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Peaceful Anarchy posted:To them they are. Because, despite their arguments, the opposition to abortion isn't about " sanctity of life" but rather an attack against the sexual revolution and the idea that people are free to have sex and love the person they choose. It's about punishing and disapproving loose women just like the opposition to gay marriage is about punishing and disapproving homosexuals. I would be in absolute glee if the abortion debate in this country was shifted hard towards a goal of total unwanted-pregnancy reduction rather than quibbling about the number of times a woman sees a penis in her lifetime, and especially the number of desired times.
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It won't, because the abortion issue is driven by misogyny/obsession with traditional gender roles, and not the act of abortion itself.
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Sex is only for babies, and only if you're married! Out-of-wedlock babies and single mothers/fathers are bad and married women never have abortions!
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:This is just like a fine wine from Tony Perkins Aw man. I was on board with the potato jokes until I found out the writer was an awful regressive dishonest shithead. We need more potato jokes in politics these days. Come back, Dan Quayle! Come back!
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I like to imagine Idaho politics is just potato jokes and potato rhetoric 24/7, cause potatoes is mostly all i know about Idaho. That and marriage equality
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Chokes McGee posted:We need more potato jokes in politics these days. Come back, Dan Quayle! Come back! I bet you could whip something up about that Catholic priest who went to the ER because he was hanging curtains in the nude and fell sphincter first onto a greased potato.
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# ? May 15, 2014 04:12 |
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Bad to good justices:
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# ? May 15, 2014 04:34 |
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Please elaborate on Scalia not being as big a shithead as Alito. Not doubting you, just looking for specific examples. I hate to say it but the point goes to the lich.
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RZApublican posted:Mods, please change my name to "counterfeit marriage". Hold my marriage up to the light, and you'll see a founding father smiling back down on you.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Scalia can be somewhat decent on 4A issues. Also from all accounts he and Sotomayor get along well, whereas Alito belonged to a group at their shared alma mater that was dedicated to keeping minorities out of the law school. Plus he's got to get at least some credit from even vehemently anti-Scalia people for (accidentally) being the reason for all these overturned bans, which is more than can be said for Alito.
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alnilam posted:I like to imagine Idaho politics is just potato jokes and potato rhetoric 24/7, cause potatoes is mostly all i know about Idaho. Idaho politics are loving baffling. The 4 Republican candidates for governor (Butch Otter and some other people who have no chance ever) had a debate question about gay marriage, and Harley Brown was the voice of reason. Harley Brown is known for zingers like this: quote:I want to severely restrict the Idaho Department of W-ealth and Hell-fare. Brown also called helmet laws "vile" and supports a state militia that does not answer to the federal government, only to the governor (in this case, him).
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alnilam posted:I like to imagine Idaho politics is just potato jokes and potato rhetoric 24/7, cause potatoes is mostly all i know about Idaho. Imagine Utah, except the portion that doesn't have Salt Lake City hates the other portion so much that they put themselves into a different timezone.
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Chokes McGee posted:We need more potato jokes in politics these days. cruft posted:I bet you could whip something up
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Idiot Kicker posted:Idaho politics are loving baffling. The 4 Republican candidates for governor (Butch Otter and some other people who have no chance ever) had a debate question about gay marriage, and Harley Brown was the voice of reason. Don't forget his reason for supporting SSM is that when he was a cab driver in Boise he discovered that gay people "love each other more than I love my motorcycle."
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SubponticatePoster posted:Scalia can be somewhat decent on 4A issues. Also from all accounts he and Sotomayor get along well, whereas Alito belonged to a group at their shared alma mater that was dedicated to keeping minorities out of the law school. As a law student I genuinely liked reading his opinions because they were well-written and sometimes even entertaining, despite the almost invariably bad opinions.
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smilingfish posted:As a law student I genuinely liked reading his opinions because they were well-written and sometimes even entertaining, despite the almost invariably bad opinions. Yeah, he's a brilliant guy who can lay out his reasoning extremely clearly while also maintaining a distinct style and tone. I'd love to read a legal blog by him, in part because he's such an rear end in a top hat. I just wish he weren't on the goddamn SCOTUS.
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A CONCRETE, UNDENIABLE LINK BETWEEN HOMOSEXUALITY AND PEDOPHILIA HAS BEEN FOUND! Matt Barber has given us all the proof we need that gays are boy-raping savages: Wait, looks way too artifacty and photoshopped to be real... That would be because it is. It was photoshopped from a sign reading "Republicans for Obama". Right Wing Watch called Barber out on his bullshit, and pastor Jeff Allen came to his defense, saying it was an (WARNING:Link is to a hate-site)innocent mistake. An obvious Photoshop being paraded around like it's proof that all gays are child raping monsters, totally a mistake! In Russian news, according to Matthew Schmidt Putin has been labeling anti-Russia protesters in Ukraine as "gay nazis": quote:The gay Nazis label was simultaneously an attempt to tie the new pro-Europe camp in Kiev to the hated German Third Reich while also taking advantage of the growing acceptance of gay marriage in the West, particularly in the United States. "Putin has said homosexuality is not our values, and that sense of tolerance of homosexuality is not part of Euroasia," said Schmidt, who will be in Ukraine monitoring the May 25 elections that are being overseen by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). The above-linked report notes that Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin tweeted this week that Conchita Wurst's win at Eurovision "showed supporters of European integration their European future - a bearded girl." That comment is apparently considered further evidence of Putin's campaign to tie Russia's expansion plans to anti-gay sentiment. Tell me, where have we heard that strategy before? staticman fucked around with this message at 19:46 on May 15, 2014 |
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Arkansas judge struck down all Arkansas state laws banning marriage equality.quote:A day after the state Supreme Court effectively halted gay marriages in the state, Pulaski County Circuit Judge Chris Piazza expanded his ruling striking down a constitutional ban to also include the prohibition on clerks issuing same-sex marriage licenses. Justices had ruled Wednesday that Piazza’s decision on the gay marriage ban did not change that license law.
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Sweeney Tom posted:Arkansas judge struck down all Arkansas state laws banning marriage equality. Utah (I know, but still), Idaho, Arkansas. Is this one of those things where the more rigid the tree is, the easier it is to get knocked over by wind?
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It can't be, because that means Mississippi and Louisiana would have had equality for forever. Maybe New Orleans keeps LA from being totally "straight."
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cruft posted:
I think so yeah. In Oregon we've had one of those half-assed civil union things for years and we've acknowledged same sex marriages in other states as marriages for at least a year (resulting in a lot of couples going to Washington and California to get married). As a result it's taking longer to get it, although hopefully not too much longer. It seems like states with straight up bans and no civil union or reciprocity are getting knocked down faster.
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# ? May 15, 2014 22:27 |
I don't think the order of the remaining states has much to do with the rigidity of the bans. Nevada is behind Idaho because the case was decided before Windsor, not because domestic partnerships slowed things down. There are 29 constitutional amendments that have not been settled and only 3 come from states with something close to marriage.
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What is the current score then? I've been trying to keep tabs on it, but things are moving so quickly it's tough. Does anyone have the current count?
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# ? May 16, 2014 01:47 |
The short answer is 18 states and DC. Marriage available: 18 - AR, CA, CT, DE, HI, IA, IL*, MA, MD, ME, MN, NH, NJ, NM, NY, RI, WA, VT Marriage settled: 17 - Above minus AR Out of state marriages recognized: 1 - OR Wins stayed: 6 - ID, MI, OK, UT, TX, VA Incomplete** wins stayed: 4 - IN, KY, OH, TN Losses: 1 - NV*** *Not all counties until June 1st **Mix of out of state recognition and plaintiff-specific rulings ***Before Windsor and meaningless I'm not 100% sure on the list of rulings, but nobody's getting married so whatever.
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Basically everyone except Montana and South Dakota either allow gay marriage or are being sued in court for not allowing it.
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AYC posted:Basically everyone except Montana and South Dakota either allow gay marriage or are being sued in court for not allowing it. Montana, South Dakota, and North Dakota. But a lawsuit's been worked on for weeks and is coming at some point in South Dakota.
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AGirlWonder posted:Maybe New Orleans keeps LA from being totally "straight." Look, for the most part, gay marriage is banned. It's just every year or so, there's a big party going on, lots of drinking... things happen, y'know? That doesn't mean they like that kind of law on a regular basis!
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The bigots are coming full circle! Houston Pastor: Businesses Have The Right To Refuse Service To Jews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_ZBaePAYx8
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Judge McShane is making his ruling in Oregon Monday.
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Jesus Christ did she not see that coming? "I don't think that's the issue." Do people not understand the concept of civil rights? Don't answer that.
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Arkansas Supreme Court Stops Same-Sex Marriages During Appeal There's not much beyond the headline other than this eye searing rainbow scarf. I hope it's real and not a color balance mistake.
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:There's not much beyond the headline other than this eye searing rainbow scarf. I hope it's real and not a color balance mistake. I wonder what the battery life on that scarf is like.
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# ? May 16, 2014 23:13 |
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Is... is it actually reflecting light back into his cheeks?
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# ? May 16, 2014 23:21 |
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"Here we see the Rainbow Wizard granting a wish"
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Liberty Counsel sees a GAY PANDEMIC if Michigan okays gay marriagequote:The Liberty Counsel yesterday filed a brief with the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals in which they claim that Michigan must not allow same-sex marriage because it would somehow increase the incidence of STDs. https://www.liberty.edu/media/9980/attachments/051414-Brief-Amicus-Michigan-Marriage.pdf
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quote:not only is there no bodily good or function toward which two same-sex bodies can coordinate
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Liberty Counsel sees a GAY PANDEMIC if Michigan okays gay marriage You know, they easily could have made a stronger case here. A gay STD pandemic can easily start infecting straight people, and this is in fact exactly what happened with AIDS in the US. But this didn't occur to Liberty Counsel, because they didn't think about the existence of bisexuality.
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I don't quite understand the 'Gays have STDs! That's why we want to stop them indulging in a ritual that promotes monogamy and committing to one person for life' But I guess they can't just say 'Ewwww, gays are icky!' anymore.
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Spalec posted:I don't quite understand the 'Gays have STDs! That's why we want to stop them indulging in a ritual that promotes monogamy and committing to one person for life'
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twodot posted:This seems to fit into the standard Republican stance of "If we make activity X (which we think is bad) safer, more people will do X, thus we must make X more dangerous!".
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