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Mirthless posted:I don't know if you can still be righteously indignant when you are inventing a reason to get offended. "He is surrounded by anti-trans people, so his work is inherently anti-trans" is a pretty loving stupid thing to say and there are better reasons to hate McCoy. How about "Any of his hundreds of other strips that are actually intended to be offensive". Admit it. You're Glenn McCoy.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Names. It seems like people near universally agree that changing one's name is perfectly reasonable, so it would not even register to them that it's rife for comic potential.
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chairface posted:Pine cones would be unpleasant to have shoved up one's rear end. Reagan is in Hell having pinecones shoved up his rear end forever. That's all there is to it. So a person with severe mental issues is being punished for actions he didn't fully understand or appreciate? I had no idea that God was Texan.
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Lightanchor posted:It seems like people near universally agree that changing one's name is perfectly reasonable, so it would not even register to them that it's rife for comic potential. Jokes that aren't political cartoons tend to be jokes, not editorial statements. You're not obligated to make a socially relevant commentary in a joke you put on an American Greetings card.
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It... seems pretty likely that's about transgendered people. Just catching up on the thread from a few hours ago, and no other possibility even occurred to me until people in the thread started flipping their poo poo about that interpretation for some reason. I have no idea how you get a joke out of that if it isn't about transgendered people. Unfortunately, reverse google imaging the stupid thing gets no useful hits, so the only way of checking on the creator's original intent would involve poop-touching.
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 This is a black person this is a monkey And this is you if you think they're the same thing !
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A rackt pod? Irony Be My Shield posted:Did anything prompt this, or is this reference almost two decades old? People are dead
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chairface posted:Pine cones would be unpleasant to have shoved up one's rear end. Speak for yourself boy-o!!
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Exclamation Marx posted:
I do have to give credit to Latuff for being one of the few critics of Obama who doesn't draw him in a racist as gently caress manner. I never thought about it until seeing this comic, but it's honestly kind of a refreshing realization that there's at least one political cartoonist who doesn't have racial animus tied into his opposition of the President.
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idonotlikepeas posted:It... seems pretty likely that's about transgendered people. Just catching up on the thread from a few hours ago, and no other possibility even occurred to me until people in the thread started flipping their poo poo about that interpretation for some reason. I have no idea how you get a joke out of that if it isn't about transgendered people. This argument seems centered on intent, which is odd to me. It's entirely possible to say something transphobic/homophobic/racist without intending it to be. It happens. Even if I accept that it wasn't his intention, that doesn't make it suddenly not transphobic. It just means Glenn McCoy is dumb (news at 11).
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cafel posted:I do have to give credit to Latuff for being one of the few critics of Obama who doesn't draw him in a racist as gently caress manner. I never thought about it until seeing this comic, but it's honestly kind of a refreshing realization that there's at least one political cartoonist who doesn't have racial animus tied into his opposition of the President. That's not Obama you racist.
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I'm not claiming the comic is out and out transphobic. I'm saying the only way it makes sense to me is if there's currently something in society where people 'legally change their x' that's potentially silly because (sometimes) you can't really change your x. Maybe if lots of people were renaming themselves Megazone, that's what McCoy could be riffing on. But for the life of me it seems only changing gender fits the bill. If I made a comic where a character says, "I've got it! I'm going to Mogadishu!" you would think it only makes sense against the background of some people up and going to other countries for some reason. cafel posted:I do have to give credit to Latuff for being one of the few critics of Obama who doesn't draw him in a racist as gently caress manner. I never thought about it until seeing this comic, but it's honestly kind of a refreshing realization that there's at least one political cartoonist who doesn't have racial animus tied into his opposition of the President.
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SedanChair posted:That's not Obama you racist. Ummm... Yeah, I know. I meant Latuff's depictions of Obama in general. Unless that's  , sometimes it's hard to tell with you.
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Exclamation Marx posted:
Democrats are the Real Racists. A Bad Cartoon.
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Lightanchor posted:It seems like people near universally agree that changing one's name is perfectly reasonable, so it would not even register to them that it's rife for comic potential. Yes, so what we have is a person doing a logical everyday thing except altered so as to be ridiculous. This dissonance is seen as comical, inducing feelings of elation often called humor.
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^^ Jesus Christ please just stop ^^Lightanchor posted:I'm not claiming the comic is out and out transphobic. I'm saying the only way it makes sense to me is if there's currently something in society where people 'legally change their x' that's potentially silly because (sometimes) you can't really change your x. Maybe if lots of people were renaming themselves Megazone, that's what McCoy could be riffing on. But for the life of me it seems only changing gender fits the bill. Holy poo poo nobody cares.
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carry on then posted:Hey, with widespread computers it's easy to convert Obamas to Hitlers anyway. Lycus posted:Isn't it 1:1? Using a Raller, that is. Not My Leg posted:You forget that Obama also has drones, so he is extra Hitler. I think the conversion is Hitler * 3/5 + 44 = Obama. This sequence is amazing and I'm happy I had something to do with starting it.
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:^^ Jesus Christ please just stop ^^ Clearly a lot of people do care or this conversation would be over by now!
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Did anything prompt this, or is this reference almost two decades old? Georgia calls itself the Peach State, and peaches by themselves aren't particularly good shots.
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Exclamation Marx posted:
Pretty certain it's about Daniel Alves.
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Lightanchor posted:I'm not claiming the comic is out and out transphobic. I'm saying the only way it makes sense to me is if there's currently something in society where people 'legally change their x' that's potentially silly because (sometimes) you can't really change your x. Maybe if lots of people were renaming themselves Megazone, that's what McCoy could be riffing on. But for the life of me it seems only changing gender fits the bill. It seems more like the joke is, basically, "har har old people", but it's a joke that relies on the idea that people legally changing things that are supposed to be immutable (like gender) is ridiculous. Sort of like you might have seen a "haw haw women are bad at driving amirite" joke on a greeting card forty years ago (or yesterday, but please don't post one of those for me). It's not intended to score political points against women (or transgendered people in the modern example), it just assumes you agree that they're ridiculous in order to make the joke. Also, the dude who renamed himself Megazone totally married someone I knew in high school.
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Apr 30, 2014 03:27
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McCoy's Razor: Among competing hypotheses, the least charitable should be selected. It's never served me wrong.
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idonotlikepeas posted:Also, the dude who renamed himself Megazone totally married someone I knew in high school. Did she take his name?
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ThirdPartyView posted:Pretty certain it's about Daniel Alves. Makes sense, I don't think Latuff has ever used the Thomas Nast American party mascots, when he refers to Americans its always either Uncle Sam or Obama taking a poo poo on the middle east or getting their asses kicked by the ghost of Hugo Chavez or something. This just has the controversial message of "racists are jackasses".
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Small Frozen Thing posted:McCoy's Razor: Among competing hypotheses, the least charitable should be selected. In the legal profession, it's called a rebuttable presumption.
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Lightanchor posted:Did she take his name? No, she didn't. Which, really, strikes me as a missed opportunity.
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Acknowledging the existence of more than one political party in any country that isn't Brazil (or Venezuela, recently) is a little bit more nuance than Latuff can usually handle, yeah.
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Apr 30, 2014 03:33
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Mirthless posted:Jokes that aren't political cartoons tend to be jokes, not editorial statements. You're not obligated to make a socially relevant commentary in a joke you put on an American Greetings card. We believe you, Glenn. Just like when your brother totally didn't draw Sandra Fluke. 
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Please don't resort to that, claiming someone is one of the McCoys is one step removed from hate speech.
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Small Frozen Thing posted:Please don't resort to that, claiming someone is one of the McCoys is one step removed from hate speech. Don't McCoy shame, shitlord.
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I think Mirthless knows I'm just kidding   Really I just wanted an excuse to post the Gary McCoy desperate "No that's not Sandra Fluke and I'll beat you up" rant Also this one 
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Jagchosis posted:Makes sense, I don't think Latuff has ever used the Thomas Nast American party mascots, when he refers to Americans its always either Uncle Sam or Obama taking a poo poo on the middle east or getting their asses kicked by the ghost of Hugo Chavez or something. This just has the controversial message of "racists are jackasses". Also he usually tailors the language he uses to the audience 
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VitalSigns posted:I think Mirthless knows I'm just kidding "Don't be hateist, dude, I can't help that I was born a shithead." -Glenn McCoy AKA Mirthless, April 2014
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idonotlikepeas posted:No, she didn't. Which, really, strikes me as a missed opportunity. Wait is this the same Megazone who wrote a lot of terrible internet fanfiction I read a mockery of when I was a kid?
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loquacius posted:"Remember, everyone, racism will go away by itself if we just stop talking about it! Right? Right!" But but but Morgan Freeman saaaaaaid  thus stop talking about it!
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:But but but Morgan Freeman saaaaaaid Well if everyone stops talking about race as a thing and we all stop caring about it at all, sure, that stops... one part of racism, I guess. The effects of institutionalized racism (lots of black people being poor, mostly) are still around though!
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Your Friend posted:
"Hakeem Jeffries posted:Despite having a Muslim first name, he is a Baptist. You're a loving moron, Muir. You know that?
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Requires such report to include: (1) an analysis of the use of telecommunications (including the Internet, broadcast television and radio, cable television, public access television, commercial mobile services, and other electronic media) to advocate and encourage violent acts and the commission of hate crimes as specified in the Hate Crime Statistics Act; (2) NTIA recommendations; and (3) updates concerning the role of telecommunications in crimes of hate and violent acts against ethnic, religious, and racial minorities." hmm yes how sharia-ish
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