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A Nation of Refugees Maidar Khan brought terror to the Middle East on a scale never before seen. As Baghdad and Nishapur burned, traders of all religions and cultures fled. Nobles and clergymen followed, some disappearing without warning. While many moved West, a considerable portion turned to the sea. The Majapahit Empire in Indonesia was the first to greet the refugees, but their hospitality strained under the massive wave of immigrants. The travelers were forced to live in ghettos, even as their numbers swelled above of the native population is some settlements. Even though more trade is flowing into Indonesia than ever, cultural and religious tensions threaten to rip the empire apart. Can Majapahit survive as a mutli-ethnic, multi-religious empire, or will it devolve into a thousand feuding states?
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 18:50 |
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Reposting from earlier: A prophecy of apocalypse, seen by a friar in a Nestorian monastery in Socotra, predicted the imminent doom of the island under a great crescent wave, out of which a new Ark sailed unopposed to rich lands in the east. While the vision was dismissed as heresy by the ruling elite, several convoys of merchant vessels carrying pilgrims departed the island over the next few years, landing Nestorian minorities in religious enclaves as far east as Aden, where they were eventually assimilated into the general population, failing to achieve much in the way of religious conversion. They did, however, bring with them knowledge from the West, including detailed maps of Arabia and construction techniques that soon led to establishment of stronger permanent fortifications across the Malay peninsula, and established strong mercantile ties between several minor ports in the region. (Bump up the base tax in a few coastal provinces, give some/all of them a temporary boost to monarch points, and let's see if they manage to do anything with it.) I think SE Asia is pretty boring in EU4 because the mainland has such terrible base tax value, low-value trade goods and huge tech penalties that it's next to impossible for the AI to do anything with it, short of lucky inheritances, so it tends to stay more or less static the whole game, minus the occasional encroachment by Borneo or the Europeans to seize the area around Malacca. I don't think rearranging the borders will do much to make them more interesting, but giving them the ability to grow decent economies might lead to one of them actually getting somewhere.
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# ? Mar 15, 2014 20:16 |
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Once again, thanks to everyone who submitted their proposals. As I mentioned, I wanted to focus on Southeast Asia itself for the scenarios, rather than Polynesia or Oceania. That said, the popularity of suggestions involving those areas means that I will be looking at ways to make at least a couple places more interesting than in vanilla EU4. One more note as well: there were a few suggestions of Vietnamese invasion of China, which I like as an idea, but I decided to put it off until China-related voting. Here are the scenarios to vote on. As before, please indicate a vote for either Scenario One or Scenario Two. Scenario One: By the middle of the 14th century, the Javanese Empire of Majapahit had established itself as the preeminent power in the region. With not only Java but also large portions of Sumatra and Borneo under Javanese control and the Muslim sultanates of Brunei and Aceh offering tribute to the empire, Majapahit's warrior queen turned her eye north, toward the declining Khmer Empire. Establishing alliances with the Kingdom of Champa and the Thais of Sukhothai, the queen assembled a massive army and navy for the subjugation of Angkor. The expedition was a success, leading to the final destruction of the Khmer Empire and its division into several new tributary states for Majapahit. With Javanese support, the Kingdom of Sukhothai defeated and subjugated its upstart rivals in Ayutthaya, while Champa benefitted directly from the fall of the Khmer. Majapahit's control over the peninsula only lasted a generation, however, as the empire was increasingly unable to project force so far from home. With the withdrawal of Javanese power, their client kings were left in tenuous positions, and it wasn't long before turmoil engulfed the region. Order was eventually restored by an unlikely candidate – a Lao prince with blood ties to the deposed Khmer royal line – who establish the Kingdom of Lan Xang and united not only his homeland but also the heartland of the former Khmer Empire. Now it is Lan Xang that dominates the peninsula, with Sukhothai reduced a rump tributary. Further south, weakened Majapahit desperately attempts to hold on to the remnants of their empire against incursions by the Muslim sultanates and their liberated neighbours in Sunda. (This scenario is broadly based on Patter Song's suggestion, and involves a greater Hindu presence in Indonesia as well as an ascendent Laotian kingdom dominating the central peninsula.) Scenario Two: By the middle of the 14th century, the Javanese Empire of Majapahit had established itself as the preeminent power in the region. With not only most of Java but also portions of Sumatra and Borneo under Javanese control, Majapahit's warrior king turned his eye north, toward the declining Khmer Empire. Establishing an alliance with the Kingdom of Champa, the king assembled a massive army and navy for the subjugation of Angkor. The expedition was a disaster, leading to a humiliating defeat for the mismanaged armies. The Javanese king barely escaped with his life, returning to a severely weakened kingdom. By the end of his life, Majapahit was reduced to its core territories on Java, its powerful empire nothing but a distant memory. Sukhothai was likewise devastated, falling to their rivals in Ayutthaya soon afterwards, while only Champa escaped relatively unscathed. The Khmer, on the other hand, were soon ascendent once again under the rule of a newly-proclaimed chakravartin. Further attacks by the new Thai power in Ayutthaya were repelled, and the two kingdoms grew in tandem, quickly becoming the two dominant powers in the region. The peninsula is now dominated by these two rival powers and their various minor vassal states, each threatened not only by each other but also by various external powers – the Burmese peoples to the west and the Cham and Vietnamese to the east. Further south, the Muslim Malay sultans are currently ascendent while the Hindu states left alone in the wake of Majapahit's collapse cling dearly to life. (This scenario is basically just inspired by Lynneth's suggestion of a resurgent Khmer Empire, along with a fairly historical Ayutthaya. It involves those two as the major powers in the peninsula, while Indonesia is more split up, but inclined toward historical Muslim domination.) Viscardus fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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Scenario One!
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 00:05 |
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Scenario One seems pretty cool. More Hindus!
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 00:06 |
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Scenario One.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 00:08 |
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Scenario One, a strong Hindu presence in Indochina sounds interesting.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 00:09 |
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Scenario ॐ.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 00:21 |
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Scenario Two
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 00:24 |
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Scenario One
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 00:30 |
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Scenario one
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 00:32 |
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Scenario one
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 00:32 |
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Scenario two.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 00:37 |
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Scenario Two.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:02 |
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Another vote for Scenario 2.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:03 |
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Scenario 2.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:05 |
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Scenario One sounds pretty interesting. Mostly because I like the idea of a Laotian state that can actually hold its own.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:34 |
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Good choices. I'm going to vote for scenario two, because the resurgent Khmer seems to be one of the more interesting ideas to me. Hope they do reasonably well. From the descriptions, it seems to have more potentially powerful states than scenario 1, and I kind of like the idea of a world of moderately powerful lands without the kind of blob empire we seem to be trying to avoid ourselves.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:38 |
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Scenario One.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:44 |
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Scenario Two. What else could I vote for.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:50 |
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Scenario One
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:52 |
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2 Also Ryukyu is where Karate comes from and was featured in what is by far the best Orphanage simulator/beat em up to date, which means a lot of folks have a soft spot in they hearts for it. Also they have a kickass flag. Look at this thing: How could you not want that thing flyin' everywhere?
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 01:54 |
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Scenario 1
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 02:29 |
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Scenario One
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 02:32 |
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Scenario Two.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 02:40 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:2 Sold. Two.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 02:54 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:2 Wait what. Also 2.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 03:02 |
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Neither scenario has anything to do with Ryukyu. One.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 03:18 |
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Scenario 2.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 08:25 |
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Scenario One seems most fun.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 08:39 |
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Scenario one once again.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 10:18 |
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Scenario One
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 11:08 |
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Scenario 1
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 13:24 |
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Senario 2
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 13:47 |
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Scenario 1
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 15:23 |
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One
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 16:01 |
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I think Two sounds interesting.
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 16:05 |
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There's only one choice for me
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# ? Mar 17, 2014 16:30 |
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2
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 17:01 |
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Scenario One
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