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JoelJoel posted:Any GM that disregards any stat is an idiot. None are perfect and some are obviously inferior (+/-) but a diligent hockey mind would consider ever metric at their disposal. "Potentially"?
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grack posted:"Potentially"? God your AV is creepy. Yeah, you're right. Guess I'm still in denial. Clarkson could... ugh. But, I mean Phaneuf could return to... ugh. At least we got rid of that toxic Grabo contract... 
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Apr 16, 2014 21:54
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Aphrodite posted:They're just idiots. Shouldn't team defense apply though? I've probably read pages of goons making GBS threads on Chad Johnson, yet he put up a .925, only half a percent under Rask. Varly is .14 over Giguere for reference.
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Apr 16, 2014 22:07
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I would totally watch the world championships. Do they stream the games?
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Apr 16, 2014 22:08
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Brain Curry posted:I would totally watch the world juniors but I don't get the NHL network. Do they stream the games? Do you mean the IIHF Ice Hockey World Championship? Juniors were a while ago.
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Apr 16, 2014 22:11
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hifi posted:Shouldn't team defense apply though? I've probably read pages of goons making GBS threads on Chad Johnson, yet he put up a .925, only half a percent under Rask. Varly is .14 over Giguere for reference. All the evidence says team defense is not a significant factor in a goalie's performance.
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JoelJoel posted:Do you mean the IIHF Ice Hockey World Championship? Juniors were a while ago. Oops yes i do!
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Apr 16, 2014 22:20
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What can you guys tell me about Kasperi Kapanen? I read up on him and some other guys after the draft order was determined, and I was intrigued by him playing with adults despite being 17 and also by his pedigree, as I thought Sami was a pretty good player. I'm a Calgary fan if that makes a difference.
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JoelJoel posted:Do you mean the IIHF Ice Hockey World Championship? Juniors were a while ago. Though I think the u18s are also going on right now.
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So the Jets lock up Maurice, but also insist that Pavelec is the number 1 goalie for next year. I guess he's not the worst. His numbers put him as around the 70th best goalie in the NHL. It means, on average, every team has at least 2 goalies better than him. Anyone want to trade a bag of pucks for Pavelec? Maybe a minor league pitching machine?
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Apr 16, 2014 22:27
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Hockey streams or firstrow if you don't want to pay but the quality is usually pretty low.
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Aphrodite posted:All the evidence says team defense is not a significant factor in a goalie's performance. "Bruins defence" was used to dismiss Anton Khudobin's season last year and well. hifi posted:When did Rask fall off in the Vezina competition? This has most picking Varlamov at 1 and Bishop at 2. I think that if you bracket out that Chara/Bergeron half sentence, that's actually a pretty good argument.
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Apr 16, 2014 22:52
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Yeah but mostly because he just says it in a vacuum without mentioning that Rask's is .941, or even that Price's .934 (between the 2 of them in shots.)
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah but mostly because he just says it in a vacuum without mentioning that Rask's is .941, or even that Price's .934 (between the 2 of them in shots.) Eh, I think it's reasonably clear that Wyshynski is mentioning the .933 in the context of "it's still very good, so it's not like he's being rewarded just for his workload."
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Apr 16, 2014 23:44
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DOOMocrat posted:I didn't really have a dog in the Buffalo-management-by-Cuisinart fight before this but if you diss Teppo, you gots to go. Teppo comes into the bike shop where I work pretty often, he's a super chill guy. I hate to see him go 
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Thufir posted:Craig Smith is pretty rad and was really good in Worlds last year so and he's being coached by housley and laviolette this year. preds video coach also got sent over. i'll be really surprised if laviolette isn't hired. smith is a really good player and has the ability to hit 30/30 next year pretty easily.
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Apr 16, 2014 23:58
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Smith was the main highlight of the season for me. Exciting to watch almost every time he had the puck, and he actually shoots.
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fits posted:The Anton Belov Experience is over, he signed a 4 year deal with SKA St Petersburg Belov loving sucked.
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Belov you picked a great time to score your 1 NHL goal and were a solid bottom pairing guy
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MassaShowtime posted:Belov loving sucked. He was better than Fraser and Larsen 
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fits posted:He was better than Fraser and Larsen 
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fits posted:He was better than Fraser and Larsen Yeah he was a top paring AHLer!
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Have a fun look at NHL Award voting ballots, which some voters (mostly media types) are choosing to make public: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?p=83499667#post83499667 Within, it is revealed that Damien Cox thinks it is odd that he didn't rank Shea Weber in his top 5 for the Norris, but he did it anyways. He also nominated Bergeron and Steen for the Hart because they play the Right Way, but not Ovechkin for anything because his plus/minus is bad. It is also noted that nobody thinks that defensemen are very valuable anymore, considering that there are a whopping two whole 5th place votes for defensemen for the Hart.
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eXXon posted:Have a fun look at NHL Award voting ballots, which some voters (mostly media types) are choosing to make public: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?p=83499667#post83499667 well the last defenseman to win the hart was pronger in 2000 and before that bobby orr so that isn't a new development
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Who votes on the Vezina? It's not on any of their lists.
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Aphrodite posted:Who votes on the Vezina? It's not on any of their lists.
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@Real_ESPNLeBrun posted:
This makes me happy.
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Zamboni Jesus posted:well the last defenseman to win the hart was pronger in 2000 and before that bobby orr so that isn't a new development
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Canada's WC roster so far: Center: Monahan, Turris, Hodgson, Scheifele, Kadri, Bozak Wing: Brouwer, Burrows, Perron, Ward, Huberdeau D: Ellis, Methot, Rielly, Gudbranson, Bieksa, Garrison G: Reimer One interesting dynamic is that Dave Tippet is gonna be coaching the team, and based on that roster Kyle Turris should probably slot in as the #1 centre. On the other hand, Tippet coaching could also explain this tweet: quote:Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger 14h bub spank fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Today in Oates' Quotes:quote:[Holtby] made two saves that I didn’t like — he made the save, but I think it was the wrong way Holtby was interviewed and it turns out that it wasn't Kolzig that made him change his style during the season, it was actually a direct order from Oates who wanted all his goalies to play like Lundqvist, Kolzig just had to implement it. This is of course what lead to Holtby struggling until he and Kolzig went back to Holtby's regular style.
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I want Oates to stay in Washington just so I can keep hearing about his incredibly retarded opinions.
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Lundqvist changed his style to how he now plays early in his career, he also used to play very aggressively, but the person who worked with him to change his style is one of the best goalie coaches in the NHL who knew what he was doing.
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Levitate posted:Lundqvist changed his style to how he now plays early in his career, he also used to play very aggressively, but the person who worked with him to change his style is one of the best goalie coaches in the NHL who knew what he was doing. But did his coach force him do it mid-season, or like a reasonable man did he work on it throughout the offseason?
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Gunjin posted:But did his coach force him do it mid-season, or like a reasonable man did he work on it throughout the offseason? Actually don't really remember! Probably started working on it in the offseason and training camp and continued on through the year.
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Gunjin posted:Today in Oates' Quotes: Do you have a source for this quote? (I believe you, I just didn't see it anywhere) I can't think of two more stylistically different goalies than Lundqvist and Holtby (maybe Lundqvist and Quick). I just want Oates to go away.
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Mind_Taker posted:Do you have a source for this quote? (I believe you, I just didn't see it anywhere) It was on CSNW today (be warned it's a Chuck Gormley article, and he's a really loving bad at his job, just use it for the quotes): http://www.csnwashington.com/hockey-washington-capitals/talk/braden-holtby-says-changes-resulted-second-guessing
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Levitate posted:Lundqvist changed his style to how he now plays early in his career, he also used to play very aggressively, but the person who worked with him to change his style is one of the best goalie coaches in the NHL who knew what he was doing. Was he that aggressive? The main thing I remember is that his glove hand sucked compared to eveyrthing else. Now that thing is always way up.
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THE MACHO MAN posted:Was he that aggressive? He was when he played in the SEL. When he came to the NHL is when his style changed.
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Gunjin posted:It was on CSNW today (be warned it's a Chuck Gormley article, and he's a really loving bad at his job, just use it for the quotes):  quote:After seeing Rangers goalie Henrik Lundqvist knock the Caps out of the playoffs last spring, Oates decided it was time for the Caps’ goaltenders to try a similar approach as the Swedish netminder, who plays deeper in his crease and relies on his incredible reflexes to take away back-door passes. I don't see a direct quote from Oates, but this is so monumentally stupid that it must have been from Oates. quote:With the help of Kolzig, Holtby went back to the basics, playing more aggressively and challenging shooters instead of staying deeper in his crease. I guess Kolzig wasn't to blame after all. quote:As for Oates, he’s not entirely convinced Holtby has returned to the way he played last season, saying he believes some of the changes that were made to his game are still evident. Christ how does Oates still have a job?
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I mean I think Oates has a point, players evolve and their style might change over time which makes them more effective. The fact that he's trying to force a change is what's hosed up and stupid.
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The problem is Holtby was already effective, his career numbers are pretty good, and until Oates tried to force the change this season they were even better: http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2014/04/08/three-thousand-shots-later-braden-holtby-is-still-pretty-awesome/
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