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Quest For Glory II posted:Have the Pats even.. like.. drafted well, at all, in the past few years, is my real question. I guess maybe some of 2010 was good? Yeah? From 2010 on their drafting has been quite good. 2006-2009 was loving dreadful though, yeah.
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Krackleburt posted:Brock Osweiler, I guess? That's about it. Curtis Painter
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Apr 11, 2014 20:12
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I thoght "narrative" was that the patriots were draft wizards.
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Krackleburt posted:Brock Osweiler, I guess? That's about it. Holy poo poo that 2010 QB draft class was baaaaaad
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PrinceRandom posted:I thoght "narrative" was that the patriots were draft wizards. That's the narrative in the media as long as Billy B. is there and they're winning. He's still riding the draft guru reputation because of the 6th round Tom Brady pick despite being pretty lovely at evaluating QBs. They are actually pretty bad at drafting in general and field some shallow teams when it comes to depth.
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PrinceRandom posted:I thoght "narrative" was that the patriots were draft wizards. Honestly I think general reputation for drafting tends to end up being 4-5 years out of date due to how long classes take to develop. But yeah, the Patriots were quite good in the front half of the 2000's, really, really bad over the 2nd half, and pretty good from 2010 on.
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Febreeze posted:Holy poo poo that 2010 QB draft class was baaaaaad The best part about that draft were Goons drinking the poison on Dan Lefevour.
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Febreeze posted:Holy poo poo that 2010 QB draft class was baaaaaad Yeah, that's why people start cringing when people lay down the "You're not going to succeed without a QB!" draft approach. They're kinda right, but you're also not gonna succeed if you're drafting Jimmy Clausen
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Doltos posted:The best part about that draft were Goons drinking the poison on Dan Lefevour. That's because he owns a whole bunch.
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Apr 11, 2014 20:31
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Doltos posted:The best part about that draft were Goons drinking the poison on Dan Lefevour. Dan LeFevour was the next Brett Favre before the Bears ruined him 
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Apr 11, 2014 20:33
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Kalli posted:Yeah, that's why people start cringing when people lay down the "You're not going to succeed without a QB!" draft approach. Honestly the one constant draft strategy I subscribe to besides "draft a franchise QB" is draft by BPA.
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Apr 11, 2014 20:35
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Draft Strategies are hosed up and weird imo
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Apr 11, 2014 20:38
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pretty sure people loved The Fever like people love Jordan Lynch
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Apr 11, 2014 20:40
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Groucho Marxist posted:pretty sure people loved The Fever like people love Jordan Lynch HB passes are a thing that happen.
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Apr 11, 2014 20:44
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Agreed in that both should have won the Heisman.
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Apr 11, 2014 20:47
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Dan LeFevour is basically the best QB college football has seen in a decade
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Apr 11, 2014 20:55
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Manziel scored a 32 on the Wonderlic. First ballot HoF
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So that "Falling to the Niners Next Year" thing might actually happenquote:@GeorgeSchroeder 18m
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Groucho Marxist posted:pretty sure people loved The Fever like people love Jordan Lynch I'm not accusing him of anything but MattW (Quest for Glory [SA names are stupid compared to IRC shorthand names]) legitimately thought Lefevour would be a great NFL QB. We all have those prospects that we irrationally think highly of though.
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Doltos posted:I'm not accusing him of anything but MattW (Quest for Glory [SA names are stupid compared to IRC shorthand names]) legitimately thought Lefevour would be a great NFL QB. We all have those prospects that we irrationally think highly of though. Sure, Mr. Wrong About Quarterbacks
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You know, Jeff Garcia had to spend some time in the CFL before the NFL realized its mistake.
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DupaDupa posted:So that "Falling to the Niners Next Year" thing might actually happen I bet LSU is on the horn with him as we speak.
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Alouicious posted:Sure, Mr. Wrong About Quarterbacks about isn't my middle name :/
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DupaDupa posted:So that "Falling to the Niners Next Year" thing might actually happen He fought a girl in the street or something? What happens next? Does he go to a lower tier school next year and then take his chances in the draft?
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The Puppy Bowl posted:He fought a girl in the street or something? That's a hell of a way to characterize kicking down a door, pushing a girl down some stairs, and grabbing another girl by the neck and dragging her outside
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Apr 11, 2014 21:31
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Puppy Bowl thinks Ray Rice and his wife were dancing tho
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Meaningless Wonderlic scores Jeff Mathews 40 Johnny Manziel 32 Blake Bortles 28 Teddy Bridgewater 20
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Apr 11, 2014 21:42
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Quest For Glory II posted:Johnny Manziel 32 JFF: A scholar and a gentleman
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Quest For Glory II posted:Meaningless Wonderlic scores Wait Johnny is the party-hard retard and Teddy is the football savant my narratives are being crushed  (I still want Teddy  )
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Groucho Marxist posted:That's a hell of a way to characterize kicking down a door, pushing a girl down some stairs, and grabbing another girl by the neck and dragging her outside Maybe she made a Bend It Like Beckham joke? We don't know the full story yet
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Apr 11, 2014 22:23
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Rap posted:Puppy Bowl thinks Ray Rice and his wife were dancing tho No, he hit her. It's just that I believe all women deserve to be hit because I'm a particularly stupid monster.
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Apr 11, 2014 22:43
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Blaine Gabbert scored a 42 on the Wonderlic so
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I believe I read that the only 2 positions that the Wonderlic score had any correlation to success were TE and CB and they had a negative correlation
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Morris Claiborne scored a 4 and it didn't affect his draft stock.
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Parmesan Basil posted:I bet LSU is on the horn with him as we speak. I think he has to go to a FCS school for at least a year a la Janoris Jenkins, but gently caress if I know how the eligibility stuff actually works. I do know he's not eligible for the supplemental draft this year, because he was a true sophomore.
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Krackleburt posted:2010: Jonathan Crompton is a 5th Round Pick It still blows me away to this day that he was draftable at all. He just was not very good at Tennessee, knew him in Grad School nice enough guy though. Went from possibly the worst statistical QB in SEC history in Fulmer's last year to a 5th round draft pick with Kiffin. MIND BOGGLING>
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Intruder posted:Blaine Gabbert scored a 42 on the Wonderlic so The Wonderlic doesn't score "ability to not be terrified by phantom pass rushers". 
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Grozz Nuy posted:I think he has to go to a FCS school for at least a year a la Janoris Jenkins, but gently caress if I know how the eligibility stuff actually works. I do know he's not eligible for the supplemental draft this year, because he was a true sophomore. He would actually go to a Div 2 school because FCS is still considered Division 1. Also, since he was cut from the team, I am not entirely sure if the transfer rules apply since he has been released of his scholarship.
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The Notorious ZSB posted:It still blows me away to this day that he was draftable at all. He just was not very good at Tennessee, knew him in Grad School nice enough guy though. Went from possibly the worst statistical QB in SEC history in Fulmer's last year to a 5th round draft pick with Kiffin. MIND BOGGLING> This is not what I, an Alabama fan, want to hear
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