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Wouldn't Ordo Malleus be more prone to that than Ordo Xenos? Forgive my limited knowledge of the setting, but if I recall correctly most aliens (notable exception: Tyranids) are more prone to applying a Voorhees Transform* on you than hollowing out your mind. *Like a Laplace Transform, but in this case it converts a person to a collection of meat.
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Let's just say there's a lot of aliens in 40K's expanded stuff who like to nestle in your mind-space and meat-space in their own fun little way.
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May 14, 2014 03:25
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Just because they aren't part of the main factions, doesn't mean they wont gently caress you up. The 40k universe sucks.
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May 14, 2014 03:31
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Case in point, Hruds. gently caress those guys
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May 14, 2014 03:36
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TheLastRoboKy posted:Let's just say there's a lot of aliens in 40K's expanded stuff who like to nestle in your mind-space and meat-space in their own fun little way. Yeah, but at least you'll merely lose your life, instead of having your soul used as Slaanesh's dildo. Compared to Malleus and Hereticus, Xenos Inquisitors are comparatively safe (unless you're dealing with Dark Eldar).
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May 14, 2014 03:50
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CommissarMega posted:Xenos Inquisitors are comparatively safe (unless you're dealing with Dark Eldar). Then they are Slannash's dildo anyway, since Dark Eldar use their slaves as substitutes to feed Slannash in their place.
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CommissarMega posted:Yeah, but at least you'll merely lose your life, instead of having your soul used as Slaanesh's dildo. Compared to Malleus and Hereticus, Xenos Inquisitors are comparatively safe (unless you're dealing with Dark Eldar). I find it endlessly amusing that we even use the term "comparatively safe" when comparing the things Inquisitors of different focuses deal with. Then again it's a moot argument at best cause we've already noted that a speciality doesn't necessarily mean an Inquisitor will not come across the primary foes of the other focuses.
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"My lord the forge world seems to be suffering from an infestation of rats" "EXTERMINATUS?" "But sir I'm sure we could just..." "EXTERMINATUS!" "Sigh" Kharn_The_Betrayer fucked around with this message at 04:20 on May 14, 2014 |
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May 14, 2014 04:17
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Kharn_The_Betrayer posted:"My lord the forge world seems to be suffering from an infestation of rats" Skaven aren't a joke, Kharn.
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Kharn_The_Betrayer posted:"My lord the forge world seems to be suffering from an infestation of rats" Well I assume they get a discount the more they use them.
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CommissarMega posted:Yeah, but at least you'll merely lose your life, instead of having your soul used as Slaanesh's dildo. Compared to Malleus and Hereticus, Xenos Inquisitors are comparatively safe (unless you're dealing with Dark Eldar). Having read Mark of the Xenos and Koronus Bestiary (the Monster Supplements for Deathwatch and Rogue Trader, respectively) and feel this statement is debatable.
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TheLastRoboKy posted:I find it endlessly amusing that we even use the term "comparatively safe" when comparing the things Inquisitors of different focuses deal with. Then again it's a moot argument at best cause we've already noted that a specialty doesn't necessarily mean an Inquisitor will not come across the primary foes of the other focuses. True that. I'm just saying that, all things considered, an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor would mostly deal only with things that'll only take his life and leave his soul alone. As deaths go in the Imperium, it's not all that bad. chiasaur11 posted:Skaven aren't a joke, Kharn. Of course they are! You're saying that like they actually exist  SirPhoebos posted:Having read Mark of the Xenos and Koronus Bestiary (the Monster Supplements for Deathwatch and Rogue Trader, respectively) and feel this statement is debatable. I have those books too, and even the worst Yu'Vath artifacts just kill you horribly or steal your mind; I don't recall anything about souls being eaten. CommissarMega fucked around with this message at 04:41 on May 14, 2014 |
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CommissarMega posted:True that. I'm just saying that, all things considered, an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor would mostly deal only with things that'll only take his life and leave his soul alone. As deaths go in the Imperium, it's not all that bad. Wellll Chaos and Xenos have large amounts of intersection. Land on a certain planet where the local fauna fancy themselves followers of Nurgle and you're in for some serious pain.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Wellll Chaos and Xenos have large amounts of intersection. Oh come now, they just want to give you hugs, horrible plague infested hugs.
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LemonRind posted:Well I assume they get a discount the more they use them.
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JT Jag posted:"Crazy Inquisitor Dave's Discount Exterminatus! For all your trouble planets! Orbital Bombardments, Virus Bombs and more! Infestation of the Xeno? Worried about psykers dragging a planet into the Warp? Do you think that guy that looked at you crossways might be a heretic? So many reasons to call Crazy Inquisitor Dave's Discount Exterminatus! Every 10th Exterminatus is free!" Do all 10 Exterminati(?) have to take place in the same postal area for the offer to be valid? This is important!
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ZoninSilver posted:Do all 10 Exterminati(?) have to take place in the same postal area for the offer to be valid? This is important!
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So what exactly does happen to unmangled souls? Given how awfully dominant Chaos seems in the spiritual things, what's 40K afterlife like as far as we know?
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HGH posted:So what exactly does happen to unmangled souls? Given how awfully dominant Chaos seems in the spiritual things, what's 40K afterlife like as far as we know? They say those who believe in the Emperor fall under his protection. Those who don't, get eaten by chaos spirits in the warp.
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TheLastRoboKy posted:Still, there's always the Halo Devices which can make you functionally immortal for a while before turning you into a bug-man that really wants to eat people's organs. I looked up a little more info on the Halo devices, and all I can think about is that they seem remarkably like the Behelits from Berserk.
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HGH posted:So what exactly does happen to unmangled souls? Given how awfully dominant Chaos seems in the spiritual things, what's 40K afterlife like as far as we know? No observable non-Hell-based afterlives, other than technologically mediated ones (such as the eldar Infinity Circuits).
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Green Intern posted:I looked up a little more info on the Halo devices, and all I can think about is that they seem remarkably like the Behelits from Berserk. Maybe they are. Maybe the God Hand are Daemon Princes.
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I want to know just who let Drogyn perform his little experiments in a Titan Manufactorum? Did the Archmagos know about this? Why did nobody just shoot him and dump him, his toy and everything he'd ever touched into a lead box and drop it off on Titan?
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Cradok posted:I want to know just who let Drogyn perform his little experiments in a Titan Manufactorum? Did the Archmagos know about this? Why did nobody just shoot him and dump him, his toy and everything he'd ever touched into a lead box and drop it off on Titan? The logs explicitly mention that the techpriests have no idea the power source could explode.
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Cradok posted:I want to know just who let Drogyn perform his little experiments in a Titan Manufactorum? Did the Archmagos know about this? Why did nobody just shoot him and dump him, his toy and everything he'd ever touched into a lead box and drop it off on Titan?
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JT Jag posted:Yeah, calling a Manufactorum, any Manufactorum really, an acceptable risk to run your experiments, is enough of a leap. But a Titan Manufactorum? That's insanity on so many levels. A single active Titan wins a battle for a planet just by being there and changes a battle for an entire sector. Do your dumb heretical experiments somewhere else. Almost literally anywhere else, honestly. Cogboys have a nasty habit of being shortsighted when shown some shiny xenotech (which is what I'm assuming the device is).
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It's also really really hard to build Titan manufactorums. Like, super hard. I may think Titans are pretty silly, but taken in-setting that's a completely irreplaceable resource, irreplaceable enough to make Exterminatus off the table almost no matter what happens to the planet. Risking blowing it up is pretty drat stupid.
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Drogan basically kicked in the front door, demanded a workspace, refused to tell anyone what he was doing and didn't consider any potential consequences of the amazingly insane thing he was doing. You know, the behavior of most Inquisitors who like science. But, Drogan's lack of foresight in handling a very volatile warp-based power source near a Titan Manufactorum is a whole new level of stupid and irresponsible.
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ElrondHubbard posted:Cogboys have a nasty habit of being shortsighted when shown some shiny xenotech (which is what I'm assuming the device is). Though even in extreme cases they (and, hell, most Inquisitors for that matter) tend to at least get the idea that doing high-risk research of such a nature should be done in a place where everything going horribly wrong won't cause disastrous collateral damage. Someone like Amberley Vail from the Cain books (who is also Ordo Xenos) would probably get a bitching fit if someone told her a fellow Inquisitor goofed as hard as Drogan did here.
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Night10194 posted:It's also really really hard to build Titan manufactorums. Like, super hard. I may think Titans are pretty silly, but taken in-setting that's a completely irreplaceable resource Each titan has to have it's machine-spirit installed, and each titan's machine-spirit is tiers above nearly every other "spirit" in the entire armory of the Imperial Guard, Marine Legion and so on outside of the Imperial Navy. We're talking
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Neflame posted:whole new level of stupid and irresponsible. Ding ding ding ding. You have said that which drives the 40k universe. Everything that can go wrong always goes worse.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Everything that can go wrong always goes worse. The only minor upside is that most of the time there is someone to blame. Whether or not that person is alive in the aftermath to be properly punished is a whole other story. What I'm saying is that everything that goes wrong on Graia is entirely Drogan's fault. Everything. I'm sure there's some way to blame him for the Ork invasion.
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Neflame posted:Drogan basically kicked in the front door, demanded a workspace, refused to tell anyone what he was doing and didn't consider any potential consequences of the amazingly insane thing he was doing. You know, the behavior of most Inquisitors who like science. But, Drogan's lack of foresight in handling a very volatile warp-based power source near a Titan Manufactorum is a whole new level of stupid and irresponsible. The difference is that what some Inquisitor and some idiot Cogboys do in the lack of safety of their own home is up to them. What they do in an irreplacable facility is another thing. As said earlier, an Inquisitor has as much actual authority as they can manage to take, and the AdMech rarely feel themselves beholden to the authority of anyone. 'Give me a room and don't ask what I'm doing in it' will almost never go down well with the Mechanicus, let alone whomever must be in charge of Graia.
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And all of this is assuming Drogan isn't corrupted or possessed already. That power source uses warp energy, so I'm guessing that it will summon daemons and/or Chaos marines instead of saving the day.
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Cythereal posted:And all of this is assuming Drogan isn't corrupted or possessed already. That power source uses warp energy, so I'm guessing that it will summon daemons and/or Chaos marines instead of saving the day. Well, given that he's not bleeding from his wound and we've started finding Servoskulls that explicitly state that they'd only unlock upon his death...
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GilliamYaeger posted:Well, given that he's not bleeding from his wound and we've started finding Servoskulls that explicitly state that they'd only unlock upon his death... I kinda interpreted that as he's just hanging onto them until he dies. Presumably after his magic anti-alien halo death wave has killed every alien in the universe and he's king poo poo of the imperium. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 20:08 on May 14, 2014 |
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I can understand the recklessness on one level; Drogan basically has a double doctorate on the Xenos threat compared to the elementary school level knowledge most citizens have. Being able to selectively butcher thousands of Orks while not annihilating humans in an area would be a total game changer, to the point where Orks would have to just avoid Imperium space altogether. That's huge. This is counterbalanced, of course, by the fact that he's totally ignored that even if his device works, since it's pulling from the Warp it could pull out as many daemons as it kills orks. And there's no way to tell how that will work because Warp rifts are as varied as the places they exist. Drogan should know that, and he's ignoring it, because he's a lovely engineer.
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Don't worry, if chaos does so up, the fact that they were summoned by Drogan ensures their inevitable failure, since the only thing that man can do is screw up.
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Really surprised that nobody has gif'd that magnificent scoop-slam "Orkamania runnin' WILD on your spinal column!"
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Coolguye posted:
Can you even do engineering with warp things? Most explanations of warp happenings I've seen sound an awful lot like 'a wizard did it.'
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