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TwoPair posted:The only possible good outcome of "Grayson" is if THE INDESTRUCTIBLE DICK GRAYSON APPEARS LIKE A HUMAN CYCLONE chomping a cigar with those pistols. Apparently one of the writers did mention that they're aware of Grayson's sex appeal, and plan to use it.
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HitTheTargets posted:Apparently one of the writers did mention that they're aware of Grayson's sex appeal, and plan to use it. So this means they probably just read Gambit and are gonna try to rip it off.
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Apr 16, 2014 03:45
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All speculations but I can buy his theory about DC changing plans midway http://www.gothamspoilers.com/2014/04/so-about-nightwing-30.html
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:I know is Bleeding Cool and all but first look Wally West I know i'm kind of late to this but why are they changing the race/sexuality/whatever of all the non main characters. They had to go so far as to put Cyborg in the JL just so it wasn't 6 white folks and an alien (whose alter ego is white), if the reboot let them pull the ol race swap then why not just make Aquaman or Barry Allen black? Or Wonder Woman actually look Mediterranean? It's kind of a dumb thing to get mad about but it seems especially stupid of them to turn the wisecracking guy from a broken home whose superpower is running fast into the black stereotype grand slam.
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Apr 16, 2014 04:24
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Because for all their posturing of the "all new 52!" they still are banking heavily on nostalgia and name recognition which second tier characters don't have.
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Apr 16, 2014 04:31
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CharlestheHammer posted:Because for all their posturing of the "all new 52!" they still are banking heavily on nostalgia and name recognition which second tier characters don't have. Wally has/had more recognition then Barry for quite awhile. It's kind of why him disappearing was such an annoyance. I guess maybe they're were hoping for the headline "Black guy becomes superhero who runs fast" to catch some eyes.
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Apr 16, 2014 04:40
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Wally was the Flash I grew up with in the DCAU, so to have him get the shaft so bad in New 52 is just so terrible 
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Solaris Knight posted:Wally was the Flash I grew up with in the DCAU, so to have him get the shaft so bad in New 52 is just so terrible Sorry but DC only cares about who the characters were when Geoff Johns was growing up.
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Codependent Poster posted:Sorry but DC only cares about who the characters were when Geoff Johns was growing up. Now now. Characters Geoff Johns didn't personally like are just as likely to get screwed.
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Apr 16, 2014 05:37
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Codependent Poster posted:Sorry but DC only cares about who the characters were when Geoff Johns was growing up. Fortunately our generation's Geoff Johns will right things by return Wally back to prominence and since the gen after us doesn't actually read comics he won't ever get replaced for nostalgia reasons.
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Apr 16, 2014 05:43
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Codependent Poster posted:Sorry but DC only cares about who the characters were when Geoff Johns was growing up.
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Apr 16, 2014 16:16
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Chaltab posted:Wally West WAS the Flash when Geoff Johns was growing up. The Barry Allen push is a DiDio thing. Johns even has a fantastic run on the Flash using Wally!
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Chaltab posted:Wally West WAS the Flash when Geoff Johns was growing up. The Barry Allen push is a DiDio thing. Crisis happened in 1985. Johns was born in like 1972. So depending on when he started reading, Barry was probably his Flash. And the way he writes him and Hal as besties makes me think he did indeed grow up with Barry.
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I've always assumed Johns was adoringly watching Superfriends long before he ever picked up a comic book.
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DynamicSloth posted:I've always assumed Johns was adoringly watching Superfriends long before he ever picked up a comic book. I know he did, as he did commentary with Waid for the dvd set. Johns is also a fan of the pre crisis Legion, and other pre crisis poo poo. He grew up with Barry.
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Apr 16, 2014 18:04
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And that probably means no female Dr. Fate, either. Booooooo
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coconono posted:And that probably means no female Dr. Fate, either. Booooooo There was a Female Dr. Fate? 
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Now I'm a bit curious about something. I've brought up that the Justice League cartoon did a lot to set who is known to people as "The Justice League" for likely anyone under thirty. But I never really thought to ask why John Stewart was picked instead of any of the other three lanterns at the time. Kyle shows up in a Superman episode previous to the Justice League series I believe so that would have been a natural move to make. Was John's inclusion strictly above adding diversity to the cast? Whatever the reason was it had an impact. I had friends who asked me why the Green Lantern movie had a white guy playing the lead when that movie came out.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:There was a Female Dr. Fate? There were two actually. Inza Nelson got her own solo series that was awesome and you should read it.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:There was a Female Dr. Fate? She and her step son merged so Dr. Fate switched genders randomly, and she was attracted to the step son and it was all icky wierdness.
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Trast posted:Now I'm a bit curious about something. I've brought up that the Justice League cartoon did a lot to set who is known to people as "The Justice League" for likely anyone under thirty. But I never really thought to ask why John Stewart was picked instead of any of the other three lanterns at the time. Kyle shows up in a Superman episode previous to the Justice League series I believe so that would have been a natural move to make. Was John's inclusion strictly above adding diversity to the cast? A lot of talented people such as the late Dwayne McDuffie worked on the show and understood the importance of diversify on the team, it's the reason a lot of other characters race were changed beyond "everybody is white".
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Waterhaul posted:A lot of talented people such as the late Dwayne McDuffie worked on the show and understood the importance of diversify on the team, it's the reason a lot of other characters race were changed beyond "everybody is white". That is what I figured. The Animated DC always seemed to make good calls with things like that.
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Senor Candle posted:Johns even has a fantastic run on the Flash using Wally! To be fair, he basically just retreaded Waid's Return of Barry Allen by creating a villain whose sole purpose was to make sure Wally knew he was never as good as the one true bestest Flash ever Barry Allen.
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Waterhaul posted:A lot of talented people such as the late Dwayne McDuffie worked on the show and understood the importance of diversify on the team, it's the reason a lot of other characters race were changed beyond "everybody is white".
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Yet another Green Lantern crossover is happening: Uprising Stop me if you've heard this one before: Van Jensen posted:I think, at the end of "Uprising," people are going to see that it seems like the Corps has gone through their darkest hour, and that things have changed in monumental ways, and it will seem like it couldn't possibly go any worse for John Stewart or the rest of the Lanterns, but even after that, they're going to have to dig down deeper. So glad I dropped all the Lantern titles without "Red" in it.
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Space_Butler posted:Yet another Green Lantern crossover is happening: Uprising Do they just have one storyline for Green Lantern?
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Chaltab posted:I don't recall anyone's race actually being changed for JLU, actually. They were just good about picking a roster with characters of color the DCU already had but had never put in other media. I could've sworn both Hawkgirl and Luthor had their races changed in the show and some other supporting characters.
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Waterhaul posted:I could've sworn both Hawkgirl and Luthor had their races changed in the show and some other supporting characters. No Luthor was Luthor and Hawkgirl was an alien.
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Luthor's look was based off of Telly Sevalas and therefore pretty strongly Grecian, which combined with his healthy tan caused some people to think he was supposed to be black back when Superman TAS first started. Not that there's anything wrong with that! </seinfeld>
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McSpanky posted:Luthor's look was based off of Telly Sevalas and therefore pretty strongly Grecian, which combined with his healthy tan caused some people to think he was supposed to be black back when Superman TAS first started. Yeah this was what I was referring to. He wasn't black but they did shift things around so that everybody wasn't of the same ethnicity.
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Space_Butler posted:Yet another Green Lantern crossover is happening: Uprising  Speaking of Lantern books, Sinestro was pretty decent.
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MonsterEnvy posted:No Luthor was Luthor and Hawkgirl was an alien. She was portrayed vaguely Hispanic.
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Die Laughing posted:She was portrayed vaguely Hispanic. Very, very vaguely.
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Die Laughing posted:She was portrayed vaguely Hispanic. Uh, when was this? 
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Every Thanagarian was voiced by a Hispanic actor. That's about it though.
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PantsOptional posted:Every Thanagarian was voiced by a Hispanic actor. That's about it though. When they invaded, every Thanagarian was 100% a hot-blooded Latin. quote:Victor Rivers (also once somebody in a crowd called her "Chica Halcón".)
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Space_Butler posted:Yet another Green Lantern crossover is happening: Uprising Ha ha holy poo poo you're kidding me. Green Lantern has almost become the new "A TITAN DIES" in terms of how predictable it is because things always get worse for the Corps. Yet nobody ever dies or gets injured but redshirt lanterns. Kilowog and Mogo and Arisia (etc.) all make it through fine but the rest just keel over. TwoPair fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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TwoPair posted:Ha ha holy poo poo you're kidding me. Green Lantern has almost become the new "A TITAN DIES" in terms of how predictable it is because things always get worse. Yet nobody ever dies or gets injured but redshirt lanterns. Kilowog and Mogo and Arisia (etc.) all make it through fine but the rest just keel over. At this point the Guardians are less competent than Arkham's security team.
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I'm reading the first trade of Earth-2 and its pretty good. Feels a lot more fleshed out than a lot of the new52 stuff.
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When I first saw Hades appearance in Wonder Woman, I was wondering if he was ever getting his head candles blown out. Very pleased to see that happen in this week's issue of WW.
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