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I'm always afraid of the auto-focus motor loving up before any real external damage due to a bump, for any camera.
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Costello Jello posted:I'm always afraid of the auto-focus motor loving up before any real external damage due to a bump, for any camera. Thats what happened to my DP1.
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I ended up getting a used XF1 off Amazon for $140 in "like new" condition. The mechanical zoom is really convenient, and the interface is easy enough to use (compared to my 2007ish Powershot) that I kind of figured out how cameras work from playing with the settings for aperture and shutter speed etc. The one thing that bothers me with the interface is there are a number of settings with names that I think Fuji made up that aren't explained properly in the manual. Like even if you just want it on auto, there are separate "auto" and "EXR auto" settings on the dial. Also, the aperture drops really fast as soon as you start to zoom in. I'm assuming it's a design tradeoff of some sort but its kind of confusing. Cat glamour shots:   Some sort of gimmick mode that simulates more depth of field:  Trying it at night with higher ISO, it works well enough zoomed out, at least compared to other cameras I've owned. The automatic mode actually made this a lot brighter than it looked to me. 
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Mar 13, 2014 04:39
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Fortuitous Bumble posted:Also, the aperture drops really fast as soon as you start to zoom in. I'm assuming it's a design tradeoff of some sort but its kind of confusing. I'm not an expert of photography, but I'm pretty sure that's true for most lenses that zoom. I think the f-stop number is a combination of the focal length and the aperture: as the lens zooms, it changes the focal length while the aperture remains constant. The result is that the lowest f-stops aren't available when you've zoomed in, even though your aperture is still wide open.
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Chernori posted:I'm not an expert of photography, but I'm pretty sure that's true for most lenses that zoom. I think the f-stop number is a combination of the focal length and the aperture: as the lens zooms, it changes the focal length while the aperture remains constant. The result is that the lowest f-stops aren't available when you've zoomed in, even though your aperture is still wide open. This is exactly right. A P&S with a constant aperture across its zoom range wouldn't be feasible in any way. The glass would either be enormous or terrible.
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Mar 15, 2014 20:54
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DJExile posted:This is exactly right. A P&S with a constant aperture across its zoom range wouldn't be feasible in any way. The glass would either be enormous or terrible. Fuji X10/X20 The camera itself is rather large, but not because of the lens.
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Mar 15, 2014 21:35
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grack posted:Fuji X10/X20 Doesn't the aperture still drop to f/2.8 on the long end though? E: I mean yeah it's not crazy far or anything but it does still drop.
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There are some crazy fast P&S lenses out there, I think the lx7 is something like 1.4-2.0, but I can't think of any with a constant aperture till you get to bridge cameras and the like.
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DJExile posted:This is exactly right. A P&S with a constant aperture across its zoom range wouldn't be feasible in any way. The glass would either be enormous or terrible. There's also the RX10 which is f/2.8 all the way from 24mm to 200mm but like you said, it's pretty huge glass for a P&S/bridge camera. alkanphel fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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Mar 17, 2014 09:03
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My mom wants a P&S with a viewfinder, optical or electronic. So what are my options? I've narrowed down the selection to the Canon G15 or G16, the Fujifilm X20, the Olympus Stylus 1, the Olympus Stylus ZX-2 with the VF-3 external EVF, and the Panasonic LX7 with it's add-on EVF. The Sony RX10, as amazing as it seems, is off the menu due to its size and price. I still need to ask her if external EVFs are an option, what focal length range she wants, and size restrictions but at the moment I'd say it's a tie between the ZX-2 and the G15 or G16.
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Mar 17, 2014 23:45
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Edward IV posted:My mom wants a P&S with a viewfinder, optical or electronic. So what are my options? I've narrowed down the selection to the Canon G15 or G16, the Fujifilm X20, the Olympus Stylus 1, the Olympus Stylus ZX-2 with the VF-3 external EVF, and the Panasonic LX7 with it's add-on EVF. The Sony RX10, as amazing as it seems, is off the menu due to its size and price. I still need to ask her if external EVFs are an option, what focal length range she wants, and size restrictions but at the moment I'd say it's a tie between the ZX-2 and the G15 or G16. Nikon P7800 also has an EVF. On the cheap side, Canon A1400 has a tiny OVF.
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I dropped my fcuking S90 and bent the metal surround of the front element. Not much - just enough to prevent the lens from retracting fully and therefore breaking the entire camera. FML Something tells me that a repair will cost more than the camera is worth. Maybe I'll try tapping it with a bit of wood.
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spog posted:I dropped my fcuking S90 and bent the metal surround of the front element. Not much - just enough to prevent the lens from retracting fully and therefore breaking the entire camera. If you've managed to drop the camera on the lens, there's a good chance that more than just the front element is bent. I mean, go nuts but it's pretty unlikely you'll actually be able to fix it.
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grack posted:If you've managed to drop the camera on the lens, there's a good chance that more than just the front element is bent. I haven't done a focus chart test yet, but all does seem to be okay. it's just the bezel is bent juust enough (at a join) to catch and prevent closure. I could probably take it down with a nailfile and it will work. The galling part is that to get it fixed properly would probably require a complete rebuild with a new lense, motor and sensor.
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I need a compact pocketsized camera that can shoot in RAW and work decently in low-light. I know I can't expect miracles for low light but I was wondering which are the ones that can handle it the best? And I really prefer viewfinders, but reading reviews it seems most are pretty crappy anyway so I'm not sure about that anymore. Something like the Lumix DMC-TZ60 would be a great form factor, but seems like the viewfinder is crap (though I guess I can do without) and an aperture of 3.3 looks not that great for low-light? I used to have a Lumix LX1 and while I liked having something portable, it was pretty crappy in low light. Has it improved significantly in the LX7? I'm at the point in researching my options where I'm drowning in model numbers and specs :-/
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Mar 31, 2014 20:31
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Sterf posted:I need a compact pocketsized camera that can shoot in RAW and work decently in low-light. I know I can't expect miracles for low light but I was wondering which are the ones that can handle it the best? What's your budget and what are you trying to shoot? A small mirrorless body with a fast prime may work.
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Sterf posted:I need a compact pocketsized camera that can shoot in RAW and work decently in low-light. I know I can't expect miracles for low light but I was wondering which are the ones that can handle it the best? The LX1 is 9 years old at this point so it's useless as a baseline for comparison to anything current. Budget is number 1
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Mar 31, 2014 20:52
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Well, budget is about 400 euros, though it could go to 500 euros if it really made a difference. It would be used as a regular point and shoot, for travel, but also in the evenings (for social stuff, read: bars) without flash in less than stellar lighting conditions. Again, I don't expect miracles for that, but decent would be great. Sterf fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Mar 31, 2014 |
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Mar 31, 2014 20:56
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Sony RX100
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Yeah the RX100 is phenomenal, very good in low light. E: Grack I laugh at that av every drat time.
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Mar 31, 2014 21:20
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Yeah... I'm probably gonna lose it due to a  as well
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Looking at it in reviews now, and yes seems perfect. Somehow I overlooked that one, maybe I was too focused on viewfinders  Always hate researching stuff to buy like this, I got a few dozen tabs open and was getting pretty overwhelmed by choices/specs. Figure I am just going for this one.Thanks!
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Mar 31, 2014 21:26
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Buy the rumored Canon G17. viewfinder 1" sensor
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whatever7 posted:Buy the rumored Canon G17. "Compact pocketsized" was one of the requirements. Canon's G-series cameras are many things but compact they are not.
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Mar 31, 2014 21:40
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grack posted:"Compact pocketsized" was one of the requirements. He wants viewfinder. At least is compact-er than G1X Mark II.
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Yeah, pocket sized really is a big requirement. Already got a DSLR for instance but need something to always carry with me that isn't a cellphone camera. Also, something that is on the market right now, I'm impatient
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Is it possible to get a camera of some sort that will take lowish light pictures along these lines with a $275 budget? I mostly use an iphone5 and an older olympus vr340 right now but it is very time consuming to get the focus correct with the flash off on the point and shoot. Size is not an issue as I don't need to pocket it or travel with it. 
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king of the bongo posted:Is it possible to get a camera of some sort that will take lowish light pictures along these lines with a $275 budget? I mostly use an iphone5 and an older olympus vr340 right now but it is very time consuming to get the focus correct with the flash off on the point and shoot. Size is not an issue as I don't need to pocket it or travel with it. Buy a used DSLR and and off camera flash and you'll have a much easier time. e. mostly the dslr
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Mr. Despair posted:Buy a used DSLR and and off camera flash and you'll have a much easier time. He probably just need a product light tent kit, a tripod with a "decent" camera. (Of course, any camera with a hhotshoe or flash sync will have to be decent. IMO you probably can do it with a high end P&S) Also, decent amount of post processing. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Apr 1, 2014 |
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Sterf posted:I need a compact pocketsized camera that can shoot in RAW and work decently in low-light. I know I can't expect miracles for low light but I was wondering which are the ones that can handle it the best? I don't know if I can still help you but I recently got a Fuji X20 with which I did this, handheld, ISO 3200:  Modena by night di maxmars70, su Flickr
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maxmars posted:I don't know if I can still help you but I recently got a Fuji X20 with which I did this, handheld, ISO 3200: Thanks, but got the RX100 already, which is pretty amazing by the way. And yeah, it was photo's like that I was aiming for. Haven't tested it fully yet but Im sure it could certainly get the same results. Was pretty surprised with the low lighting performance, but then again the last compact I had was an LX1. That X20 certainly does look sexier though, and even has a viewfinder I actually put my eye to the drat camera's non-existing viewfinder a few times today out of habit
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Sterf posted:Thanks, but got the RX100 already, which is pretty amazing by the way. And yeah, it was photo's like that I was aiming for. Haven't tested it fully yet but Im sure it could certainly get the same results. Was pretty surprised with the low lighting performance, but then again the last compact I had was an LX1. That X20 certainly does look sexier though, and even has a viewfinder Enjoy your new toy, Sony compact cameras are awesome (my dad has one, loves it). You can fit an EVF into the RX100, might be worth a closer look? Anyway looking forward to your pics )))
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maxmars posted:Enjoy your new toy, Sony compact cameras are awesome (my dad has one, loves it). drat, I never even considered that possibility, thanks. Would add a lot of bulk though. I'm pretty happy with it as it is at the moment, fits nicely into my pocket.
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Sterf posted:drat, I never even considered that possibility, thanks. Would add a lot of bulk though. I'm pretty happy with it as it is at the moment, fits nicely into my pocket. Not to mention the EVF costs as much as the camera.
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Mr. Despair posted:Not to mention the EVF costs as much as the camera. Yes, just noticed that minor detail. What the hell. gently caress that, I'll learn to do without.
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Man that's not cheap :-O I would expect a great OVF + EVF for that price. On the bright side, you can probably use it on future Sony cameras?
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I'm a complete philistine, so bear with me  I'm thinking about getting a refurbished Fujifilm XF1 before I take a trip to Maine this summer, because I'd like to be able to take pictures of things with a better device than my smartphone. I'm mostly picking this particular camera because I think it looks super classy, is (refurbished) in my price range, and seems to have reviewed okay. Am I shooting myself in the foot by choosing this camera?
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From what little I know, they shoot well but battery lives are on the short end.
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http://slickdeals.net/f/6830074-canon-powershot-s110-12-1mp-digital-camera-black-pro-100-printer-paper-16gb-sd-card-case-198-fs-ar-ac $198 for a Canon S110, Pro-100, 13x19 paper, a lovely case, and a 16GB card after rebate. Yeah, that's a pretty amazing deal. Just bought one so I can have a ~$50-80 Canon S110 after I sell the rest.
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deadly_pudding posted:I'm a complete philistine, so bear with me The XF1 is an excellent camera. But yes, a second battery would be a good idea.
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