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Pleasant Friend posted:So can Littlefinger marry Sansa now? Or is her marriage to Tyrion still binding? I think Littlefinger bets on the Mountain solving that problem for him. Even if Tywin's plan would have gone through and Tyrion had ended up at the Wall (probably making Lord Commander in a few months) he would haven been free to marry Sansa.
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That DICK! posted:Also I like how none of the Lannisters or Starks or anyone really can find Arya, but apparently some fat ex-con and his buddy can track her down like loving Boba Fett. qxx posted:Those guys weren't looking for Arya, they were looking for The Hound. In the previous episodes, the Lannisters and friends were told of The Hounds general whereabouts. Nobody (with the exception of Hot Pocket and now Team Brienne) knows that Arya is alive (explained last night) or that she is with The Hound for that matter. Those clowns "finding Arya" was just because she was with The Hound. And they aren't telling anyone now so the mystery remains.
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May 19, 2014 16:16
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That DICK! posted:Also I like how none of the Lannisters or Starks or anyone really can find Arya, but apparently some fat ex-con and his buddy can track her down like loving Boba Fett. They are tracking down the Hound, Tywin put a fat bounty on his fat head. No one cares about his little sidekick with a pointy stick.
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May 19, 2014 16:18
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Some questions... 1. What was the meaining behind Dany telling Jorah to tell Daaaaaario~ that Jorah is the one who changed her mind? 2. Was Bronn's reason for not fighting for Tyrion because he had been bought out by Lannisters or he didn't want to fight the Mountain? 3. What's Oberyn's reason for fighting for Tyrion? Sympathy? Or just a really easy way to fight the Mountain without seeing like he straight up murdered someone?
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May 19, 2014 16:24
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Decius posted:I think Littlefinger bets on the Mountain solving that problem for him. Even if Tywin's plan would have gone through and Tyrion had ended up at the Wall (probably making Lord Commander in a few months) he would haven been free to marry Sansa. I don't remember if they mention it in the show but I recall there being some kind of law stating that if you don't "seal the deal" then a marriage can be annulled, which makes the bedding ceremony a good way to make sure the bride the groom actually gently caress on their first night. But being a window works better imo.
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May 19, 2014 16:27
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^They have made mentioned of it. I think Olenna did just recently with Joff/Marge.Hand of the King posted:Some questions... 1. That one had me baffled as well. I kinda feel like it is a message to Daario that he isn't her most important advisor. 2. He has a good thing going and doesn't want to die. Risk/reward is too high. 3. Oberyn has wanted revenge for his sister/nephew/niece since we met him. The only thing he is concerning himself with right now is killing the Mountain and getting his vengeance finally.
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May 19, 2014 16:27
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qxx posted:Those guys weren't looking for Arya, they were looking for The Hound. In the previous episodes, the Lannisters and friends were told of The Hounds general whereabouts, important to note the reports did not mention anything about The Hound having a traveling companion either. Nobody (with the exception of Hot Pocket and now Team Brienne) knows that Arya is alive (explained last night) or that she is with The Hound for that matter. Those clowns "finding Arya" was just because she was with The Hound. And they aren't telling anyone now so the mystery remains.
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May 19, 2014 16:30
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Hand of the King posted:Some questions... 1. Maybe as a way to tell Dario that he's not the only man she listens to? 2. Fighting the Mountain is suicide and even if he won, there wasn't any good assurance that Tyrion could pay him since he'd probably be disowned anyway. 3. Tywin has no intention of ever making the Mountain pay for his crimes, so yeah this is the cleanest way for Oberyn to get his revenge.
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May 19, 2014 16:32
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Shath Hole posted:1. That one had me baffled as well. I kinda feel like it is a message to Daario that he isn't her most important advisor. Shath Hole posted:3. Oberyn has wanted revenge for his sister/nephew/niece since we met him. The only thing he is concerning himself with right now is killing the Mountain and getting his vengeance finally.
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May 19, 2014 16:32
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wyoak posted:As an added bonus, killing the Mountain and freeing Tyrion also would ruin Tywin and Cersei's day. Yeah, for sure. That Oberyn scene describing how much of a oval office Cersei was to Tyrion was soooooooooo good. Also, I freakin' love the Houng/Arya scenes. Those two are great together.
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Why do people think Tyrion will come out with nothing? If Tywin could just disown him, he'd have done ages ago, and if he did it right after Tyrion was proven innocent by the gods (effectively granting his wrong accuser his inheritance), that would look real bad...qxx posted:Hmm, not sure that The Hound is still hell-bent on ransoming Arya at this point, or it seems like that is becoming less of a thing as their 'friendship' is developing. I think Brienne and Pod will run into them. Brienne will be all, "Sworn to return her to safety" and The Hound will be all, "She is safe. gently caress off" and then poo poo will get awkward[ly violent]. His commitment to ransoming her has always been balanced with the fact that he insists on taking her to her family. He could've taken her to the Lannisters, who are richer and nearer. He's been protecting the Stark girls since season 1; he just also happens to need money Bobo the Red fucked around with this message at 16:52 on May 19, 2014 |
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May 19, 2014 16:46
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Bobo the Red posted:He could've taken her to the Lannisters, who are richer and nearer. After "gently caress the king" there's literally zero chance any Lannister interaction doesn't end with him beheaded.
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May 19, 2014 17:00
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So was Oberyn's speech to Tyrion, outside of saying how much he despises Cersi and wants to kill the mountain, is also to tell him he doesnt want to kill him, just pities him immensely?
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May 19, 2014 17:11
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Hand of the King posted:Some questions... 1. She wanted Jorah to know she still might, possibly, at some point, ever, like him back because she is a drunk on power puppeteer now. She's a teenage girl and she is setting up two boys to fight over her like in Twilight. 2. Both 3. Both. The "I didn't see a monster" speech was pretty drat sympathetic. Oberyn rules
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May 19, 2014 17:24
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I thought the new Mountain was pretty badass, I mean the motherfucker was one-handing a claymore like Arya one-hands needle.
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May 19, 2014 17:25
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It was Dany's way of saying "Ser Jorah, you are the sweetest guy I know. You're like a brother to me! *hug*"
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May 19, 2014 17:28
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Why do people think it's creepy for Littlefinger to like Sansa but not for Jorah to like Dany, Jorah seems older than LF for sure and Dany is younger than Sansa for sure as well. e: wait no, Dany is 2 years older right? Sansa was 14 and Dany was 16 in season 1. Still, Jorah's like 45 and LF seems 40 maybe precision fucked around with this message at 17:35 on May 19, 2014 |
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May 19, 2014 17:33
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precision posted:Why do people think it's creepy for Littlefinger to like Sansa but not for Jorah to like Dany, Jorah seems older than LF for sure and Dany is younger than Sansa for sure as well. Jorah didn't obsess over Dany's mother and talk about she could have been his daughter right before kissing her uninvited.
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E: Also that^^^^^^precision posted:Why do people think it's creepy for Littlefinger to like Sansa but not for Jorah to like Dany, Jorah seems older than LF for sure and Dany is younger than Sansa for sure as well. I think part of it might be the overall character of the unrequited love. Most of the relationships in the show are ~problematic~, so it's a matter of degrees. Littlefinger comes across as maneuvering to procure and subdue a fetish object, wheras Jorah Mormont demonstrates geniune admiration, affection, and loyalty for Dany.
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MrBims posted:Jorah didn't obsess over Dany's mother and talk about she could have been his daughter right before kissing her uninvited. Oh, so it's not an age difference thing at all? That makes sense, I just thought most goons were flipping out over age differences again
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Yeah, that shouldn't actually be a question. There is no comparison that Littlefinger's creeper status is way above Jorah's.
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precision posted:Why do people think it's creepy for Littlefinger to like Sansa but not for Jorah to like Dany, Jorah seems older than LF for sure and Dany is younger than Sansa for sure as well.
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Shath Hole posted:Yeah, that shouldn't actually be a question. There is no comparison that Littlefinger's creeper status is way above Jorah's. Also I seriously doubt Littlefinger feels actual affection for Sansa and didn't just play both her and Lysa to set up an actual confrontation. E: Also, most of the characters in the books are about 10-20 years younger than they are portrayed here, with a few exceptions. I'm really glad they aged various characters, avoiding teenybopper drama or the idea that Eddard and Catelyn were old hands at lordship, having reached the ripe old ages of their mid-thirties. That's about as book chatty as I want to get, other than to say the book's version of the Eyrie is hilariously inaccessible. Name Change fucked around with this message at 17:44 on May 19, 2014 |
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Also I seriously doubt Littlefinger feels actual affection for Sansa and didn't just play both her and Lysa to set up an actual confrontation. While I doubt it's affection in any non-twisted sense, he definitely desires Sansa. She's a teenage Cat all over again.
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May 19, 2014 17:43
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It'll be interesting to see what happens when Brienne/Pod and/or The Hound/Arya enter the Vale and Littlefinger is there instead of Lysa. Also what will Sansa do?
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Universe Master posted:While I doubt it's affection in any non-twisted sense, he definitely desires Sansa. She's a teenage Cat all over again. Does he desire her or her power though? I feel like he wants her status more than he does her and the fact that she is hot is just a bonus.
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Shath Hole posted:Does he desire her or her power though? I feel like he wants her status more than he does her and the fact that she is hot is just a bonus.
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nooneofconsequence posted:Maybe in show terms but Sophie Turner was very much a child when the show started and is still very young whereas Emilia Clarke has been in her 20s the whole time. This should not matter even a little bit unless they're like doing actual sex scenes. e: meaning if you're going to freak out about ages, use the character's age, not the actor's
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Fancy Hat! posted:So was Oberyn's speech to Tyrion, outside of saying how much he despises Cersi and wants to kill the mountain, is also to tell him he doesnt want to kill him, just pities him immensely? I saw it as demonstrating Oberyn sincerely is a great guy who knows honor and fairness. Taking him saying "I didn't see a monster. I saw a baby" was his way of saying that tyrion is seen as the human he is, not as a dwarf that seems to scare everyone so much so they exaggerate his deformities. At a time like this tyrion had to have loved hearing he has a friend. Red viper can't be cooler to me. He steals every scene he's in and he comes off so wise and so caring while being incredibly intelligent and supposedly a badass. God I hope he's good enough to take on the mountain
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AMReese posted:I almost expected to see Littlefinger lock up Sansa in Tyrion's old cell after having used her to dispose of Lyanna. That would have been quite the interesting development.
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Shath Hole posted:Does he desire her or her power though? I feel like he wants her status more than he does her and the fact that she is hot is just a bonus. He wants the gently caress out of her dead mum and is projecting the hell out of that onto her. He's got issues. The fact that the power he needs and the representation of his Cat issues are all in the same person is a bonus and makes things simpler.
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Durzel posted:Do you not think it's remotely noteworthy for Varys' spies to note that The Hound was travelling with a child companion for no apparent reason whatsoever? You could explain it away perhaps by saying that Varys was told about Arya, but chose to keep that information to himself I guess, but in and of itself it's a bit strange to omit that information. Let's say the spies reported back, "We've spotted The Hound in the Riverlands traveling with a small, adolescent companion". Phrase it however you want, there is literally nothing that would make anyone jump to the conclusion that it was Arya with him. The Lannister men at the keep, which The Hound killed, saw 'Arya' and made the assumption she was his sexxing/rape companion. Any spy would probably do the same or figure it may be a squire (like Pod to Brienne); not jump to some crazy conclusion it was Arya. Bobo the Red posted:His commitment to ransoming her has always been balanced with the fact that he insists on taking her to her family. He could've taken her to the Lannisters, who are richer and nearer. He's been protecting the Stark girls since season 1; he just also happens to need money Ya, I'm hip to his reasons and him being a quiet protector of the Stark girls from jump street. And because of that subtle role he plays, I think it's going to lead to some static with Team Brienne when they cross paths is all I'm saying (again, predicting). qxx fucked around with this message at 18:05 on May 19, 2014 |
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I've heard that Jorah seems way creepier in the books, but I haven't read them myself. Part of that may come from Dany being 13 and Jorah being super hairy.
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uuuummm posted:I've heard that Jorah seems way creepier in the books, but I haven't read them myself. Part of that may come from Dany being 13 and Jorah being super hairy. So in the books, Jorah is GRRM's self-insert, is what I'm getting here.
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precision posted:So in the books, Jorah is GRRM's self-insert, is what I'm getting here. Naw that's definitely Sam.
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Fast Luck posted:Worst Mountain yet. Looks nothing like the previous Mountains. Looks like a 20-year-old overgrown baby. Bjornsson is a strong-man rather than a bodybuilder or just a big athletic guy. He's scary looking but the shots of him in armour make him look like a 12 foot tall plate metal weeble that couldn't right itself. The first Mountain was huge, muscular, and looked like he could perform in a fight without falling over. He might look better in the actual episode, though.
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The Little Kielbasa posted:That would have been quite the interesting development.
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uuuummm posted:I've heard that Jorah seems way creepier in the books, but I haven't read them myself. Part of that may come from Dany being 13 and Jorah being super hairy.
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