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May Design Contest: Design a Fighter/non-spellcasting martial class for Pathfinder which can compete with Wizards. This is loving Hard Mode, baby!
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May 6, 2014 06:35
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Not... really? Unless you mean one that the standard PF fan would accept, which is impossible because fighters must be subordinate to wizards in all things 
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May 6, 2014 06:48
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I think I might quit tabletop games.
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May 6, 2014 07:02
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P.d0t posted:I think I might quit tabletop games. Ok, I'll bite. That seems a bit extreme especially for someone who just finished their own homebrew game. What happened?
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May 6, 2014 07:06
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Covok posted:Ok, I'll bite. I stared into the engine of 4th Edition, and it stared back into me. I dunno. Everybody I game with just wants to play 3.5 or PF (or if you catch them on a bad day, GURPS or Rolemaster or Hackmaster) and I just can't be bothered. I also wouldn't consider any of them "friends", we're just strangers who hang out to play D&D. And I can't get anyone to try my game. The lite-er stuff just doesn't seem up my ally (too much roleplaying or GM fiat are non-starters) When I think about GMing a game again, I either can't come up with anything interesting or I can't think of anything that I could get my current group of gamers to play. I'm not even sure I could GM a campaign that was as compelling as my first; likewise, I feel like I don't have another game system in me to create after "finishing" my first one. 
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May 6, 2014 07:18
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Take a break. Either you'll find you want to do tradgaming stuff again after a while or you'll move on to something else in life. Either is okay, but don't force yourself to do something you aren't enjoying 
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May 6, 2014 07:36
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P.d0t posted:Everybody I game with just wants to play 3.5 or PF Find better people to game with.
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May 6, 2014 08:23
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P.d0t posted:When I think about GMing a game again, I either can't come up with anything interesting or I can't think of anything that I could get my current group of gamers to play. I'm not even sure I could GM a campaign that was as compelling as my first; likewise, I feel like I don't have another game system in me to create after "finishing" my first one. It's not just you, y'know. Sometimes you run a game too long or get way too used to what was going on/take too long a break and the momentum's not there and you only recall the horrible growing pains from the last time you began a new campaign and... Yeah. It's not just you.
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May 6, 2014 09:18
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Find better people to game with. This too
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May 6, 2014 09:22
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P.d0t posted:I stared into the engine of 4th Edition, and it stared back into me. Seriously, take a break. Games will still be here if you want to come back to them, and you sound like a case of burnout right now. And if you don't come back you'll be happier not. Also 3.X/PF aren't as terrible as this board makes out. They wouldn't stand out by 90s standards; it's just that since the turn of the century game design has advanced rapidly.
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May 6, 2014 12:11
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I've had fun with 3.PF, but god would I never ever run them again. Trying to actually design fun encoutners is a serious pain in the rear end. I ended up basically completely ignoring monster creation and just estimating stats then giving them cool abilities. Plus the headache of working with my players to make sure all their characters will actually be able to contribute, and policing for major power level discrepencies (my main group was usually fine, but sometimes somebody was a little too much above or below the party power curve)... And of course I always had to use houserules, like making the skill list something remotely sane. Oh and I can just gently caress off if I want to use published monsters, because generally there's neither rhyme nor reason to their challenge ratings, nor any sort of balance on their ability spreads, so I have to pay a fuckton of attention to what the monsters do and figure out myself if they're a reasonable challenge for the party. Basically, with a good group and some effort from the GM, 3.PF can be a lot of fun, but I'd much rather play, and especially run, 4e or Dungeon World or 13th Age for my D&D fix. Esser-Z fucked around with this message at 13:09 on May 6, 2014 |
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May 6, 2014 13:02
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Last time I was invited to play Pathfinder I subbed a Gunslinger, had that choice banned, subbed a Fighter and got him banned for my "overpowered build". The other players were two wizards, a druid and a cleric. Even if Pathfinder wasn't a pretty badly done game the playerbase often seals the deal for me.
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May 6, 2014 13:09
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There's that, too. PF attracts a certain player base that has... shall we say different gaming philosophy than I do. I could trust my standard group, made up of my friends, to game reasonably in 3.PF, but we all moved on to 4e and 13A and a world hack some of us are working on, and nobody wants to go back.
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May 6, 2014 13:12
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Play some board games. It'll scratch the gaming itch and you won't have to put prep work in.
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May 6, 2014 17:09
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It really is amazing how upset some people can get if you manage to accidentally put together a fighting-based character using homebrew/house rules who actually outputs as much damage as a wizard. Though the only times I saw this strategy banned in 3.0/3.5 groups were times that someone actually could outdamage a wizard in a round ... even though of course given the area-effect potential a wizard would still do more damage in virtually every practical gaming situation.P.d0t posted:I think I might quit tabletop games.
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May 6, 2014 17:35
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Quarex posted:Hey, everyone hits that wall at some point.
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May 6, 2014 17:45
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Covok posted:At the end of next week, I'm gonna have nothing to do for way too long. I'll do it if you need someone to do it. I'd be willing to pass it off to ya if you can find somebody I know a bit better to partner up with or at least vouch for ya. Most of the #badwrongfun crew counts. No offense, I just literally have no idea who you are
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May 7, 2014 06:04
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Tollymain posted:I'd be willing to pass it off to ya if you can find somebody I know a bit better to partner up with or at least vouch for ya. Most of the #badwrongfun crew counts. No offense, I just literally have no idea who you are No, that's understandable. I don't think we conversed until this moment so you don't really have any reason to trust me. Since I mostly just float around here when I have free time, I don't have anyone to vouch for me, I assume.
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May 7, 2014 06:57
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Man, I have to say that I feel immensely lucky to have a group as open-minded as mine. None of them are invested deeply in any given system, and although Dungeon World is my go-to system when I run games for them they've also been cool with trying out stuff like Labyrinth Lord, ACKS, 13th Age, 3:16 and have even expressed interest in Golden Sky Stories. As far as gaming goes I can't think of anything worse than having a group that's insistent on always playing 3.PF. I'm not as heavily against Pathfinder nor 3.5 as some people, but if they were the only systems on the table I too would probably burn out on gaming. I think in this case you might just need to find a new group that's willing to try out new things. Don't give up on gaming altogether, you might just need to find a more open-minded group. 
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May 7, 2014 12:53
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One of my friends is graduating college. He was big into roleplaying games so my friends thought it'd be cool to stat him up in a few games as a going away gift. I'm just wondering if anyone knows a game where engineer, his major, is a class.
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May 8, 2014 00:03
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I hope All Flesh Must Be Eaten is on the list of RPGs to stat him in. Only game where I've idly tried to stat myself. I couldn't even use up enough points to be a Norm, and that was with dumpstating points into bowling and the like. 
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May 8, 2014 02:19
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Evil Mastermind posted:Hell, I hit it every couple of weeks. I've just been good about not making flameout posts when I do lately. Sorry, your flameout post was glorious.
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May 8, 2014 03:36
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Uh...thanks? I guess?
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May 8, 2014 03:41
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Speaking of PF my GM for my Saturday Hackmaster 5E games is wanting to transfer the game to Pathfinder since some of the stuff out of the upcoming GMs guide is crazy complex for no reason. I enjoyed being an effective Fighter, but at this rate at least it frees up my Saturday before work!
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May 8, 2014 14:24
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Libertad! posted:May Design Contest: Design a Fighter/non-spellcasting martial class for Pathfinder which can compete with Wizards. Esser-Z posted:There's that, too. PF attracts a certain player base that has... shall we say different gaming philosophy than I do. I could trust my standard group, made up of my friends, to game reasonably in 3.PF, but we all moved on to 4e and 13A and a world hack some of us are working on, and nobody wants to go back. MadScientistWorking fucked around with this message at 15:47 on May 8, 2014 |
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May 8, 2014 15:44
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Dr. Doji Suave posted:...Hackmaster 5E ... crazy complex for no reason I thought that those two things kinda went together hand in hand? 
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May 8, 2014 16:10
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Darksaber posted:I thought that those two things kinda went together hand in hand? Most of the complex stuff is 'optional' but I guess that idea was tossed to the wayside for the GM Guide stuff. Tables everywhere for something as simple as spell mishap 
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May 8, 2014 16:28
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Tables and spell mishaps are like peanut butter and jelly!
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May 8, 2014 16:41
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Peanut Butter and Honey is the true, best PB sandwich. 
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May 8, 2014 17:01
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Look at this guy who doesn't know about the Peanut Butter and Banana.
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May 8, 2014 17:01
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All I'm getting from this line of conversation is that peanut butter is awesome: good with everything.
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May 8, 2014 17:02
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Hey guys! The store was out of peanut butter, so I got Nutella! (What TG concept would that be?)
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May 8, 2014 17:04
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Davin Valkri posted:Hey guys! The store was out of peanut butter, so I got Nutella! Trying to play Monopoly but accidentally buying Kobenhavn
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May 8, 2014 17:10
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What about crisps, sausages and black pudding?
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May 8, 2014 17:13
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Forums Terrorist posted:What about crisps, sausages and black pudding? Clearly Games Workshop products.
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May 8, 2014 17:22
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Forums Terrorist posted:What about crisps, sausages and black pudding?  Limey detected
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May 8, 2014 17:22
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P.d0t posted:
I could've sworn FT was Irish? Oh, oh! Where's FATE and PbtA on our buffet table? Is it like staple grains, good tasty breads, or what?
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May 8, 2014 17:26
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Davin Valkri posted:I could've sworn FT was Irish? I am, we eat mostly the same things (except irish black pudding isn't those horrible disc things you see in british chippers).
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May 8, 2014 17:30
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MadScientistWorking posted:The philosophy that Pathfinder attracts is observable in 13th Age. The difference is that for the most part it doesn't really wreck the game that appreciably. Can you elaborate on this? 13th Age, to me, appears to derive inspiration from both 3rd and 4th Edition and really does try to balance things out mechanically in regards to monsters and classes. And it doesn't have oodles and oodles of spells.
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