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ChampRamp posted:Tenzan is pretty bad now, but Kojima is still pretty good. They're the New Age Outlaws of Japan. At Dontaku last year, they got the biggest reception of the night after the top three guys (Okada, Tanahashi, and Nakamura, in that order if memory serves). Their act is well known, their spots are well known, Koji can go enough to carry them. It's sad, and they need more heavyweight non-gaijin tag teams to help the division. Maybe Makabe plus somebody else should drop down and take a run at the belts? Dave's right -- third show in a week in Tokyo, no IWGP title defense, and biggest crowd in a while? Dang. Things are picking up.
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 06:14 |
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harperdc posted:They're the New Age Outlaws of Japan. At Dontaku last year, they got the biggest reception of the night after the top three guys (Okada, Tanahashi, and Nakamura, in that order if memory serves). Their act is well known, their spots are well known, Koji can go enough to carry them. It's sad, and they need more heavyweight non-gaijin tag teams to help the division. Maybe Makabe plus somebody else should drop down and take a run at the belts? There's another side to that crowd. Reports were that the advance was better than KoPW 2013 and that a sell out was possible and in the end it fell short of KoPW. So they did a big crowd, but the way they booked the show could be looked at as a negative since the crowd didn't live up to the advance.
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 06:49 |
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harperdc posted:Maybe Makabe plus somebody else should drop down and take a run at the belts? Honma's got this, just tell him to never go for Kokeshi.
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 10:05 |
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Tonfa posted:Honma's got this, just tell him to never go for Kokeshi. Honma's over and a good wrestler, I'd honestly having no problem seeing him as more than just the designated job guy in multi mans.
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 12:09 |
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MassRafTer posted:There's another side to that crowd. Reports were that the advance was better than KoPW 2013 and that a sell out was possible and in the end it fell short of KoPW. So they did a big crowd, but the way they booked the show could be looked at as a negative since the crowd didn't live up to the advance. Jax Dane puts butts in seats brother.
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 16:26 |
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Push Honma
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 17:22 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eVet_DXq_0
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 17:56 |
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Why hasn't NJPW sent my check yet? They blatantly stole their booking for AJ from the ROH thread. Jado and Gedo live their gimmick.
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 18:47 |
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Guy at 1:06 reacts to these wrestlemans on his baseball field like he just saw the streak end.
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 20:15 |
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how did that ump not get rainmakered??
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 20:37 |
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Seeing Nakamura being unable to stand still at all reminds me that I desperately want to see Nakamura vs Ambrose, though I'm not sure any ring would be able to contain that much Swag/Sleaze.
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 22:19 |
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Nice that they're making some public appearances on their Taiwan trip.
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# ? Apr 12, 2014 00:28 |
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Germansimp posted:Seeing Nakamura being unable to stand still at all reminds me that I desperately want to see Nakamura vs Ambrose, though I'm not sure any ring would be able to contain that much Swag/Sleaze. That would probably be a drat good match. They'd have to burn the ring afterwards, though.
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# ? Apr 12, 2014 13:20 |
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Seriously though, how does Gedo even SEE.
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# ? Apr 12, 2014 13:24 |
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Seriously though, how does Gedo even SEE. He hides an all-seeing Third Eye under his bandana that can see through everything, his two regular eyes are just for decoration.
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I went to the show last night in Taipei. Was thinking of going again tonight but I'd be doing it alone as opposed to last night when I had 5 guys with me. The show was pretty fun. It was your regular house show but better than the ones WWE does when they roll through because WWE just seems to send 1 big name and a bunch of midcarder geeks. New Japan sent pretty much the entire top tier of talent. None of the guys worked terribly hard being a house show and all and the matches went maybe 10~ minutes most of the time, with a couple going a bit longer. Main event with Okada/Tanahashi/Nakamura was great. Tanahashi stuck around and did air guitar for the crowd for 15 minutes. Crowd totally loved him and he won with the High Fly Flow on Takahashi. He was definitely the biggest star, Okada got a big reaction as did Nakamura. I thought Nakamura was the best on the show. The way he moves, his whole act is just great, very unique and entertaining. Every moment he does in some stylized manner and it really makes him stand out. Fun show, ran about 3 hours. They were pretty much out of shirts by intermission though so they should bring a lot more. I wanted to get a pair of red and black NJPW shirts but they were all out of XXL for both and only had XL left in Black so I got one of those. Was going to replace the Red shirt with a rainmaker shirt but they were almost out of those as well, no XLs left. I didn't care for any of Tanahashi's shirts so I got a NJPW 'Strong Style' shirt. Random Taiwanese model doing the ring introduction announced Bad Luck Fale as Bad Luck FAIL, pretty funny. None of the guys I went with were wrestling fans and $60USD was a lot to pay for the tickets but they all had a great time and really got into it, were having a great time, and agreed that we need to see [wrestling] the next time a show comes here. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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PaybackJack posted:I went to the show last night in Taipei. Was thinking of going again tonight but I'd be doing it alone as opposed to last night when I had 5 guys with me. Was it a good sized crowd?
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# ? Apr 13, 2014 07:43 |
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MassRafTer posted:Was it a good sized crowd? Not as many as the WWE shows get, but better than All Japan got last year when they came. I'm pretty bad at estimating crowd sizes but I'd say under a thousand people.
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# ? Apr 13, 2014 09:02 |
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MassRafTer posted:Was it a good sized crowd? PaybackJack posted:Not as many as the WWE shows get, but better than All Japan got last year when they came. I'm pretty bad at estimating crowd sizes but I'd say under a thousand people. FWIW, Strong Style Spirit reported 2000. quote:JPW "WRESTLING WORLD 2014 IN TAIWAN", 4/12/14 (Samurai! TV) (Look!) Glad to see the Hooligans are getting booked again, their match vs Liger/TMIV at the show that's presumably going on about now is for a shot at the Bucks.
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# ? Apr 13, 2014 09:15 |
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Results are in from the second day in Taiwan/quote:NJPW "WRESTLING WORLD 2014 IN TAIWAN", 4/13/14 (Samurai! TV) (Look!) Sucks that attendance went down, but that's probably to be expected when you run a venue in a foreign country that I don't think that's huge on wrestling on back to back days. I'm just thrilled that my favorite tag team is getting booked and will get a shot at presumably the Dontaku show.
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 00:01 |
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That first pitch Nakamura threw was maybe the best celebrity first pitch I've ever seen.
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 00:50 |
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Kojima vs. Wes Brisco coming to u on ppv may 3!!!!!!!!!
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 06:29 |
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masato tatanka posted:Kojima vs. Wes Brisco coming to u on ppv may 3!!!!!!!!! i didnt realize it was possible for a match to make me want a show less
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 06:31 |
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I think it's cool that NJPW has decided every major iPPV of the year will include a WMOTYC as well as at least one MOTYC.
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 06:51 |
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MassRafTer posted:I think it's cool that NJPW has decided every major iPPV of the year will include a WMOTYC as well as at least one MOTYC. this is an amazing point
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 06:52 |
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If anyone is wondering the full card for Road to WRESTLING DONTAKU on the 19th is as follows: BUSHI, Tiger Mask, Jushin Thuder Liger vs. Mascara Dorada, El Desperado, Ryusuke Taguchi Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs. Yohei Komatsu & Manabu Nakanishi Jado, Gedo, Takashi Iizuka, Toru Yano vs. Taichi, TAKA Michinoku, Shelton X Benjamin, Minoru Suzuki KUSHIDA, Tomoaki Honma, Tetsuya Naito vs. YOSHI-HASHI, Yujiro Takahashi, Tomohiro Ishii Captain New Japan & Yuji Nagata vs. Katsuyori Shibata & Hirooki Goto Alex Koslov, Rocky Romero, Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Nick Jackson, Matt Jackson, Bad Luck Fale Kazuchika Okada vs. Tama Tonga Togi Makabe & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Doc Gallows & Karl Anderson Wrestling Dontaku's card is as follows: IWGP Junior Championship Match: Kota Ibushi(c) vs. Ryusuke Taguchi Wrestling vs. Jiu-Jitsu Match: Kazushi Sakuraba & Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Rolles Gracie & Daniel Gracie IWGP Heavyweight Championship Match: Kazuchika Okada(c) vs. AJ Styles IWGP Junior Tag Team Championship Match: Alex Koslov & Rocky Romero vs. Nick Jackson & Matt Jackson(c) Takashi Iizuka & Toru Yano vs. Shelton X Benjamin & Minoru Suzuki NWA Heavyweight Championship Match: Satoshi Kojima(c) vs. Wes Brisco Special Elimination Tag Match: Jushin Thunder Liger, Tetsuya Naito, Togi Makabe, Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tama Tonga, Bad Luck Fale, Doc Gallows, Karl Anderson
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 07:11 |
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Wes Brisco has a lotta upside idk maybe he got better
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 07:16 |
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Sakuraba and Nakamura is a tag team from an Inoki wet dream.
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 07:21 |
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Wait a sec, that's apparently the match order? Weird that the title match isn't headlining. I think that kinda blows away Dave's theory of a possible title change, I can't see the end of a year+ long IWGP title reign happening in the middle of a show.John Cena posted:i didnt realize it was possible for a match to make me want a show less I've gotten used to the presence of a lovely NWA match so it doesn't really bother me assuming it means Bruce Tharpe graces us with his presence. Poor Kojima though, he must think US wrestling blows when Rob Conway is far and away the cream of the crop he gets to face. What annoys me more as a MiSu fan is that they haven't found much for him to do in a year other than eternally feuding with YTR. epitasis posted:Wes Brisco has a lotta upside idk maybe he got better I've never seen the guy wrestle in my life, but wasn't he terrible by TNA standards and not especially young? Thauros fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Apr 14, 2014 |
# ? Apr 14, 2014 09:50 |
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He had bad matches with Kurt Angle. All I can say in his favor is that he wasn't the worst wrestler in Aces and Eights. He still looked really bad in gimmick matches that would normally cover up how limited a worker is.
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 12:57 |
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Thauros posted:Wait a sec, that's apparently the match order? Weird that the title match isn't headlining. I think that kinda blows away Dave's theory of a possible title change, I can't see the end of a year+ long IWGP title reign happening in the middle of a show. Or they're worried about Styles holding the belt so they're doing it third from the top in hopes of Ibushi-Taguchi earning back some goodwill that might be lost.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Or they're worried about Styles holding the belt so they're doing it third from the top in hopes of Ibushi-Taguchi earning back some goodwill that might be lost. No no no, Kota vs Taguchi is the opener. That special elimination tag match is the main event. So Okada vs. AJ Styles is 3rd from the open.
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 14:55 |
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KungFu Grip posted:No no no, Kota vs Taguchi is the opener. That special elimination tag match is the main event. So Okada vs. AJ Styles is 3rd from the open. hahahaha that cannot be right That's some TNA poo poo
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 15:15 |
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Nice to see NJPW have faith in AJ probably taking the belt...by burying it at the bottom of the card. AJ Styles is terrible and I will be mad at pretendmanfights if he wins.
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 15:16 |
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sportsgenius86 posted:hahahaha that cannot be right http://www.njpw.co.jp/english/match/card.php?e=838 Yeah, that match order looked so batshit to me that I assumed KFG found it on a site that didn't list in order and checked on the official site. Regardless of who wins, Okada's first defense in almost three months should be a huge deal and shouldn't be in the spot that's usually been held by Bruce Tharpe and friends. To me this points to Okada retaining after a quick DQ finish or something, but this is really weird. It's better to shock the fans at the end than change your world title before intermission and kill the crowd if that's not what they want. I'm guessing Nakamura vs. Daniel Gracie's headlining the big Yokohama Arena show which also seems kinda questionable.
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 15:27 |
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Can't imagine that title match isn't a Bullet Club clusterfuck to set up AJ as a heel and a bigger match down the road.
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 15:37 |
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weekly font posted:Can't imagine that title match isn't a Bullet Club clusterfuck to set up AJ as a heel and a bigger match down the road. Yeah that was my first thought too, seeing them put the title match where it is on the card. That's not really what I want out of NJPW though. I guess I understand though, their roster is kind of limited when it comes to title challengers so you need to have a few clunkers here and there.
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 15:41 |
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triplexpac posted:Yeah that was my first thought too, seeing them put the title match where it is on the card. Yeah, that is their biggest problem. They have three main eventers and they're sensibly doing a slow build to Okada vs. Nakamura since that should be a huge match headlining a Dome. On the bright side as far as match quality's concerned, the Survivor Series style main event should get a lot of time and has some really good wrestlers on the face side.
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# ? Apr 14, 2014 15:47 |
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okada vs. styles is the headliner are you kiddin me. the card on the site is out of order because they announced a couple matches last week, take the bottom 3 and put them on top and that's probably what it's supposed to be. e: there's also supposed to be 2 or 3 more matches announced, if you noticed - the current card is missing big names like Goto, Shibata, Captain etc. handsome only face fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Apr 14, 2014 |
# ? Apr 14, 2014 16:13 |
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Yeah, that would make more sense. That would result in their standard ppv order of jr. tag open, MiSu v. YTR for match 2, and the NWA in the third slot.
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