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Two Tone Shoes
Jan 2, 2009

All that's missing is the ring.

"I have never read anything involving Wally West or Barry Allen but trust me when I say the relationship is going to be SUPER ORGANIC. It'll be so organic. Organic growth, guys." Everything in this interview makes me think it's gonna be a hot mess as two writers who know jack poo poo about the Flash take over.

I didn't really get the "he's gonna be black" thing unless Iris has a secretly black brother or sister or something, since he's still her nephew(though I suppose Daniel's sown oats could've been with a black woman, that'd be kind of contrived), but if he is it's gonna be pretty outstandingly stupid. Assuming he's anything like Wally West he'll be, for starters, an irresponsible black guy whose character traits are wisecracking and running fast.

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Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
Fun Shoe
Did I miss something, or did they delay the Batman Superman containing part 3 of First Contact while still putting out Worlds Finest containing part 4?

d00gZ
Oct 12, 2002

Original Sin Murderer
Wild Guess #627
Edward Snowden

"My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them."

Space_Butler posted:

Did I miss something, or did they delay the Batman Superman containing part 3 of First Contact while still putting out Worlds Finest containing part 4?

That's exactly what happened, and they even put "part 3" on the cover of Worlds' Finest, like loving goons.

NoMoneyDown
Jan 27, 2009

I've got the advantage. You've got nothing.
At least DC saved me the trouble of buying an extra issue, I guess.

First Contact was yet another DC event that just... thing, and the fact that it's basically responsible for a portion of the standstill that Powergirl got stuck in prior to doesn't help matters.

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

Did anyone pick up the Amanda Waller one-shot? How was it?

spacejung
Feb 8, 2004

Urdnot Fire posted:

Did anyone pick up the Amanda Waller one-shot? How was it?

It's about as sophomoric as they come. Pick it up if you enjoyed Team 7.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
I've liked what Palmiotti has been doing on All Star Western but gently caress him by fridging Gina. I can see the reasons for her death but still gently caress him, she was a great character.

:argh:

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

I've liked what Palmiotti has been doing on All Star Western but gently caress him by fridging Gina. I can see the reasons for her death but still gently caress him, she was a great character.

:argh:

Shouldn't the term be "iced boxing" in this case?

spacejung
Feb 8, 2004

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

I've liked what Palmiotti has been doing on All Star Western but gently caress him by fridging Gina. I can see the reasons for her death but still gently caress him, she was a great character.

:argh:

She's not dead. Jonah brought back a portable defibrillator set from the 21st century. It's in his tobacco pouch.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Thanks for the spoiler! You're wonderful! :)

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

I've liked what Palmiotti has been doing on All Star Western but gently caress him by fridging Gina. I can see the reasons for her death but still gently caress him, she was a great character.

:argh:

I haven't read this so forgive me if I mess something up. But when you say you can see the reasons for her death do you mean they make sense story wise? Because I thought fridging someone was specifically killing a female character specifically to get a rise or motivate a male character and nothing else.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Trast posted:

I haven't read this so forgive me if I mess something up. But when you say you can see the reasons for her death do you mean they make sense story wise? Because I thought fridging someone was specifically killing a female character specifically to get a rise or motivate a male character and nothing else.

Gina died because she wasn't accustomed to the old west extreme conditions. I can understand the logic (she was a city girl after all) but it feels really awful to off her on one issue. Why put her on the story in the first place then?

SirDan3k
Jan 6, 2001

Trust me, you are taking this a lot more seriously then I am.

Trast posted:

I haven't read this so forgive me if I mess something up. But when you say you can see the reasons for her death do you mean they make sense story wise? Because I thought fridging someone was specifically killing a female character specifically to get a rise or motivate a male character and nothing else.

Fridging has become all encompassing, all female character deaths or injuries are now fridging.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

I can see the reasons for her death but still gently caress him, she was a great character.

:argh:

In what ways was she a good character? Maybe I'm biased because the time-travel arc dragged on so long it made me bitter towards anything relating to it, but I don't recall her doing much of anything besides explaining the ways of the present to Jonah (which doesn't count for much since that was done mostly during a time skip, so we didn't get to see any character traits develop. And pretty much every other character he ran into over the course of the arc doing a lot of explaining-the-present, so it wasn't like she was unique in that respect). Oh, and she talked about how much she wanted to gently caress Jonah in various locales a lot. I am hard pressed to think of a reason to care about her or her demise.

I mean, you could call it textbook fridging, but isn't the dead girl supposed to give the man motivation? Jonah never really seemed that interested in her at all in the present as anything beyond a sex object. And what's Jonah supposed to be motivated to do? Kill... harsh western conditions? The Apache that he already killed? The entire Apache nation?

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
I found Gina interesting because she showed herself to be more than a clumsy girl smitten by the badass and brooding Jonah, she wasn't one to stand fo his bullshit and she was constantly calling him out and taking her own decisions.

She was constantly on the role of a victim but what were you expecting? she was only a city girl with no real combat experience.

And I'm hoping her death means something for Jonah because if Palmiotii wanted to get rid of her, he just should've left her on the present. As it stands now I'm getting the message than she was killed by being a stubborn woman who didn't knew better and I found that kind of message way more troubling than the handling of Starfire.

EDIT:

WHAT THE gently caress DC? :cry:



Is from the September's Batman Death of the Family TP and Joker Mask Set. only $39.99 USD

Dark_Tzitzimine fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Mar 27, 2014

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

~Todd McFarlane's Twisted Fairy Tales~

So why is the skin under the mask hosed up at the top of the brow and in the mouth but perfectly fine around the eyes?

I mean, I guess it could be the Joker's Daughter, but then she still cut off like only half of her face? What's the point of that?

Was Taters
Jul 30, 2004

Here comes a regular

Urdnot Fire posted:

Did anyone pick up the Amanda Waller one-shot? How was it?

Thin.

:v:

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Jeff Lemire is doing Teen Titans Earth One with Terry Dodson.


http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=51766 <-Didio interview.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=51760 <- Lemire interview.

Morrison's one is still about a year off. :(

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

SirDan3k posted:

Fridging has become all encompassing, all female character deaths or injuries are now fridging.

Because unless they are the main character they all serve as motivation to the male character.

Sometimes even then.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Teenage Fansub posted:

Jeff Lemire is doing Teen Titans Earth One with Terry Dodson.


http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=51766 <-Didio interview.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=51760 <- Lemire interview.

Morrison's one is still about a year off. :(

Isn't Terry Dodson an artist known by being kind of 'cheesecakey'? Raven :stare: face is freaking me out.

Who's the pretty boy in blue and the white-clad girl?

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

I've liked what Palmiotti has been doing on All Star Western but gently caress him by fridging Gina. I can see the reasons for her death but still gently caress him, she was a great character.

:argh:

Yo. I just read the issue.
How long have you been reading comics? If a character collapses on the last page and is declared 'dead' by someone as a cliffhanger, 99% of the time you do not need to worry.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Mar 28, 2014

Was Taters
Jul 30, 2004

Here comes a regular

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Isn't Terry Dodson an artist known by being kind of 'cheesecakey'? Raven :stare: face is freaking me out.

Who's the pretty boy in blue and the white-clad girl?

White-clad - p sure she's in purple. That's Starfire. I know, hard to recognize when you don't have her tits out on display, but the eyes and skintone are a bit of a give-away.

Blonde guy in 70s hipster hair? Jericho. I wonder if he's still Slade's kid.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Was Taters posted:

White-clad - p sure she's in purple. That's Starfire. I know, hard to recognize when you don't have her tits out on display, but the eyes and skintone are a bit of a give-away.

Blonde guy in 70s hipster hair? Jericho. I wonder if he's still Slade's kid.

Nah, what it really defines Kory is her hair and the orange skin.

That character reminds me more of Solstice.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Isn't Terry Dodson an artist known by being kind of 'cheesecakey'? Raven :stare: face is freaking me out.

Who's the pretty boy in blue and the white-clad girl?

I want to frame this post and hang it on my wall.


Lemire is a good writer and the Dodson's are a good art team so hey DC here is a Teen Titans book that I will give a shot. Though I won't pretend to act surprised when Terra is the bad dude.

Waterhaul fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Mar 28, 2014

Was Taters
Jul 30, 2004

Here comes a regular
Kind of a bummer no Dick Grayson but he's so well-defined in his role with the Titans that you couldn't really use him if you wanted a truly fresh start for the other characters.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Is Earth One a shared universe?

e:

Angry Walrus posted:

the first issue.

Earth One books are graphic novels. I dunno if they have commitments to make sequels. Lemire said he enjoyed that it had an end. I definitely don't see Grant hovering for second WW.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Mar 28, 2014

Angry Walrus
Aug 31, 2013

Quinn it
to
Win it.

Waterhaul posted:

Lemire is a good writer and the Dodson's are a good art team so hey DC here is a Teen Titans book that I will give a shot. Though I won't pretend to act surprise when Terra is the bad dude.

Lemire doesn't even include her in the roster he lists in the interview, so she probably goes bad in, like, the first issue.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Teenage Fansub posted:

Is Earth One a shared universe?


I want to say yes that Batman: Earth One comments on Superman existing or visa versa but those books are also horrible and I've tried to forget as much as possible about them.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Teenage Fansub posted:

Jeff Lemire is doing Teen Titans Earth One with Terry Dodson.

For a minute I misread that as "with Terry Long" and thought the Earth One curse was continuing without even TRYING to hide...

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.

Waterhaul posted:

I want to frame this post and hang it on my wall.


Lemire is a good writer and the Dodson's are a good art team so hey DC here is a Teen Titans book that I will give a shot. Though I won't pretend to act surprised when Terra is the bad dude.

To go one step further, I'm not going to be impressed when someone finally gets around to writing a story where she acts mad sketchy but the "twist" is that she's good. Part of what made the Amanda Conner Terra fresh & interesting was that she had no baggage.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

HitTheTargets posted:

To go one step further, I'm not going to be impressed when someone finally gets around to writing a story where she acts mad sketchy but the "twist" is that she's good. Part of what made the Amanda Conner Terra fresh & interesting was that she had no baggage.

If anyone was going to write it will be Brad Meltzer. Who could forget this? http://bradmeltzer.com/other-works/how-i-spent-my-summer-vacation-with-the-judas-contract/

Scuba Trooper
Feb 25, 2006

Teenage Fansub posted:

Is Earth One a shared universe?

Think so. He mentions that he didn't include Robin because he hadn't appeared in Batman yet (and Wonder Girl).

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Speaking of Lemire, more on his Justice League United character

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/03/28/meet-equiniox-the-new-cree-member-of-the-justice-league/
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/equinox-new-cree-teen-superhero-joins-dc-comics-lineup-1.2588623
http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Arts%20and%20Entertainment/ID/2445157268/ <-- video interview showing some pages.

goldenoreos
Jan 5, 2012

Take care of my animals while I'm gone

Was Taters posted:

Kind of a bummer no Dick Grayson but he's so well-defined in his role with the Titans that you couldn't really use him if you wanted a truly fresh start for the other characters.

Pretty sure Johns is writing a Nightwing Earth One book and maybe a Batgirl one

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Isn't Terry Dodson an artist known by being kind of 'cheesecakey'? Raven :stare: face is freaking me out.


Yep, and usually works with his wife Rachel Dodson. They have a long experience of coding their pornyness successfully enough to avoid Catwoman (EDIT: or RHatO) levels of disapproval, and since a woman is involved I guess it is automatically 50% less problematic on the standard scale?

EDIT: I don't really like them myself. Their skill at flat, utilitarian (if poppy) craftsmanship only enhances the instrumentality of the image, that is to say, its purpose as an item of slick and easy consumption. The consumption of loving gigantic tits.

PoontifexMacksimus fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Mar 29, 2014

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Aren't they the current cover artists on Catwoman?

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Terry Dodson is a legit good artist. His Spider-Man book was gorgeous.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Teenage Fansub posted:

Is Earth One a shared universe?

e:


Earth One books are graphic novels. I dunno if they have commitments to make sequels. Lemire said he enjoyed that it had an end. I definitely don't see Grant hovering for second WW.

Help me out here. They've got Earth One, Earth Two and New52?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

coconono posted:

Help me out here. They've got Earth One, Earth Two and New52?

Earth One is a line of super lovely graphic novels. Earth 2 is a pretty good solo comic. Earth 3 is where these evil dicks in Forever Evil came from.

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Baby Broomer
Feb 19, 2013

coconono posted:

Help me out here. They've got Earth One, Earth Two and New52?

If I understand it right the New52niverse is called Earth-Prime.

Which, pre-Flashpoint, was the name given to... us. We were Earth-Prime, the original world. Or at least, it was a world meant to be the most like us.

But in the current DC multiverse the series that we all read all take place on Earth-Prime.

There is also a chance I'm an idiot and wrong, but this is how they designated them last I remember.

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