:47
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TheDarkFlame posted:Political Cartoons 2014: If The Inhumanity Doesn't Horrify You, At Least The Art Will Counterpoint: look at these loving hands, you guys. 
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Feb 16, 2014 05:48
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A HUNGRY MOUTH posted:Considering the caliber (a ha, gun joke!! haha guns!!! cool) of the parenting going on, they probably imprinted on the nude statue. They're already literally props, just like their new mommy! Parenting? Supporting their children? Well, it's not like Muiry Sue can go and get any old job that opens up; we all know he needs something that his wife can tell him how to do over his cell phone all day.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:49
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The most offensive thing about the boat people graphic novel is that Aussie taxpayers are on the hook for Chris Muirs bogan counterparts fee to make it.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:49
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happy belated valentine's day 
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Feb 16, 2014 05:52
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Hahahahaha, thanks for brightening my day after the horrible loving Australian comic, Hope n' Change.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:56
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tacodaemon posted:Parenting? Supporting their children? Well, it's not like Muiry Sue can go and get any old job that opens up; we all know he needs something that his wife can tell him how to do over his cell phone all day. Let me just reassure anyone who is just joining us that, yes, the last steady job that Zed held down was one that was predicated entirely on his wife being able to tell him how to do it over the phone:  (And Muir did indeed depict his cartoon counterpart constantly on the phone with his waifu while on the job.)
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Feb 16, 2014 05:57
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TheDarkFlame posted:Political Cartoons 2014: If The Inhumanity Doesn't Horrify You, At Least The Art Will I think that this is awful and it's a lovely thing for Australia to do. But between my research project on the Japanese secret police and military police during WWII, and having recently read both "The Rape of Nanking" and "Nothing to Envy," this is hardly the most horrifying thing I've seen recently. Ed: Hell, it's not the most horrifying contemporary thing by far.
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Feb 16, 2014 06:00
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tacodaemon posted:Let me just reassure anyone who is just joining us that, yes, the last steady job that Zed held down was one that was predicated entirely on his wife being able to tell him how to do it over the phone: 
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Feb 16, 2014 06:00
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tacodaemon posted:Let me just reassure anyone who is just joining us that, yes, the last steady job that Zed held down was one that was predicated entirely on his wife being able to tell him how to do it over the phone: Was there any reason why Sam didn't go work there? She's the one who knows what the hell she's talking about, apparently.
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Feb 16, 2014 06:02
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XyloJW posted:I really thought this thread, dealing with Asay and McCoy and Lester, would be the best equipped to deal with that comic. I mean, it didn't bother me all that much. It's evil, and evil exists, and it's good to remember that evil exists, but it doesn't do anyone any good to shut your brain down over it. We all know people make awful things, but for all the awful poo poo that springs forth from Asay, McCoy, and Lester? None of it has the stamp of the United States government on it. e: It just represents something so much more ugly than any random cartoonist being a shitstain. The closest thing to it is every Kirschen "those silly Palestinians, thinking they have rights  "
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Feb 16, 2014 06:03
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crowfeathers posted:Was there any reason why Sam didn't go work there? She's the one who knows what the hell she's talking about, apparently. Well it just wouldn't be seemly for a woman to be the breadwinner of the house, now would it?
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Livingtrope posted:Thank you for psychoanalyzing me TheDarkFlame, you definitely know what you're talking about and aren't an idiot Hey, I'm sorry, I wasn't being serious, I know that wasn't your first reaction. I just liked the way you pointed out the artist's mistakes instead of addressing the comic's awful point, and this thread's tendency to throw these sorts of idiotic flaws back at a comic, like Ramirez's classic call to raise taxes. I'm also saying in a slightly dumb way that even though this sort of thing is pretty horrible, with a government flat-out admitting their hatred to the point of actually advertising it, people do get jaded to the point where this sort of thing doesn't surprise them. But it shouldn't just be background unpleasantness, it's slightly different than your typical Ramirez or Asay comic, because of both its subject matter and that it was explicitly supported by the Australian government, which I think kind of makes it a bigger deal than some fuckwit's awful opinions that he is paid to have. It's like the difference between what Jeremy Clarkson says and what David Cameron says. One is a dick who gets paid to be a dick, and one is expected to be representing a nation, and history books probably won't teach future generations about how much of a dick Jeremy Clarkson was. And yes, you're right, I'm an idiot, and it was clumsy and stupid. I'm sorry.
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crowfeathers posted:Was there any reason why Sam didn't go work there? She's the one who knows what the hell she's talking about, apparently. Don't you see those babies she has to take care of? I mean, really. One of the ongoing mysteries of Day by Day is what exactly the gently caress Zed brings to the relationship.
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crowfeathers posted:Was there any reason why Sam didn't go work there? She's the one who knows what the hell she's talking about, apparently. What, and have a MAN take care of babies? You see, biology works from certain truths, e: haha tacodaemon
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I wish the world were more aware of our refugee policies. At this point strong international pressure is the only thing I think could reverse them. There sure as poo poo isn't going to be a backlash from the general population here.
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tacodaemon posted:Don't you see those babies she has to take care of? I mean, really. Penis. He brings penis. Come on man, you've seen the edits just as much as I have.
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Feb 16, 2014 06:05
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Well it just wouldn't be seemly for a woman to be the breadwinner of the house, now would it? Actually one of the long-ago premises of the Day by Day living situation is that Sam earns money for the house by doing freelance engineering work from home, but I think that's another of the things that Muir at best only vaguely remembers. Zed's primary contribution to the household is sitting on his rear end drinking beer all day -- I was going to say he's the gun-toting protector, but the strip has made clear that Sam is strapped all the time too (with sexy thigh holsters).
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Oops, I remembered to tell a joke! (I actually kind of like this one  )
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Feb 16, 2014 06:16
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tacodaemon posted:Actually one of the long-ago premises of the Day by Day living situation is that Sam earns money for the house by doing freelance engineering work from home, but I think that's another of the things that Muir at best only vaguely remembers. Zed's primary contribution to the household is sitting on his rear end drinking beer all day -- I was going to say he's the gun-toting protector, but the strip has made clear that Sam is strapped all the time too (with sexy thigh holsters). Wasn't there a comic about how Zed digs ditches to make money because of Obama or something? Also: does anyone else remember that Sam's pregnant sister is still in Brazil? Because Muir sure doesn't.
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Feb 16, 2014 06:18
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This put a genuine smile on my face. And this wiped that smile right the gently caress off. There's a lot to complain about here, but for some reason the thing that bothers me the most is that Texas isn't electing a new governor until November 14th. Did he really think this joke was so good he had to tell it ten months early?
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Nice edit  Now post the real one where the kid is reciting a list of some sort.
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