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Koesj posted:PotM right here. Spotted this today. 41.136348, -95.983387 in Bing/VirtualEarth maps. 
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Nice E-6 spot. It's one of the older models, though - because if you pan over to Offutt to the right you can clearly see the alert E-6 and E-4B on the tarmac within easy running distance of their crew buildings, and another two E-6s parked in and amongst the KC-135s. Just to save people the search:  Finding the one at Paxtuent River was a bit of a chore - evidently it was off-alert in for maintenance and you have to look internally to the hangars. Finding the one at Travis AFB is easy. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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Mar 14, 2014 00:05
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What do you mean older models? I thought they were all part of the last batch of 707s off the line.
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Mar 14, 2014 00:44
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Godholio posted:What do you mean older models? I thought they were all part of the last batch of 707s off the line. There's the E-6A and the E-6B. The airframe snapped by the civilian IMINT satellite shows distinct antennae on/near the wingtips that the E-6 has but the KC-135 doesn't. You also can't see evidence of the retracted boom which further makes me think it's either a specialized -135 variant or an E-6A. The only thing that really differentiates a E-6A from a -6B is the 'bump' on top:  Then again, the double antennae at the wingtips could just be a byproduct of a lovely-quality image. EDIT: The original picture is neither an E-6 variant or a KC-135 - it's an RC-135 variant (of which there are too many subvariants to definitively ID): 
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Mar 14, 2014 02:22
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BIG HEADLINE posted:EDIT: The original picture is neither an E-6 variant or a KC-135 - it's an RC-135 variant (of which there are too many subvariants to definitively ID): I couldn't tell on my phone, but yeah that's clearly an RJ. You can even see the long nose.
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Mar 14, 2014 04:17
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Propagandalf posted:Spotted this today. 41.136348, -95.983387 in Bing/VirtualEarth maps. I could not find that view at work and imgur is blocked. I thought this was some kind of comment on the type of houses on an AFB. 
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Mar 14, 2014 04:42
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What's this that the NYT is saying there is speed and location info for 4 hours after the plane went missing? Is that for real and if so why did it take so long to figure that out?
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Mar 14, 2014 04:51
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priznat posted:What's this that the NYT is saying there is speed and location info for 4 hours after the plane went missing? Is that for real and if so why did it take so long to figure that out? It's not real. Wild speculation.
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Mar 14, 2014 04:52
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Ugh the media is so loving lovely. No wonder my BS alarms were going off when I saw that reported.
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Mar 14, 2014 04:54
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priznat posted:Ugh the media is so loving lovely. No wonder my BS alarms were going off when I saw that reported. Here's a better post explaining the truth. AWACS did it. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3276654&perpage=40&pagenumber=462#post426937300
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Mar 14, 2014 04:57
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That is crazy as balls
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Mar 14, 2014 05:01
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The whole thing has been a total poo poo show since it started. Not been handled well by any of the major players involved which leads to jumping at anything possibly. It doesn't help with the two stolen passport people on there.
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Mar 14, 2014 05:01
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BIG HEADLINE posted:it's an RC-135 variant (of which there are too many subvariants to definitively ID): It's got a black starboard wing, that makes it a Cobra Ball.
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Mar 14, 2014 05:26
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priznat posted:That is crazy as balls quote:3. China and Malaysia also have Awacs type systems. Since it was a Malaysian plane flying with Chinese engineers, it is safe to rationalize out that neither China nor Malaysia did this. It is inconceivable that false flag attacks happen anywhere but America 
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Mar 14, 2014 05:29
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Alaan posted:The whole thing has been a total poo poo show since it started. Not been handled well by any of the major players involved which leads to jumping at anything possibly. It doesn't help with the two stolen passport people on there. Look man, we all know the USAF used AWAC to hijack the plane so they could use the passengers in their secret lizard-people ceremonies.
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Mar 14, 2014 14:30
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Akion posted:Look man, we all know the USAF used AWAC to hijack the plane so they could use the passengers in their secret rape ceremonies. You're making this way too easy for me.
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Mar 14, 2014 14:59
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As a friend put it, "China shot down the jet to distract everyone from Ukraine" 
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Mar 14, 2014 18:04
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:As a friend put it, "China shot down the jet to distract everyone from Ukraine" Because if there's one thing the world can count on, it's Sino-Soviet/Russian cooperation.
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Mar 14, 2014 18:24
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:As a friend put it, "China shot down the jet to distract everyone from Ukraine" It was North Korea who are getting antsy because no one is looking at them right now.
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Mar 14, 2014 20:57
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This isn't even halfway on topic, but I figure you airplane nerds can either give me the tl;dr on this or point me to a worthwhile thread. I already tried GBS (thread there was unreadable poo poo even by GBS standards) and just hitting google is getting me either into deep territory or super-hardcore pilot chat. Can someone please explain what the everloving gently caress is up with that recent Malaysian Air disappearance? It seems like the official investigation now has them making a hard left and then maybe a right (or gently caress it, maybe another left) into anywhere between the middle of the Indian Ocean, the coast of India, or hell maybe Vietnam who the gently caress knows. Every report I read is full of "unconfirmed reports" by officials in this government or that military that seem to contradict what was said six hours ago. I've got the basic idea that whoever is running the search is probably incompetent and no one knows what the gently caress is going on, but then there's also all this poo poo out there about how maybe it was on radar, maybe it wasn't, maybe it was broadcasting to satellites, maybe it wasn't, the Chinese might have pictures of wreckage, but maybe they don't. . . So, yeah. I have no loving clue which version of what on the major news sites to even begin to give credence to. Lay some wisdom on me aviation nerds. What the everloving christ is going on here, and which of these "reports" are remotely viable explanations vs. which ones are just rumor mill BS being reported to rotate headlines a bit?
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Mar 14, 2014 22:53
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The AI Planes thread has spent a lot of time discussing this. TL/DR is that nobody knows dick and news sites are spinning their wheels in bullshit.
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Mar 14, 2014 23:00
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Cyrano4747 posted:tl;dr There is good stuff in the AI Aviation thread. Basically at this point for some reason the crew turned off the transponder/other reporting electronics and it was seen on radar at some point. After that no one knows and that whole thing about engine data transponders seems pretty shady. Possibly everyone on the plane passed out from loosing compression/hijackers/who knows. Or there was a really, really fast catastrophic failure of something.
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Mar 14, 2014 23:04
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Some friendly-fire news courtesy of the Royal Navy. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/10697895/Navy-warship-accidentally-fires-torpedo-at-nuclear-dockyard.html
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Mar 14, 2014 23:05
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Cyrano4747 posted:This isn't even halfway on topic, but I figure you airplane nerds can either give me the tl;dr on this or point me to a worthwhile thread. No one knows anything, read this to entertain yourself. I read the whole thing last night (and his Fukushima Iranian Gun Nuke Cameras that exploded the reactors), it's all insane bullshit, but it's incredibly fun to read. Edit: Related to this thread, there's this thing  Located about 10 minutes from me, anyone interested in some pictures? Doctor Grape Ape fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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Mar 14, 2014 23:05
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Pablo Bluth posted:Some friendly-fire news courtesy of the Royal Navy.
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Mar 14, 2014 23:10
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Cyrano4747 posted:What the everloving christ is going on here, and which of these "reports" are remotely viable explanations vs. which ones are just rumor mill BS being reported to rotate headlines a bit? 
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Mar 14, 2014 23:38
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Edit: Related to this thread, there's this thing Do you even need to ask? 
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Mar 14, 2014 23:40
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Edit: Related to this thread, there's this thing B-52 Park right next to Orlando International/McCoy? It's a pretty neat little park.
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Mar 14, 2014 23:51
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Insert name here posted:Do they really call the docks that nuke subs base out of "nuclear dockyards" or is it just dumb bullshit to make it sound scary because NUCLEAR? Because I'm assuming the second but wanted to make sure. There are a variety of errors and vagaries in that article that are common to media reporting on naval matters. While the base apparently has reactor core handling facilities, that ship was likely nowhere near them, it's very unlikely there's any nuclear material there right now, and of course reactor fuel isn't anything like a nuclear weapon lying around. Also while the torpedo is a 'missile' in the sense that it was propelled from the launcher, no one calls a normal torpedo a missile, it didn't go rocketing around, IIRC it's just compressed air squirting it from its tube and it's not like it made it more than a few feet from the ship. Reminds me of when we had to report my nuclear submarine having an accident in an Italian harbor, the local press reworded that into a submarine having a nuclear accident in the harbor, and we ended up with crazy protesters.
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Mar 15, 2014 00:25
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Party Plane Jones posted:B-52 Park right next to Orlando International/McCoy? It's a pretty neat little park. Yup. I haven't been there in 10 years or so. There's actually quite a few neat aircraft scattered around Central Florida. Off the top of my head: a Blue Angels A-4 in Research Park near UCF, RA-5C at Sanford International and an F-15 sitting alongside a road in DeBary. Plus the Warbird Museum in Kissimmee and Fantasy of Flight in Lakeland which is as close to nirvana as you can get if you like WWII and earlier aviation. Seriously, check out their collection: http://www.fantasyofflight.com/aircraft/
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Mar 15, 2014 01:34
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Fantasy of Flight is closing to the public in three weeks. 
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Mar 15, 2014 02:13
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MrChips posted:Fantasy of Flight is closing to the public in three weeks. Shiiiiiiiiit. Guess I might be heading there too.
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Mar 15, 2014 03:39
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Snowdens Secret posted:Reminds me of when we had to report my nuclear submarine having an accident in an Italian harbor, the local press reworded that into a submarine having a nuclear accident in the harbor, and we ended up with crazy protesters. Was it bumping a tug, catching a net in the screw, or dropping a gallon tin of mustard off the gangway?
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Snowdens Secret posted:Reminds me of when we had to report my nuclear submarine having an accident in an Italian harbor, the local press reworded that into a submarine having a nuclear accident in the harbor, and we ended up with crazy protesters. Even if you'd had it reported correctly, Italians would've protested you. They're still touchy after the cable car incident (and, completely unrelated to the military, the Amanda Knox thing) and honestly come in a little behind the Japanese in wanting "Yankees" out of their country. The ones who live around the bases and benefit directly from the money the base residents spread around the economy *love* Americans - at least, the ones who don't expect them to know perfect American English and show an effort to acclimate to a different culture. I still remember living in Sicily from '91 to '93 and having the base go apeshit because the base commissary ran out of - I'm not making GBS threads you - *olive oil*. In Sicily. There were people who were too afraid to go outside the fence line and find a supermarket to buy olive oil in Sicily. They also ran out of milk, which is a bit dicier and understandable, but since there's a little something called "Parmalat" that might not be a perfect alternative but won't give you the shits, it also displayed how inept a lot of people are. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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Mar 15, 2014 07:29
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Blistex posted:Was it bumping a tug, catching a net in the screw, or dropping a gallon tin of mustard off the gangway? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hartford_grounding#Environmental_impact
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Mar 15, 2014 08:03
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:No one knows anything, read this to entertain yourself. I read the whole thing last night (and his Fukushima Iranian Gun Nuke Cameras that exploded the reactors), it's all insane bullshit, but it's incredibly fun to read. In the same vein:  Point Mugu Missile Park, just off the PCH. I _should_ have some pictures of this.... somewhere. 
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Mar 15, 2014 13:40
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Yup. I haven't been there in 10 years or so. There's actually quite a few neat aircraft scattered around Central Florida. Off the top of my head: a Blue Angels A-4 in Research Park near UCF, RA-5C at Sanford International and an F-15 sitting alongside a road in DeBary. Plus the Warbird Museum in Kissimmee and Fantasy of Flight in Lakeland which is as close to nirvana as you can get if you like WWII and earlier aviation. Seriously, check out their collection: http://www.fantasyofflight.com/aircraft/ There's the Vietnam Museum out on by UCF, it's on Tanner Road. Has a Huey and a Phantom and a couple of APCs.
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Mar 15, 2014 15:31
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Propagandalf posted:Spotted this today. 41.136348, -95.983387 in Bing/VirtualEarth maps. What in the world is that? spankmeister posted:In the same vein: I live like 20 minutes away from there. I should drive by there tomorrow and take some pics. On a related note, I'll have to take a better camera with me to this years Camarillo Airshow.
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Mar 16, 2014 01:31
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RandomPauI posted:What in the world is that? Remember that missing airliner. . . . . ? some airforce airplane full of antennas and poo poo flying over a burb
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I didn't realize the wing was black and brown. I thought it was missing, partially underneath something.
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