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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Gonzo McFee posted:

Any time I end up having to go to church it's about the gays.

They also have a go at Landlords and bankers so I end up leaving conflicted.

The only acceptable course of action is for you to start renting from a gay landlord. You'll still be conflicted, but I've always wanted to find out if it's possible to power a perpetual motion machine with frustrated rage.

E: 1921 - car tax discs are introduced, and the Irish Free State is created.

Jedit fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Apr 10, 2014

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
A gay landlord who bought the property with a female loan from a muslim bank.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Puntification posted:

His opinion still isn't persecution even if it's inaccurate and/or unfair.

Not at all, but it is stupid and a good example of Dawkinsesque smug atheism

Greblin
Mar 12, 2008
A friend of mine has just been rejected by student finance due to him already having 3 of his 5 years worth of loans. However 2 of those are basically due to the college he attended messing up, and he had to leave that course anyway. Does anyone know anything he can do to sort this out, or is he screwed?

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Jedit posted:

The only acceptable course of action is for you to start renting from a gay landlord. You'll still be conflicted, but I've always wanted to find out if it's possible to power a perpetual motion machine with frustrated rage.

"A perpetual motion machine powered with frustrated rage" is on my family crest.

I say family crest, I mean one of those singing bass things with the eyes cut out.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

peanut- posted:

I grew up going to church every week (evil Catholic church even) and the only thing priests ever talked about was that maybe we should all share things and be nice to each other. It never seemed terribly malicious tbh.

The new rector at my local CoE can't get through a single sermon without stressing the importance of shame, it's pretty :smithicide:

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

marktheando posted:

Yeah I know, it just strikes me as pretty pathetic. Either the bible is the word of god or it isn't. Stop being a Christian if you realise many of the religion's beliefs are repellant.


You have a book-based notion of religion, probably derived from Protestantism or Islam: but that's a very narrow section of human religious experience. Other people can regard any book as a book, and still be Christian. The creeds most Christians recite don't mention biblical authorship at all.

e: accuracy

Saki
Jan 9, 2008

Can't you feel the knife?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/nigel-evans-found-not-guilty-in-preston-rape-and-sex-assault-trial-9251693.html

Can't say I'm surprised.

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

Greblin posted:

A friend of mine has just been rejected by student finance due to him already having 3 of his 5 years worth of loans. However 2 of those are basically due to the college he attended messing up, and he had to leave that course anyway. Does anyone know anything he can do to sort this out, or is he screwed?

He's screwed unless hes got a *lot* of official paperwork confirming this story. And I mean *A LOT*, notarised if need be.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

Still a sleazy groping gently caress though.

Bozza
Mar 5, 2004

"I'm a really useful engine!"
No pirates in Penzance. This is loving bullshit.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
Any farmers? I hear pirates are basically the same as farmers but with boats instead of cows.

Phoon
Apr 23, 2010


UKMT: April 14 - Long-term Despair

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Renaissance Robot posted:

Any farmers? I hear pirates are basically the same as farmers but with boats instead of cows.

My great great great grandfather got pressganged once, he got blind drunk in Wiltshire and woke up tied to a plow.

CancerCakes
Jan 10, 2006

Greblin posted:

A friend of mine has just been rejected by student finance due to him already having 3 of his 5 years worth of loans. However 2 of those are basically due to the college he attended messing up, and he had to leave that course anyway. Does anyone know anything he can do to sort this out, or is he screwed?

Moneybox on r4 had a program that mentioned student loans this week, you can probably get it on iplayer. TLDR was that he is almost certainly hosed.

The report was about a mature student who sold their house and moved to study, and received full loans and grants due to being on a social worker course. Then student loans company pulled the loan after a year, claiming the person shouldn't have received it, and demanded repayment, despite the fact that they had advised him that he was entitled to it, and given it to him. It was a pretty shocking story.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

That is rather disturbing seeing as I am exactly that position. (im on a STEM course but apart from that its pretty much identical)

Strangley though I just got randomly awarded a £1000 bursery from the university that I dont remember applying for, im pretty sure I didnt apply for it at all. :iiam:

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Serotonin posted:

Still a sleazy groping gently caress though.

Who regularly gets blind drunk and aggressively propositions much younger junior colleagues. He leaves court without a stain on his character, however!

Lethal Drizzle
Feb 24, 2011

Fluo posted:

It made me suicidal, the worst thing was being told "I Didn't Know What An Orange Booker" was during the general election. :negative:


I warned goons but it fell silent.


lol.

Coming out of lurking to tell you that it was mainly your posts that stopped me from being sucked in by "Cleggmania", I came dangerously close to voting for them at one point.

Alecto
Feb 11, 2014

Seaside Loafer posted:

Strangley though I just got randomly awarded a £1000 bursery from the university that I dont remember applying for, im pretty sure I didnt apply for it at all. :iiam:

There are loads of bursaries flying around for STEM degrees these days. Usually still dependent on pre-university qualifications and your available income though, not for just generally existing.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Lethal Drizzle posted:

Coming out of lurking

Another Drizzle? I don't think I can take much more housing bubble commentary

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
Loanchat is always depressing. It's worth mentioning for those still at uni in the thread, a lot of universities have hardship funds, and if for any reason you're struggling to make ends meet, you should be using them.

I got the minimal means-tested loan because although my parents were separated they weren't officially so, which left me short about £6000/year. I ended up working 3 days a week in a nightclub for the first few years but my grades suffered. Last few years I applied to the fund and the first time I went the advisor was genuinely angry with me for not doing so sooner.

At least at my uni, the bar was very low: they asked for a couple of months of bank account statements, determined how much I needed in order to live normally (which included, to my surprise, an allowance for socialising), and gave me the difference between this and my income. This was a payment, not a loan.

It's way better to take this and do well at your degree than to hurt your chances because you're too proud. I'm glad I found out when I did.

Lethal Drizzle
Feb 24, 2011

KKKlean Energy posted:

Another Drizzle? I don't think I can take much more housing bubble commentary

Haha no worries on that front, I try my hardest to understand housingbubble chat but my eyes tend to start to glaze over halfway through lemon's posts.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

StarkingBarfish posted:

Loanchat is always depressing. It's worth mentioning for those still at uni in the thread, a lot of universities have hardship funds, and if for any reason you're struggling to make ends meet, you should be using them.

I got the minimal means-tested loan because although my parents were separated they weren't officially so, which left me short about £6000/year. I ended up working 3 days a week in a nightclub for the first few years but my grades suffered. Last few years I applied to the fund and the first time I went the advisor was genuinely angry with me for not doing so sooner.

At least at my uni, the bar was very low: they asked for a couple of months of bank account statements, determined how much I needed in order to live normally (which included, to my surprise, an allowance for socialising), and gave me the difference between this and my income. This was a payment, not a loan.

It's way better to take this and do well at your degree than to hurt your chances because you're too proud. I'm glad I found out when I did.

Yes do this. Go to academic advisers/admin and ask for help both with dealing with the SLC and possibly getting hardship funds. My life and degree have been saved thanks to the incredible help I've had from my university's services.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Lethal Drizzle posted:

Coming out of lurking to tell you that it was mainly your posts that stopped me from being sucked in by "Cleggmania", I came dangerously close to voting for them at one point.

This, but not. I didn't listen and have been kicking myself ever since. I agreed with Nick :smith:

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

sebzilla posted:

This, but not. I didn't listen and have been kicking myself ever since. I agreed with Nick :smith:
I forgot to register and didn't vote in the last general election. :smuggo:

Paul.Power
Feb 7, 2009

The three roles of APCs:
Transports.
Supply trucks.
Distractions.

The funny part is, Clegg turned me off the Lib Dems: I voted Lib Dem in 2005, but Labour in 2010.

There were a few factors in play (was voting in Cambridge in 2005 but Swansea East in 2010, the wave of anti-war and anti-tuition fees sentiment heightened by being at university in 2005, the fact that the Tories were a much bigger threat in 2010, just generally feeling sorry for Gordon Brown after all the media attacks on him, etc.) but part of it was that I just plain didn't like Clegg much.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I looked through the LibDem manifesto in 2010 and thought to myself "There's no way they could implement any of this".

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.

Weldon Pemberton posted:

Yes do this. Go to academic advisers/admin and ask for help both with dealing with the SLC and possibly getting hardship funds. My life and degree have been saved thanks to the incredible help I've had from my university's services.

You're welcome - A Taxpayer (lol bullshit education should be free, rinse them for all you can)

Also balls to the lib dems. Do what I did and be one of the 75 people in my ward who voted for the Alliance for Workers Liberty, until you realised they were trots and regretted it.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






I voted for the Greens at Brighton Pavilion and Caroline Lucas won the seat. No regrets here.

Now I'm living with my family, and my constituency is solid Tory and has been for decades.

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



Gorn Myson posted:

I voted for the Greens at Brighton Pavilion and Caroline Lucas won the seat. No regrets here.

Now I'm living with my family, and my constituency is solid Tory and has been for decades.

My vote never goes towards the party leader, or the local MP. Its all irrelevant as, like where you are now, there is no chance short of a teeny tiny revolution of unseating our Mr Burns.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Oh definitely, I won't be voting for anyone in the next election or in any other elections for that matter.

In the last local elections I prototyped an elaborate drawing of a cock as a way of spoiling my vote, and in the national elections I'm hoping to roll out the finished design.

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



Its not really important, but it looks like Sue Townsend has died. After first reading them as a kid I liked being re-reading the Mole books at different points in my life and picking up on the different nuances.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Trickjaw posted:

Its not really important, but it looks like Sue Townsend has died. After first reading them as a kid I liked being re-reading the Mole books at different points in my life and picking up on the different nuances.

No official confirmation yet, but I'm not surprised. She was 68, chairbound, registered blind and had a stroke last year. She didn't expect to go on much longer. Still sad, but more in the sense that she deserved better than "taken too soon".

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



Jedit posted:

No official confirmation yet, but I'm not surprised. She was 68, chairbound, registered blind and had a stroke last year. She didn't expect to go on much longer. Still sad, but more in the sense that she deserved better than "taken too soon".

Oh yeah, totally. But she loving hated tories, and thats always a plus.

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

Fluo posted:

It kind of was at the time as it was easier to reuse the fabric because if the clothing had mixed fabrics because harder to reuse. Also the text is slightly different depending on which bible you read, some talk about wearing fabric others talk about having a piece of clothing made out of 1 type of fabric. Early times recycling. :shepface:


Also just for the record I'm not religious at all, just brought up having to do bible studies and such in a lefty church.

Yeah sure I can understand that (outside of the context of wilfully lying that you'll be put on a divine naughty list for not trusting me and DOING IT BECAUSE I SAID SO DAMMIT).

Now explain the scapegoat. :colbert:

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Interesting observation to make about Saajid Javid becoming the Equalities Minister: he's only the third person to ever hold an equalities brief who wasn't a straight white woman. The other two are Helen Grant, currently the Minister of Sport under Javid, and Michael Foster, who was a parliamentary undersecretary under Harriet Harman. No LGBT person has ever held an equalities brief. :smith:

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



TinTower posted:

Interesting observation to make about Saajid Javid becoming the Equalities Minister: he's only the third person to ever hold an equalities brief who wasn't a straight white woman. The other two are Helen Grant, currently the Minister of Sport under Javid, and Michael Foster, who was a parliamentary undersecretary under Harriet Harman. No LGBT person has ever held an equalities brief. :smith:

Your kind of wishing for the moon on a stick there. But, if it all goes wrong again, Nigel Evans is available once more ( even though I dont think he thinks of equality as mosy do).

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Trickjaw posted:

Your kind of wishing for the moon on a stick there. But, if it all goes wrong again, Nigel Evans is available once more ( even though I dont think he thinks of equality as mosy do).

I don't see why not; I can think of four current Ministers off the top of my head who are openly LGBT, one of which attends full Cabinet.

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



TinTower posted:

I don't see why not; I can think of four current Ministers off the top of my head who are openly LGBT, one of which attends full Cabinet.

I don't see a good reason why not either, but I doubt they would risk the heartland (real or imagined) outrage. It might well end up being self-defeating if the Mail et al spin it as 'self serving'.

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Bagpuss
Mar 23, 2001

A little bit of solidarity goes a long way.

Trickjaw posted:

Its not really important, but it looks like Sue Townsend has died. After first reading them as a kid I liked being re-reading the Mole books at different points in my life and picking up on the different nuances.

drat :smith: I grew up with the Adrian Mole books, even had a choose your own adventure style one on the C64. As you said it's certainly good to revisit them as you grow up, might have to bust them out again. I don't think I ever finished the last one.

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