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Dusseldorf posted:I mean she's kind of lame, I guess. More of a privacy thing at least around here.
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The Maroon Hawk posted:Colorado hates California because y'all keep moving here, but can't seem to stop going on and on and on about California and how its so much better because This is the entirety of Highlands ranch
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computer parts posted:More of a privacy thing at least around here. She's also made more self-wealth off human conflict than Jack Murtha ever did. And that bastard was a crook.
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Apr 9, 2014 19:24
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I have a similar irrational hatred of Wisconsinites. Those fuckers deserve all the bad things that will ever happen to them for voting out Russ Feingold. 
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Apr 9, 2014 19:31
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TenementFunster posted:yeah, that's it. gently caress you, idiot. Having grown up in Houston I can tell you that you are 100% wrong. Houston is shithole #1, Dallas shithole #2 and Austin trailing behind as shithole #3. gently caress Texas. When you can't leave the house for 8+ months out of the year because it is 90% humidity outside, there is no reason to live there. Moving to CO was the best thing I've done in my life. It is funny seeing just how aggressively people from Cali will go to ignore you when out in public here in CO though. I can always tell the people from the south, because if I'm standing in line and I say something, they acknowledge that I exist.
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Apr 9, 2014 20:39
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I think politeness is correlated with population density.
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Apr 9, 2014 21:36
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Dusseldorf posted:I mean she's kind of lame, I guess. Her hypocritical stance on guns is really the least bad thing. The gutting of intellectual property rights as well as the literal witch-hunt she leads trying to stomp out 'piracy' via government censorship is deplorable. The fact that you dismiss criticism about her because of "mah gunz" which is also an important right, just further demonstrates how loving terrible Californians and supporters are. You are so ignorant of the real-world, that grossly destructive policies as perpetuated by her, and California politicians in general, is just "kind of lame" to you. Goddamn!
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Apr 9, 2014 21:59
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So which is it is she gutting intellectual property rights or is she bolstering them by going after piracy?
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McDowell posted:I think politeness is correlated with population density. New Jersey is the most densely populated state though.
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computer parts posted:New Jersey is the most densely populated state though. He didn't say it was positively correlated with density!
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If we're done with the "Your state sucks" pissing contest, some news out of Washington state: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/04/08/retail-marijuana-sales-in-washington-face-regulatory-delays/ The first retail stores probably won't open until July. For some reason the number of retail stores is capped at 334 and they've got a convoluted system that separates sellers, growers, and processors. Of course we need more time to tell, but Colorado's model looks to be the superior one. AYC fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Apr 9, 2014 22:44
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No one's state "sucks" unless you are a regionalist fuckwad, though Washington's legalization framework certainly does.Install Windows posted:So which is it is she gutting intellectual property rights or is she bolstering them by going after piracy? Yea that is a real head scratcher, perhaps the smartest kid in America could figure it out on xis own?
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Powercrazy posted:No one's state "sucks" unless you are a regionalist fuckwad, though Washington's legalization framework certainly does. Someone hasn't been to Iowa.
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The LA Times is reporting that cannabis legalisation has turned into a disaster!quote:Authorities are calling the incident the state’s first marijuana-related death since Colorado legalized sales of recreational marijuana at the beginning of the year to those over 21. ... a former White House drug advisor calling you mob out over it: quote:Silence among legalizers about CO's first post-legalization marijuana related death is striking. "Ban banana peels then!" deserves no reply. KingEup fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Powercrazy posted:No one's state "sucks" unless you are a regionalist fuckwad, though Washington's legalization framework certainly does. Either that, or this whole decriminalization movement has been supported by libertarians who didn't expect washington state to put in a reasonable amount of control and are now making GBS threads on them for daring to act in its people's interests.
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Powercrazy posted:Yea that is a real head scratcher, perhaps the smartest kid in America could figure it out on xis own? Show me where Feinstein has ever gutted intellectual property rights.
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Apr 9, 2014 23:59
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To be fair about this pot death there probably do need to be limitations or warnings that come with edibles, it's way too easy to get yourself in a bad state for a very long time. Weed has this reputation of just making you relaxed or giddy or whatever but the good stuff can be really unbelievably powerful.
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A friend of mine freaked out and had suicidal thoughts with an edible once too. If anything this is a good argument for facilitating medical research so there's more knowledge about why people react so differently.
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McDowell posted:A friend of mine freaked out and had suicidal thoughts with an edible once too. If anything this is a good argument for facilitating medical research so there's more knowledge about why people react so differently. Schedule I makes that really hard. Maybe it could happen through state funding where it's legal. Even then it would probably need to be run by a Ph.D. or an M.D. who doesn't care about his CSA license. That's likely to make an IRB skeptical.
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KernelSlanders posted:Schedule I makes that really hard. Hopefully this is going to change in the next couple years.
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Apr 10, 2014 00:24
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Install Windows posted:Show me where Feinstein has ever gutted intellectual property rights. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act Extending Copyrights perpetually is gutting intellectual property rights. Because the purpose of copyrights, or patents if you want to be pedantic, is to encourage creativity and innovation. By allowing the unchecked accumulation of IP, you effectively lockout future content producers into the market place of the ideas, creating a monopoly and undermining their very purpose.
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Powercrazy posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act 
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Anyone more savvy about New York politics than me wanna comment on NY's chance of legal/medical/decrim by the end of this year? I think the mayor and governor are both on board. If NJ gets legal weed before NYC I'll never forgive myself
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Powercrazy posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act So you're saying that strengthening ip rights rolls them over to negative property rights? You're an idiot. PS IP rights have always been about creating monopolies, patents are literally monopolies granted by the state.
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Install Windows posted:PS IP rights have always been about creating monopolies, patents are literally monopolies granted by the state. Except patents and copyright were originally envisioned with expiration dates, at a certain point things enter the public domain. This element has been under assault for awhile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_Copyright_bill Disney could conceivably hold on to Mickey forever as a trademark but then they would lose the ability to control 80 year old cartoons.
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McDowell posted:Except patents and copyright were originally envisioned with expiration dates, at a certain point things enter the public domain. This element has been under assault for awhile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_Copyright_bill No one has been proposing patents with unlimited terms. And infinite copyright is essentially the least gutted IP right possible.
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KernelSlanders posted:Schedule I makes that really hard. Maybe it could happen through state funding where it's legal. Even then it would probably need to be run by a Ph.D. or an M.D. who doesn't care about his CSA license. That's likely to make an IRB skeptical. We had exactly this discussion today in a room full of researchers and industry representatives. Academia can't dose but we can observe so we're writing up grants to recruit several cohorts for different purposes; pulmonary, edible, testing medicinal claims, just about everything we can think of. Anyone out there that has done significant research in specific areas that is interested in pointing out current holes in research will be listened too - peer reviewed manuscripts pointing out holes primarily but searches that return zero results will also be considered. We MAY try for a comprehensive review of gaps and priorities and shoot for a publication in a high end general science journal to get good distribution. Don't know about that one just yet though. The state funding will have to be filtered through academic and institutional interpretation of federal laws which is a fairly huge pile of poo poo at the moment. The DEA/NIDA research standards can take years to address and by that time GW will have specific CBD combinations patented which will be an even huger pile of poo poo. I'm not happy with GW at the moment, this should be whole plant research and THEN drilling into specific proteins. There is also a company that shall go unnamed that has a research staff in place with interest in genetics, plant microbiome, strain composition and several other cool biochem irons in the fire. I'm still very skeptical that academia will be really cutting edge due to administration crap but we MIGHT be able to help industry do some very cool studies that we can't do.
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Install Windows posted:And infinite copyright is essentially the least gutted IP right possible. At a certain point things should enter public domain, I wasn't agreeing with the gutted IP right claim - just agreeing with criticism of Feinstein for pushing legal changes that benefit the entertainment industry at the expense of the commons. But this has nothing to do with weed so I won't continue.
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My biggest beef with Feinstein [aside from the hypocritical gun stance part, she used to conceal carry daily] would be her support of the NSA poo poo. It's helped us bust countless terrorists according to the good senator. gently caress that lady.
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Isn't Feinstein: One of those arguing for pulling things out of the public domain. Vociferiously opposed to any limitations on government security power, and in fact was instrumental in neutering the FISA court A blatant supporter of putting the younger generation under as much education debt as possible A major supporter of SOPA and PIPA Fully supported the war in Iraq Fully support the Patriot Act and thinks it was a good thing even now Opposes immigration, except in the most abusive form (no matter which of her multiple stances you look at, the common person and the hopeful immigrant lose) Full-fledged support of the expansion of capital punishment Sponsored a constitutional amendment to ban free speech where it disrespects the flag one of those who voted in favor of unilateral US censorship of the Internet by voting in favor of COICA Sponsored legislation to mandate DRM Supported the bailout while opposing any and all regulations to prevent such a thing from happening again Honestly, is there anything about her to like? The only good positions she seems to hold are an inevitable (we're winning the war on homophobia, we really don't need her for that) and the environment (Which seem legitimately good). She's your normal totalitarian incompetent, from what I can see.
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GlyphGryph posted:Isn't Feinstein: She's a Democrat and would therefore support Obama's Supreme Court nominees, budget, etc., while opposing Republican budgets, nominees, etc. And she's releasing the CIA torture report because the CIA got sassy with her staffers. That's about it.
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Has there been any talk of strain specific legislation? Or maximum THC% or anything like that? Because something like that would be disappointing given how inherently limiting that type of legislation is. I could see it opening the door to a company like Monsanto coming in and crafting legislation that makes their strains the only legal strains available. I'm wondering specifically in the light of the moral panic that may be created with suicides "caused by weed overdose."
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http://www.cpr.org/news/story/marijuana-edibles-grow-popularity-caution-urged There are two bills in the Colorado legislature regarding concentrates/edibles. Lawmakers seem to be mostly worried about kids eating edibles, so the first bill would require the actual food to be stamped, colored, or shaped in a way that signifies it contains marijuana. This could be a pain in the rear end for manufacturers, but I think it's a good idea since kids will eat anything that looks remotely like candy or treats.
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TheManWithNoName posted:http://www.cpr.org/news/story/marijuana-edibles-grow-popularity-caution-urged And they would never eat the green brownies that are for mommies and daddies only.
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TheManWithNoName posted:http://www.cpr.org/news/story/marijuana-edibles-grow-popularity-caution-urged Sad that we need laws because parents can't keep their drugs out of the reach of children. Be adults and store it like prescription drugs. These laws won't protect children if they can still grab it out of the cupboard or off the counter.
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Put 'em in that really high cabinet where you keep all your liquor. No way your kid could reach that. Hell, put a padlock on it if you're really worried.
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AYC posted:Put 'em in that really high cabinet where you keep all your liquor. No way your kid could reach that. Hell, put a padlock on it if you're really worried. I know you are joking, but really that is the best solution. Kids will experiment with things especially if they see their parents doing them, regardless of what they look like. I don't think this should be a legislative issue, its on the parents to educate and supervise what their kids do, not the manufacturers.
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I still think the majority of the time kids are getting cannabis anything is due to the prevalence of dealers in the form of medical card holders. They don't check ID and because of the retarded prices for recreational its always cheaper to go through them.
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ColoradoCleric posted:I still think the majority of the time kids are getting cannabis anything is due to the prevalence of dealers in the form of medical card holders. They don't check ID and because of the retarded prices for recreational its always cheaper to go through them. I'm going to doubt that recreational pricing have any effect on ways to get cannabis. It's only been available legally for less than a year or two.
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computer parts posted:I'm going to doubt that recreational pricing have any effect on ways to get cannabis. It's only been available legally for less than a year or two. A lot of people will take advantage of the low effort of going through recreational stores but the 4X markup also has a significant portion of the people still going through medical card holders.
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