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HalloKitty posted:There are plenty of dedicated Bitcoin ASICs, and some companies are at work creating scrypt miners, designed to be more difficult/expensive to design for, as you need more RAM the faster you mine (the way I understand it). Nephilm posted:Once the difficulty on litecoin or whatever flavor of the month is ramps up enough that only ASICs will cut it, people will switch to the next flavor of the month cryptocoin. There'll be no end to it until the fad itself dies.
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subx posted:Can something really be a fad when it has such a small following? I guess I still don't get the whole cryptocoin thing, I guess I'm just I guess once they are specifically being marketed to and causing price hikes it doesn't matter how big they really are. Then again I've heard several times that manufacturing issues and supply are more the issue right now and in the recent past, however miners must be (or were, prices seem to be coming down) having an effect because why would people still be paying so far over MSRP otherwise for just typical gaming use. For example what would cause the 280x to increase so vastly in price over a gtx 770 as it had been, yet still selling out, if not for miners who see a distinct advantage in that architecture where as for any other use they function virtually the same. That was always the hole I saw in the theory that coin mining really wasn't the cause of the price hikes, but I can definitely see how that would exacerbate the problem. Really I could be wrong here, that's as far as I thought about it since I like nvidia just fine.
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Mar 18, 2014 18:46
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Nvidia's 750ti gets respectable hashrates for the cost/power consumption, much better than their previous cards, and they almost certainly will keep pushing their drivers/hardware to be capable cryptocoin miners. There's really no reason they wouldn't want more reason for people to buy their cards.
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Mar 18, 2014 18:48
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So I broke down today and bought one of the new AMD 680s http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150706 before it sells out. It should be between an nvidia 760 and 770.
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Mar 18, 2014 18:52
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Nephilm posted:Once the difficulty on litecoin or whatever flavor of the month is ramps up enough that only ASICs will cut it, people will switch to the next flavor of the month cryptocoin. There'll be no end to it until the fad itself dies. There are a couple coins based on scrypt-n (vertcoin for example) that are supposedly ASIC-proof. Then again that's what scrypt was supposed to be. Also Primecoin can only be mined on CPUs. But no one (even coin miners) gives a poo poo about that one.
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Mar 18, 2014 18:55
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Peechka posted:So I broke down today and bought one of the new AMD 680s http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150706 before it sells out. It should be between an nvidia 760 and 770. It's not quite in between, in overall performance it's actually little lower than a GTX 760, with the obvious handful of AMD optimized games going the favor of the R9 280. For that price I'm not a fan of the card, you can get a nice factory overclocked GTX 760 for less and you're really close to a R9 280X/GTX 770 which would be a substantial improvement in performance for only a few bucks more, now that the R9 280X is showing up at MSRP on some retailers.
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Beautiful Ninja posted:It's not quite in between, in overall performance it's actually little lower than a GTX 760, with the obvious handful of AMD optimized games going the favor of the R9 280. For that price I'm not a fan of the card, you can get a nice factory overclocked GTX 760 for less and you're really close to a R9 280X/GTX 770 which would be a substantial improvement in performance for only a few bucks more, now that the R9 280X is showing up at MSRP on some retailers. Canncellll!!!!
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ShaneB posted:Nvidia's 750ti gets respectable hashrates for the cost/power consumption, much better than their previous cards, and they almost certainly will keep pushing their drivers/hardware to be capable cryptocoin miners. There's really no reason they wouldn't want more reason for people to buy their cards. Actually, card manufacturers are affected because the cryptocoin community is known for flipping and burning through hardware and abusing the warranty system, and they don't get to see the profits of the greater-than-MSRP prices (that all goes to the retailers). AMD doesn't see increased profits either, and they suffer from something different: due to the cards being bought outside their target demographic, they're losing market penetration to Nvidia, which is a huge loving deal.
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Mar 18, 2014 20:16
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Ignoarints posted:Canncellll!!!! Why? Even if this card is lovely like you say it is, Ill sell it on ebay in a week for $350 easy. 7950B was a crypto dream card.
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Mar 18, 2014 20:45
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Peechka posted:Why? Even if this card is lovely like you say it is, Ill sell it on ebay in a week for $350 easy. 7950B was a crypto dream card. I'm down for flipping dude. I just meant if you could cancel at no expense to you (preshipping) and get a better card for less money, why not.
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Mar 18, 2014 20:48
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I know I'm definitely going nVidia next time. I've had enough microstuttering.
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MondayHotDog posted:I know I'm definitely going nVidia next time. I've had enough microstuttering. Same. I just hope they up the VRAM amounts for the next batch. I'm looking at something around 770 level but I have no faith that the 2 gigs on that is going to stay competitive for long.
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CFox posted:Same. I just hope they up the VRAM amounts for the next batch. I'm looking at something around 770 level but I have no faith that the 2 gigs on that is going to stay competitive for long. For like $50 more you can get a 770 with 4GB if you're on the fence about just that fact. I'm getting the "dont hold your breath" vibe about higher end maxwell cards Edit: Link since its surprisingly hard to find Ignoarints fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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Ignoarints posted:For like $50 more you can get a 770 with 4GB if you're on the fence about just that fact. I'm getting the "dont hold your breath" vibe about higher end maxwell cards Yea I do know about that but that extra 50 puts it firmly into the absurd range of money spent on a GPU for me. Really if nvidia made the 280x at the $300 price point that'd be pretty much perfect.
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CFox posted:Yea I do know about that but that extra 50 puts it firmly into the absurd range of money spent on a GPU for me. Really if nvidia made the 280x at the $300 price point that'd be pretty much perfect. Yeah, and the sad part is, they did. And now we've come full circle. I just realized that AMD is probably finally cashing in on the price hikes by pricing the new 280 at $279. Since the 280x is technically $299 msrp. Ignoarints fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Mar 18, 2014 |
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Mar 18, 2014 22:16
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If you guys are gung-ho about 4GB ram, Evga's B-stock section of their site has refurbished 4GB cards for less money than new 2GB cards of the same models.
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veedubfreak posted:Heh, I'm still using the tiny tubes of paste that came with my old water blocks. I think it's mx-2 or something. Honestly, thermal paste makes a total of 1-2 degrees difference in most cases. From way back, but since I'm doing computer case shopping of my own and I found your case. I've elected to go with a stupid-expensive case of my own but instead with this one. I've got two 780tis that are going to use the closed-loop CPU coolers and this sort of design is very nice for that. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be joining your 3+ DIY liquid cooling setup soon, then around next year I'll have phase cooling and be calling the electrician to upgrade my line into my computer room 
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Don't mind this post, I just want to check my last post in this thread and I don't have search. e: turns out I never posted what I thought I did. e2: vvvv oooh nice tip. Thanks! simplefish fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Mar 19, 2014 |
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Mar 19, 2014 16:14
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Neat forums tip: You can grab your User ID from your profile URI and plug it in instead of anyone else's when you're looking at a thread in one-user mode. That way you don't have to make a post to find your own! 
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Mar 19, 2014 20:03
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Has anybody used Shadowplay to stream on Twitch? If so, how exactly do you use it? I log in through Shadowplay but Twitch shows I'm offline.
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ZergFluid posted:Has anybody used Shadowplay to stream on Twitch? It's supposed to be way better to use the freeware Open Broadcaster, go into the settings, and enable "Nvenc", that will use the Nvidia shadowplay hardware fpr performance but Opeb Broadcaster does a better job with protocols and can stream in windowed mode whereas Shadowplay needs full screen. I have a friend who twitch streams DayZ on his GTX 660 all day and that's what he does.
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Mar 20, 2014 04:50
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The Thief Mantle patch has been out for 2 days now and I gave it a shot. It's pretty underwhelming I suppose? Maybe I can try turning Crossfire back on, but I've been getting comparable performance with regular D3D mode.
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I have a 290x. Can i buy a lesser card like 280/270 and put it in crossfire? Or is it too little gain?
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Mar 20, 2014 17:27
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Michael Jackson posted:I have a 290x. Can i buy a lesser card like 280/270 and put it in crossfire? Or is it too little gain? Won't work. Has to be the same GPU. 290x can only Crossfire with another 290x.
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MondayHotDog posted:Won't work. Has to be the same GPU. 290x can only Crossfire with another 290x. Is there any hope for major price drops in near future?
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Jan posted:The Thief Mantle patch has been out for 2 days now and I gave it a shot. It's pretty underwhelming I suppose? Maybe I can try turning Crossfire back on, but I've been getting comparable performance with regular D3D mode. I heard mantle works better the shittier your processor is. So if you have the latest i5 or i7 mantle wont be doing much for you. But if you have an i3 or some god forsaken AMD CPU, it will give you great results since its intended to work better with CPU bound systems. http://hothardware.com/News/AMD-Mantle-vs-DirectX-Benchmarks-with-Battlefield-4-and-Star-Swarm/
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MondayHotDog posted:Won't work. Has to be the same GPU. 290x can only Crossfire with another 290x. Pretty sure it can crossfire with a 290, but it'd give you 2x290 performance iirc
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Mar 20, 2014 18:12
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Well, 290x is good enough really.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:13
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290X is excellent for quiet gaming at 1080p if you frame limit to 60fps 
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Mar 20, 2014 18:14
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deimos posted:290X is excellent for quiet gaming at 1080p if you frame limit to 60fps Argh i have 1440! I cant have uber gaming 
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Mar 20, 2014 18:21
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Thats the one thing stopping me from going to 1440p or even 3 screens like I would love to have. You are pretty much forced into $600-$2K spent on graphics cards. I refuse to spend anymore than $300-$350 for a GPU.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:32
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The 290X can run 1440p like a champ guys, I was being facetious.
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Mar 20, 2014 18:37
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tbh my experience with 290x and 1440p shows that it is adequate. Now, i only play DCS-A10 and roguelikes, so YMMV. (Dark Souls!)
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Just for the record, I'm only registering usage on a single 290x when playing Titanfall and the game is smooth as hell at max settings on 3 screens. Yay for source engine games.
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veedubfreak posted:Just for the record, I'm only registering usage on a single 290x when playing Titanfall and the game is smooth as hell at max settings on 3 screens. Yay for source engine games. I feel like Titanfall actually runs kind of lovely for the engine and the visual quality that isn't quite up there with other recent games.
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ShaneB posted:I feel like Titanfall actually runs kind of lovely for the engine and the visual quality that isn't quite up there with other recent games. Pretty typical for a port isnt it? Even if it is a "next gen" console port, its still early on. I've been on the fence about getting it though just because it sounds like people have fun playing it. The graphics seem good enough to be honest, but I've never heard anyone touting how good it looks so I just kind of assumed.
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Is it really a port? I thought PC was the primary development platform.
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Don Lapre posted:Is it really a port? I thought PC was the primary development platform. No, development started for 360 and PS3 then switched to emphasis on xbone after the exclusivity deal with microsoft. PC version is a 50GB port.
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Nephilm posted:No, development started for 360 and PS3 then switched to emphasis on xbone after the exclusivity deal with microsoft. PC version is a 50GB port. It should really run a lot better than 792p on the non-port system, then...
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Nephilm posted:No, development started for 360 and PS3 then switched to emphasis on xbone after the exclusivity deal with microsoft. PC version is a 50GB port. They actually decided to go with the Source engine because of its advantages on the PS3, but then EA brokered an exclusivity deal with Microsoft and they ended up getting stuck with an engine that's probably sub-optimal for the platforms they did release on.
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