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Oldstench posted:Live Windowlicker cover. Recorded in my hometown  Edit: Bonus content. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvtBE6t48M Sjoewe fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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I know this is a VST (boo! hiss!) and I'm a dirty software person (kill the heretic!), but has anyone here looked at and/or played with Scope? Synthtopia page on it Actual Glitchmachines product page The first YouTube video (from the Synthtopia page) is a pretty good general overview, without getting into patching details. He covers that in another video. For only $49, and with the modular sample library, and the flexibility, I'm terribly tempted...
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Apr 15, 2014 01:02
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I'm really into this, but I feel like I'm not getting the information I need. It keeps saying 26 modules, but I haven't seen a list of what they are. The sound demos are impressive, but I don't know if it's all the built in sound generation or if it uses the sample library (I assume it loads samples? I don't know!) That said I'm probably half an hour on KVR away from buying this thing. e: from KVR quote:here are the modules: coolskull fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 04:47
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All the Emu module chat made me want to mention the Procussion. All drums, all the time. There's 1000 sounds amongst all the drum kits, and it sounds great despite the complete lack of effects, z-plane witchcraft, or any kind of filter. My favorite features are the midi-note menu navigation, so you can program it from your drum controller with sticks, whip-fast MIDI timing, and six outputs to get your tweak on with. Aaaaag, gonna have to drag it out of the closet and sample the heck out of it... They're usually well under $100 too.
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Apr 15, 2014 05:04
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Tested the tr-8 at a shop and I now need one. Getting a volca tomorrow to sate me through the summer and keep me sane. Apparently going to this thing: https://www.midihack.com Any synthgoons going there? I mean I hope I'm getting a volca tomorrow, the guy at the shop has been telling me so for three days, and their warehouse is just across town. Good times. Better start building my ambika drat gently caress
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Apr 15, 2014 14:28
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utamaru posted:Tested the tr-8 at a shop and I now need one. Getting a volca tomorrow to sate me through the summer and keep me sane. Apparently going to this thing: https://www.midihack.com Any synthgoons going there? Volca beats, keys or bass? I'm pretty happy with the beats so far, the kick and hats are really nice. I sync it with an old DR-110 for the snare though.
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Apr 15, 2014 17:19
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Just got approved for the Zebra Dinosaur Crossgrade offer and sent the Virus safely on its way to California this morning. I've also begun work on a demo track for the Roland MKS-30 which I'll use to sell it in my eBay listing. Once I've sold enough synths I'm going to reward myself... with some synths.
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Apr 15, 2014 17:49
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Radiapathy posted:Once I've sold enough synths I'm going to reward myself... with some synths. This is a solid plan! Just got an Eventide Space in the mail today. Everyone should have this effects box. So far I've been able to use it as a reverb and echo but also as a distortion/overdrive. There's over 100 presets to gently caress with in this unit. Just tested it with my SH-101 and now I'm going to move on to the JX-3p. Reverb heavennnnnn
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Apr 15, 2014 17:58
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If anyone is after a Eurorack started kit for cheap or a Phatty Slim, let me know. 
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Apr 15, 2014 18:06
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Dotcom Jillionaire posted:This is a solid plan! I got a Monotron Delay  After seeing the Legowelt studio tour, I figured it would be a nice way to hopefully warm up the sound my DX27 a bit. Edit: Awfully jealous of that Eventide by the way. That or the Strymon is so high on my list. Sjoewe fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 20:51
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Oh god, what have I done? (it sounds nice, though I suspect it has a dead voice chip; there's a distinct thump/thud when I hit certain notes) EDIT: Okay, so maybe not a dead voice chip, something odd it seems. 
VoodooXT fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 22:50
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BKPR posted:I'm really into this, but I feel like I'm not getting the information I need. It keeps saying 26 modules, but I haven't seen a list of what they are. The sound demos are impressive, but I don't know if it's all the built in sound generation or if it uses the sample library (I assume it loads samples? I don't know!) I'm a bit disappointed to not see a step sequencer there. I'm on the fence about this one, but that would easily push me over.
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Apr 15, 2014 23:36
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VoodooXT posted:Oh god, what have I done? Post a sound demo maybe? What controller are you using to trigger the synth?
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Apr 16, 2014 01:57
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ming mecca better come out or else incase lurkers havent heard of it: http://www.specialstagesystems.com/world/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ay74S34XI
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Apr 16, 2014 02:00
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Dotcom Jillionaire posted:Post a sound demo maybe? What controller are you using to trigger the synth? I'm using my Waldorf Blofeld as a keyboard controller. I'm going to have to see about getting an audio demo once I get a recording setup going. To further elaborate, I've been trying to play the Microwave in mono by just connecting one of the LR outs to my practice amp. However, I did notice something weird: so, I was playing it in single patch mode and it's outputting through the standard LR stereo mix jacks, but it seems that one voice is outputting to the four individual outputs which shouldn't even be possible. I tried playing in multi mode and setting the pan control to middle and it seems to get all eight voices into mono rather than stereo. I tried setting the stereo width to mono in the global parameters but it seems to have no effect. I'm wondering if there's a setting that you can only access through a specialized controller or if I need to replace the internal battery or just do a factory reset. I should also try to use my other synth keyboard as a MIDI controller and see if I get the same problem.
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Apr 16, 2014 02:24
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I need to confess a thoughtcrime for public absolution or something. 75%-90% of the time I spend making music is sperging the gently caress out over a kick drum until I'm happy with it, which realistically is getting stupid because I'm terrible at making them 90% of the time and I'm just recycling the same samples over and over. I'm trying to decide if I want to just get some compressed as gently caress samples and go nuts so I can actually make something for once but that feels like cheating if I just buy a Vengeance pack, but poo poo, at least those dudes actually make things with Vengeance. I literally took a half hour break in the middle of writing this post to gently caress with drums and that's just making me angry at the world. Like, does it just make sense to go #fuckit #yolo and get the same overprocessed drums (which I like) as everyone else and then learn drum layering and compression from scratch at a slower pace while actually making stuff, or does anyone have any good suggestions for getting that kind of sound that I might have missed? Or what the gently caress am I doing I don't know. 
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Apr 16, 2014 04:18
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:I need to confess a thoughtcrime for public absolution or something. I'm in a similar place. I feel probably the best way to go about it is to use the processed-as-gently caress Vengeance samples, and then if I feel the need to polish the track into something I want to show people I sperg out over the percussion after!
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Apr 16, 2014 04:33
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I went to Guitar Center today and just hosed around with a TR-8 for like an hour. It felt reaaalll good. gently caress, man. I don't have the money for one of those.
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Apr 16, 2014 04:38
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some good advice I heard once was to just lay a track down as quickly as possible with whatever sounds you have handy and later on tweak the sounds to your hearts content. this is not to say I tend to follow said advice, but its something to think about. making my poo poo sound good as I'm composing keeps me happy and motivated to continue working but I will also tend to get hung up on the minutia and eventually throw up my arms and do something else.
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Apr 16, 2014 06:00
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Flanky posted:I'm in a similar place. I feel probably the best way to go about it is to use the processed-as-gently caress Vengeance samples, and then if I feel the need to polish the track into something I want to show people I sperg out over the percussion after! Pretty much this, only since I'm also a nerd over heavily processed and layered synth sounds it's not just the drums that get this treatment but instead I'll use a preset or modify one slightly* so long as it's around 90% of what the final sound I'm looking for will be while I'm in the writing process. Now, on that front, I'm coming up on one year since I started getting back into making music and it's taken me that long (ok, really 6 months since I was researching gear more than I was actually playing for the first 6 months) to finally start writing things that I'm actually happy with instead of poo poo melodies and dead-end progressions. The best part is I'm actually using and happy with everything I've purchased on a regular basis both hardware and software wise so I'm spending way more time writing and just letting myself save up for the final few things I've concluded would be nice to have but don't need them immediately. *I know, I'm a monster for using presets but when I'm writing I give way more of a poo poo about actually writing and I know I can obsess over dialing in the tone and sounds later.
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Apr 16, 2014 06:09
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:75%-90% of the time I spend making music is sperging the gently caress out over a kick drum until I'm happy with it, which realistically is getting stupid because I'm terrible at making them 90% of the time and I'm just recycling the same samples over and over... Sometimes I give myself a hard time about not being as productive as I'd like, or even as I used to be- but the fact is, every minute I sit down with my DAW and my synths I'm having a blast, even if I don't have much to show for it. I watch almost zero TV or movies, play almost zero games, and I haven't listened to music recreationally for like three years. And I don't miss any of it. Having too much fun. What I'm getting at, is are you judging yourself unfairly? Or do you have some clear personal goals you're struggling to achieve? Dotcom Jillionaire posted:some good advice I heard once was to just lay a track down as quickly as possible with whatever sounds you have handy and later on tweak the sounds to your hearts content.
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Apr 16, 2014 06:59
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Radiapathy posted:Are you having fun? If so, maybe that's just your thing. Ain't nothing wrong with it. Not really, I want to do it myself and I feel like it's cheating to grab a pre-made sample with the right kind of sound. But still, I'm getting hung up and frustrated.
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Apr 16, 2014 07:12
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There's nothing wrong with being utilitarian as gently caress when it comes to making music. I mean creating original material from scratch is fun, but if the result you're aiming for can also be achieved in 10 seconds by just sampling a kick, why beat yourself up about it. That's also one of the main reasons I like drum machines, the limitations they impose force you to be creative in programming and the rest of the sound design. Don't overthink it, keep a broad focus. Fun first, musical ethics later.
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Apr 16, 2014 09:48
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:Not really, I want to do it myself and I feel like it's cheating There's no such thing as "cheating" in music. There's only lying Also, don't make your kick design process part of your composition process. Just spend a day cranking out just kicks. Then use those results.
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Apr 16, 2014 10:14
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:Not really, I want to do it myself and I feel like it's cheating to grab a pre-made sample with the right kind of sound. But still, I'm getting hung up and frustrated. I've come to think that unsctructured time is one of the worst enemies I have for making stuff. I need to compartmentalise things into "writing time, no sound tweaking" and "ok to sound tweak time".
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Apr 16, 2014 10:46
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Some of the best times I've had were spent on designing kick drums  
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massive spider posted:I've come to think that unsctructured time is one of the worst enemies I have for making stuff. I need to compartmentalise things into "writing time, no sound tweaking" and "ok to sound tweak time". And then you have people like me who has no idea how to write, and thus rely on the sounds to give inspiration.... but I can't make sounds without context either. It's a perpetual loop of terribleness. I've yet to find a place/tutorial/writeup that can teach me anything about writing songs
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Apr 16, 2014 11:59
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Your Computer posted:
Allow me to pimp out my opus of SA threads http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3472948
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:Not really, I want to do it myself and I feel like it's cheating to grab a pre-made sample with the right kind of sound. But still, I'm getting hung up and frustrated. Soundware exists because people use it. I'm sure even people you respect and/or idolize. I'm not going to make a multisample of loving anything better than Kurzweil, why would I feel bad using the fruits of their labor? To flip it the other direction, even if literally all you did was put together canned loops in live it would still be you doing it. If it sounds good, it's good. Also holy lol getting up your own rear end about making acid. 
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Apr 16, 2014 12:41
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As far as samplers go, does the ESX still hold up compared to other samplers? I have an EMX and I like the interface (but the sounds are kind of awful), and I've been looking for a sampler that isn't expensive. I don't really do house or anything, but I want to experiment with sampling in an ambient / glitch sort of way.
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Wafflehound, I have solved your kickdrum problem. Crank the loving gain on the mixer input from your 606's kick drum until it clips. Now do the same on the gain from your 303. Seriously though, get any ideas of 'cheating' out of your head. This is not a competition, it's artwork. You don't get a scorecard, there is no right and wrong.
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Apr 16, 2014 13:48
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:I need to confess a thoughtcrime for public absolution or something. I would just get the Vengeance kick pack or another similar pack with lots of different kicks. I think people spend a little too much time on kick drums, when the more important thing is making the rest of the song fit with the kick drum, especially the sub-bass. In a club no one cares if you sampled your kick drum or created it from a sine wave you generated on your homemade synthesizer. Speaking of techno and other four on the floor genres here. I wouldn't apply this reasoning to other elements of the song, but I think in terms of productivity it definitely helps and lets you focus on the more important/interesting parts of the song.
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Thanks for the input, everyone. I'm going to just try grabbing a demo of a pack or something similar and gently caress around for a bit and see if I'm happy with the results or If it just leaves me feeling super dirty. Also, honest question, but I know we've talked here about what the "next 909" or similar decade defining synth is, is there any reason not to say Vengeance samples? They're a hallmark of sound design of dance music from the last few years almost to the point of mimicking the 909 in terms of presence. toadee posted:Crank the loving gain on the mixer input from your 606's kick drum until it clips. I traded the 6 for a Mopho keyboard in, like, June. And then I traded that for a bunch of euro. And then I sold that euro for three times what I paid for the 606. I should become a pawn shop guy or something.
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Your Computer posted:
Here you go: http://freshonthenet.co.uk/the-manual-by-the-klf/
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:Also, honest question, but I know we've talked here about what the "next 909" or similar decade defining synth is, is there any reason not to say Vengeance samples? They're a hallmark of sound design of dance music from the last few years almost to the point of mimicking the 909 in terms of presence. I kind of get the point, and putting it like this even makes me think you might be right, but I'm not sure if that would be something we should we happy about. 
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:Also, honest question, but I know we've talked here about what the "next 909" or similar decade defining synth is, is there any reason not to say Vengeance samples? For something to become considered a defining instrument, it has to be used in a way that's initially pioneering. I don't think that's ever going to happen with a sample pack, because that's not what they're for- they're for quickly getting to a sound you already know you want. They will capture the defining instruments of the future (I predict: 303/808/909), but they won't be making history- they'll be reflecting it. Radiapathy fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Apr 16, 2014 |
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Sjoewe posted:I kind of get the point, and putting it like this even makes me think you might be right, but I'm not sure if that would be something we should we happy about it. I mean, I get what you're getting at a bit, but why not? There are entire genres that are basically defined by the 909 kick or have the open hat (which was a sample) all over it. In a lot of ways the 909 was just as much of an easy button as the Vengeance stuff, it was just hardware so we feel okay fetishizing it more. Radiapathy posted:For something to become considered a defining instrument, it has to be used in a way that's initially pioneering. I don't think that's ever going to happen with a sample pack, because that's not what they're for- they're for quickly getting to a sound you already know you want. They will capture the defining instruments of the future (I predict: 303/808/909), but they won't be making history- they'll be reflecting it. I get what you're saying but I'm not sure I agree with the sentiment. I think the "initially pioneering" thing is secondary to it being absolutely everywhere when it comes to looking at a certain instruments influence. Though you could also be right, I doubt there's a rulebook out there for what counts in this situation.
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:I get what you're saying but I'm not sure I agree with the sentiment. I think the "initially pioneering" thing is secondary to it being absolutely everywhere when it comes to looking at a certain instruments influence.
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:I mean, I get what you're getting at a bit, but why not? There are entire genres that are basically defined by the 909 kick or have the open hat (which was a sample) all over it. In a lot of ways the 909 was just as much of an easy button as the Vengeance stuff, it was just hardware so we feel okay fetishizing it more. Not completely. The 909 was a bottom-up kind of thing, like the amen-break or the hoover-chord. Where people took ownership of something originally intend to be something completely else, and by forcing it completely out of context they created something new. Vengeance is the absolute opposite of that.
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Radiapathy posted:when you want to sound like Lil B. I have nothing of value to add to the conversation at this point, but I just have to say that I did a mad  at that. It's literally IMDABES.Also, I'm pretty sure the vengeance packs are all about sound exactly like what's really popular exactly when the pack is released (and not necessarily a week after). A lot of the samples are definitely useful though. e: swagswagswag Your Computer fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Apr 16, 2014 |
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