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Brandon Cooks keeps getting mocked to the Eagles at 22. Which is cool and all, but I just don't see that happening. He's basically DeSean Jackson v. 2.0, which is a good thing. But I just don't believe the Eagles are gonna get rid of DeSean and replace him with such a similar player. I'm thinking they just want a big reciever and DeSean is not the direction they are wanting to go. Amongst everything else with him.
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May 8, 2014 23:00
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JFF is going to bring a circus show to the team he goes to. Undraftable.
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May 8, 2014 23:01
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One of our teams is going to take him, that's a fact. It's Tebow all over again
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May 8, 2014 23:01
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BlindSite posted:Why so angry buddy? Because seriously, every team has been "considering" JFF at this point. JFF rumors should be ignored. The Giants signed Josh Freeman, have Curtis Painter and Ryan Nassib on the bench as well. Plus, Eli still has some years ahead of him, even if we don't know if they are good years or not, the franchise is behind him. Also Coughlin with JFF is loving lol. Also we have huge holes elseware that would be better addressed at 12. The Giants are not taking JFF.
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May 8, 2014 23:02
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Febreeze posted:Because seriously, every team has been "considering" JFF at this point. JFF rumors should be ignored. The Giants signed Josh Freeman, have Curtis Painter and Ryan Nassib on the bench as well. Plus, Eli still has some years ahead of him, even if we don't know if they are good years or not, the franchise is behind him. Also Coughlin with JFF is loving lol. Also we have huge holes elseware that would be better addressed at 12. Bortles then
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89 posted:Brandon Cooks keeps getting mocked to the Eagles at 22. Which is cool and all, but I just don't see that happening. He's basically DeSean Jackson v. 2.0, which is a good thing. But I just don't believe the Eagles are gonna get rid of DeSean and replace him with such a similar player. I'm thinking they just want a big reciever and DeSean is not the direction they are wanting to go. They have Riley Cooper and Maclin, they should be OK on the height front.
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Well I heard from a guy who works at the river mill that his buddy dan who works over at corn station said his sister was close to the GM that's gonna draft that their Johnny boy who just can sling that pigskin around that drat field..... -This must have been what the 50s sounded like. Oh wait.
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shiksa posted:Bortles then Not much possibility but he'd probably fit better on the team than JFF would. Still no chance. The only QB I see the Giants possibly taking at 12 is Bridgewater if he's there and they lost their top picks at OL and whatnot. I just don't see the Giants going QB at all at 12. Too many other needs and we don't know if Eli is actually broken or not yet.
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Alouicious posted:y'all know it IS possible to not immediately start draft picks They already have the future greatest QB backing up (Josh Freeman). No need for greed.
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For those wanting to know what the comp for Mallett is @tomecurran said on 610 it will be a 5 thru 7th rounder — Texan Takeover (@texantakeover) May 8, 2014
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If any GM gives a 5th or 6th for Mallet I'm going to fall out of my chair. I mean poo poo Pryor actually had game experience and still got dealt for a 7th.
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Febreeze posted:The Giants are not taking JFF I haven't seen the Bears linked to JFF yet. Maybe I should start a blog and get mentioned by someone on ESPN
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Bigass Moth posted:If Cleveland traded a mid-round pick for Cousins I would be OK with them not drafting a QB. Kirk Cousins is really bad, you should not want this. Intruder posted:Jager sucks I don't think anybody drinks Jager because they want a pleasant experience.
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A Man and his dog posted:If any GM gives a 5th or 6th for Mallet I'm going to fall out of my chair. He was taken in the third round in 2011. He now has years of mentoring from Brady and Belichick under his belt. So, somehow his value went down BEYOND a 6th rounder after being taken in the third and gaining valuable NFL pro experience? I realize he's ridden the Bench, but so did Aaron Rodgers for a while under Favre.
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pmchem posted:He was taken in the third round in 2011. He now has years of mentoring from Brady and Belichick under his belt. So, somehow his value went down BEYOND a 6th rounder after being taken in the third and gaining valuable NFL pro experience? I realize he's ridden the Bench, but so did Aaron Rodgers for a while under Favre. I don't think you know how trading players for draft picks works if you think his value should go up from a third
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pmchem posted:He was taken in the third round in 2011. He now has years of mentoring from Brady and Belichick under his belt. So, somehow his value went down BEYOND a 6th rounder after being taken in the third and gaining valuable NFL pro experience? I realize he's ridden the Bench, but so did Aaron Rodgers for a while under Favre. Aaron Rodgers had talents aside from being 6' 6" and smoking meth
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Intruder posted:I don't think you know how trading players for draft picks works if you think his value should go up from a third Well, if you actually read my post I didn't say that anywhere. My post was an expression of disbelief that someone would think a 6th for him was unreasonable.
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The biggest thing with Mallett is that in the few limited reps he's taken, mostly in preseason, he's looked like garbage. If he had showed anything at all at any time, his value would probably be higher. The Patriots shouldn't trade him for that, but I don't think it'd be smart to offer much more.
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Democrazy posted:What are the odds that someone goes crazy and draft Tom Savage or Mettenberger high? High as in tonight? Probably pretty low. I would not be surprised to see either go in the second though, and I will laugh a lot if it happens. pmchem posted:He was taken in the third round in 2011. He now has years of mentoring from Brady and Belichick under his belt. So, somehow his value went down BEYOND a 6th rounder after being taken in the third and gaining valuable NFL pro experience? I realize he's ridden the Bench, but so did Aaron Rodgers for a while under Favre. Valuable NFL pro experience like being kept stapled to the bench for the past 3 seasons even in blowouts because Belichick knows he sucks out loud?
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Alouicious posted:Aaron Rodgers had talents aside from being 6' 6" and smoking meth Mallett has a hell of an arm. He probably would've gone in the first if not for drugs.
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pmchem posted:Well, if you actually read my post I didn't say that anywhere. My post was an expression of disbelief that someone would think a 6th for him was unreasonable. His value is nil. He has one year left until he's a free agent, so if he somehow pulls something out of his rear end this season you have to pay him a lot of money instead of having four or five years of cheap service time from a draft pick. There's also no reason to believe he'll be worth a crap because in what limited time he's played in mostly preseason he's shown next to nothing. The type of LB or TE you could get at the top of the 6th for special teams play is probably more valuable than anything he'd give a team Better?
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Intruder posted:His value is nil. He has one year left until he's a free agent, so if he somehow pulls something out of his rear end this season you have to pay him a lot of money instead of having four or five years of cheap service time from a draft pick. If he played well, you'd actually probably get him at a reasonable deal. Might be a short one, but he likely wouldn't light the world on fire, so he wouldn't have much to stand on to get a big, long contract.
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pmchem posted:Well, if you actually read my post I didn't say that anywhere. My post was an expression of disbelief that someone would think a 6th for him was unreasonable. You might get a special teams player for a 6th rounder, not a lovely meth-head QB.
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Volkerball posted:If he played well, you'd actually probably get him at a reasonable deal. Might be a short one, but he likely wouldn't light the world on fire, so he wouldn't have much to stand on to get a big, long contract. Kinda like Matt Flynn
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Intruder posted:His value is nil. He has one year left until he's a free agent, so if he somehow pulls something out of his rear end this season you have to pay him a lot of money instead of having four or five years of cheap service time from a draft pick. There's also no reason to believe he'll be worth a crap because in what limited time he's played in mostly preseason he's shown next to nothing. Yes, much better. If a team really thinks he might be good, getting him now and letting him ride the bench and re-signing him when he's a FA (and still has shown nothing in live games) would be savvy. But if he's actually good they'd need to play and pay him. So it becomes a complicated question: if you give a 6th for him now, you're paying a 6th and next year's contract. If you wait until he's a FA, you lose out on a possible contributor this season and have to get in whatever limited bidding war (possibly worth more than a 6th) for him next season. It's a non-trivial question and I can imagine a team paying a 6th just to find out. But there are good points on either side.
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Febreeze posted:Because seriously, every team has been "considering" JFF at this point. JFF rumors should be ignored. The Giants signed Josh Freeman, have Curtis Painter and Ryan Nassib on the bench as well. Plus, Eli still has some years ahead of him, even if we don't know if they are good years or not, the franchise is behind him. Also Coughlin with JFF is loving lol. Also we have huge holes elseware that would be better addressed at 12. While I didn't and don't think the Giants are going for JFF. That list of QBs after Eli is probably the worst argument you can make though.
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Intruder posted:Kinda like Matt Flynn Matt Flynn did set the world on fire, and his sample size was a lot smaller than what Mallett's would be if he was penciled in as the Texans starter next season. Also Flynn didn't even get 10 aav.
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I've made my peace with the fact that I won't be satisfied with this draft no matter what. There simply aren't enough picks to take all of the players I like. The one thing that I ask, and I don't think this is too unreasonable, is that the Ravens not draft Taylor Lewan. After Rice dragging his bagged into the public light I can't really deal with rooting for another dude that lovely.
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Intruder posted:In his career Mallett has accumulated negative passing yardage on 8 attempts and will be 26 years old this season. I'd definitely rather have whatever special team contributor you can find late in the draft Didn't people speculate that Hoyer would suck hard too? Mallett might be nothing but there is an argument to made for bringing him in for a 6th considering the fate of most 6th round picks it's not a massive investment.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:I've made my peace with the fact that I won't be satisfied with this draft no matter what. There simply aren't enough picks to take all of the players I like. The one thing that I ask, and I don't think this is too unreasonable, is that the Ravens not draft Taylor Lewan. After Rice dragging his bagged into the public light I can't really deal with rooting for another dude that lovely. Is lost offseason a thing too? I think the one thing Ravens fans can depend on is their draft not being terrible.
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BlindSite posted:Didn't people speculate that Hoyer would suck hard too? Mallett might be nothing but there is an argument to made for bringing him in for a 6th considering the fate of most 6th round picks it's not a massive investment. Well I also looked at the rushing stat instead of the passing stat in PFR (mutter) For some reason the little google blurb shows rushing yards instead of passing yards but doesn't identify them as such But anyway, Mallett would also push Keenum out which would make me one sad fan
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I can't wait for the Jaguars to select JFF only for him to pull an Eli and demand a trade.
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BlindSite posted:Didn't people speculate that Hoyer would suck hard too? Mallett might be nothing but there is an argument to made for bringing him in for a 6th considering the fate of most 6th round picks it's not a massive investment. Hoyer played three and a half games before getting hurt, it is still well within the realm of possibility that he in fact sucks hard.
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A Man and his dog posted:I can't wait for the Jaguars to select JFF only for him to pull an Eli and demand a trade. Better than the bullshit rumors about Bradford going to the Jags for a 2nd rounder and the Rams taking him.
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BlindSite posted:Is lost offseason a thing too? I think the one thing Ravens fans can depend on is their draft not being terrible. No, it should be good. We just aren't likely to take 24 first/second round prospects that I fallen in love with over the past few months.
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I've basically remained ignorant of the draft this year, so for the most part I'm going into tonight blind. Why did I hear that a lot of teams were souring on Bridgewater though? Poor combine?
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Grozz Nuy posted:Hoyer played three and a half games before getting hurt, it is still well within the realm of possibility that he in fact sucks hard. Fair enough, but he showed a lot more than I expected.
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