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timrenzi574
Sep 11, 2001

grack posted:

Oh, and I guess this was missed but Nikon just released the loving tenth body for their Nikon 1 system a few days ago.

Though it is available in a fetching yellow, so I guess that counts as a new feature.

Flooding the market with cheap product that requires expensive consumables works for the printer and razor industries right? You laugh now, but once Nikon 1 market penetrance reaches a critical mass, Kimura-san presses the big red button on his desk that self destructs all the batteries and invalidates 3rd party ones. Instant financial dominance.

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Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

Fart Car '97 posted:

I saw numerous people with the Nikon 1 system during my one day on New York this week, and a single person using the EOS M system (I think).


I saw more Fuji X-Es (Plus one X-Pro and one X-T1) than either Nikon 1 or EOS-M. I see Fuji's quite often here in the wild (in D.C.).

I saw a x-e2 w/ an 18 f/2 in the wild today. I also was asked to take a family photo w/ an iPad. "Just press that grey button"

timrenzi574
Sep 11, 2001

Dren posted:

I saw a x-e2 w/ an 18 f/2 in the wild today. I also was asked to take a family photo w/ an iPad. "Just press that grey button"

My aunt does that - she uses her ipad as a camera everywhere she goes. It's the weird twist on "why would I want to carry a CAMERA when I've got my tiny little phone right here in my pocket!"

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

timrenzi574 posted:

My aunt does that - she uses her ipad as a camera everywhere she goes. It's the weird twist on "why would I want to carry a CAMERA when I've got my tiny little phone right here in my pocket!"

it's perfectly great so long as a stiff breeze doesn't come along and lift you into the air while you're holding it up

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

If the XF 18-55 2.8-4 'kit' lens is any indication, the 17-55 2.8 is going to be phenomenal :stare:

The lens feels great, focuses fast, the OIS is amazing (though I really hope they adopt the 'OIS turns on when focusing begins' method that Canikon uses), and its focusing is basically completely silent. And it's smallest when wide open, the opposite of the Canon 24-70 2.8, which is fully extended at 24mm and that always bugged me.

It really makes me wish Fuji would just give us full manual video control in a patch. Sure the image quality is bad but it would be nice functionality to have in a pinch.

Fart Car '97 fucked around with this message at 15:18 on May 19, 2014

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
No one has the Fujinon 35mm f/1.4 in stock. B&H is estimating that it'll be off backorder tomorrow...

I've kind of admitted defeat on getting it before Thursday, but I want to pick it up before June and the only place I've seen it is on eBay with a bunch of sellers from Hong Kong or Tokyo.

What should I do? :ohdear:

-Anders
Feb 1, 2007

Denmark. Wait, what?
Hi mirrorless thread.

I'm currently using a first-gen Sony NEX 3, with the kit lens, the 16mm pancake and some adapted m42 lenses.
I've been eyeing the Fuji X-T1, but I can't justify the pricetag, sexy as it may be.
Now I've in the meantime gotten an offer for a used NEX 7, at roughly USD 650.

Now that's pretty cheap, but I dont know if there's any real reason to upgrade to the NEX 7. I can see that it has better bracketing options, better dials and ofcourse an EVF. I can get the 50mm f/1.8 along with the body for a further USD 190, which is a little below half the retail price.

So I submit to you, would it be worth it? I don't think I'll ever manage to save for the X-T1, and if I do, I doubt I'll be able to justify spending that kind of money on it when I dont really shoot that many pictures.

krackmonkey
Mar 28, 2003

when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...

Phone posted:

No one has the Fujinon 35mm f/1.4 in stock. B&H is estimating that it'll be off backorder tomorrow...

I've kind of admitted defeat on getting it before Thursday, but I want to pick it up before June and the only place I've seen it is on eBay with a bunch of sellers from Hong Kong or Tokyo.

What should I do? :ohdear:

http://www.glazerscamera.com/store/used-items/used-lenses/used-slr-lenses/used-auto-focus-slr-lenses/used-fuji-xf-35mm-f1-4-r.html

good people, I can vouch for them


-Anders posted:

Hi mirrorless thread.

I'm currently using a first-gen Sony NEX 3, with the kit lens, the 16mm pancake and some adapted m42 lenses.
I've been eyeing the Fuji X-T1, but I can't justify the pricetag, sexy as it may be.
Now I've in the meantime gotten an offer for a used NEX 7, at roughly USD 650.

Now that's pretty cheap, but I dont know if there's any real reason to upgrade to the NEX 7. I can see that it has better bracketing options, better dials and ofcourse an EVF. I can get the 50mm f/1.8 along with the body for a further USD 190, which is a little below half the retail price.

So I submit to you, would it be worth it? I don't think I'll ever manage to save for the X-T1, and if I do, I doubt I'll be able to justify spending that kind of money on it when I dont really shoot that many pictures.

If you REALLY don't shoot that often, then don't bother upgrading out of your NEX3, you're better off investing in glass than keeping up with the endless arms race for newer, better bodies. The 50/1.8 is considred to be one of the must-have NEX lenses and is sharp and fast, plus has OSS.

That said, I would not recommend paying $650 for the NEX7 when you can get a brand new (and widely considered to be the replacement for the NEX7) sony ILCE a6000 body (the NEX name is retired, but it's still an e-mount body) for $650 brand-new. There's a lot to like about the a6000, including vastly improved AF, the built in EVF, wi-fi, NFC, increased dynamic range, and apps. Plus the extra megapickles the kids are all into today.

krackmonkey fucked around with this message at 17:56 on May 19, 2014

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Should I call them to ask the condition of the lens?

krackmonkey
Mar 28, 2003

when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro...

Phone posted:

Should I call them to ask the condition of the lens?

It wouldn't hurt, they're good honest and knowledgeable folks and they offer a guarantee on everything they sell.

arbybaconator
Dec 18, 2007

All hat and no cattle

I picked up the Fujinon 23mm 1.4 over the weekend and oh my god. This lens is nuts. Can't wait to spend more time with it.

mAlfunkti0n
May 19, 2004
Fallen Rib
I've been reading and reading .. some mixed results it seems. Am I crazy for thinking I can do OK with some old MF Minolta lenses on my X-E1? Is it easy to manually focus?

-Anders
Feb 1, 2007

Denmark. Wait, what?
Manual focus takes practice, especially if you're trying to get something moving in focus.
But yeah, with peaking you should be able to do alright. Just be really critical of what lenses you buy, as a lot of older glass is pretty soft compared to modern glass. I only have one really sharp older lens, the rest is pretty soft.
Either that, or you'll pay almost as much for some old glass as you could get new glass for.

mAlfunkti0n
May 19, 2004
Fallen Rib

-Anders posted:

Manual focus takes practice, especially if you're trying to get something moving in focus.
But yeah, with peaking you should be able to do alright. Just be really critical of what lenses you buy, as a lot of older glass is pretty soft compared to modern glass. I only have one really sharp older lens, the rest is pretty soft.
Either that, or you'll pay almost as much for some old glass as you could get new glass for.

I've stuck to the Minolta Rokkor-X 45mm f2 ($27) for the time being. That was listed by many as being pretty sharp. I doubt I will be taking many photos of moving subjects. I am more these days interested in taking my time and finding the small details in life, learning to be observant which is something I haven't done in the past.

whatever7
Jul 26, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

mAlfunkti0n posted:

I've been reading and reading .. some mixed results it seems. Am I crazy for thinking I can do OK with some old MF Minolta lenses on my X-E1? Is it easy to manually focus?

My experience is that if you don't mind zoom in focus, XE1 is very good. You do get one button zoom in, also instant switch between 2 zoom levels. My only issue is I don't like push-in the control wheel. Its not as easy to press as a regular button.

When I had manual lens I use zoom-in focus alot more than peaking focus. Fuji also give you 2 levels of zoom focus, which are more useful than peaking IMO. Even when I had a NEX3 camera I feel peaking was not as precise as zoom in.

When you shoot old lens with zoom in enabled, you will find out the quality of the old lens right away. I had a Konica 135mm/2.4 lens that was in mint condition. I felt it was very hard to find the focus point when I took it to the park. It took me a few days to realize the lens was not just sharp enough for a APSC 16mp sensor no matte how hard I try.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
My X-E1 just got here. It's significantly different from the Canon 350D, but the form factor is perfect and it takes a pretty drat good first shot. :v:



e: read the manual a bit and headed over to the college. Apparently ISO performance has improved slightly since 2005; I left it in aperture priority and just shot towards the engineering building



ISO 5000
f/14
18mm
3.2 sec

Phone fucked around with this message at 02:52 on May 20, 2014

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

-Anders posted:

Hi mirrorless thread.

I'm currently using a first-gen Sony NEX 3, with the kit lens, the 16mm pancake and some adapted m42 lenses.
I've been eyeing the Fuji X-T1, but I can't justify the pricetag, sexy as it may be.
Now I've in the meantime gotten an offer for a used NEX 7, at roughly USD 650.

Now that's pretty cheap, but I dont know if there's any real reason to upgrade to the NEX 7. I can see that it has better bracketing options, better dials and ofcourse an EVF. I can get the 50mm f/1.8 along with the body for a further USD 190, which is a little below half the retail price.

So I submit to you, would it be worth it? I don't think I'll ever manage to save for the X-T1, and if I do, I doubt I'll be able to justify spending that kind of money on it when I dont really shoot that many pictures.

If you get the NEX-7 are you still gonna gear lust for an X-T1? It doesn't sound like you are ready to give up your X-T1 dream so save your money and get the camera you really want. Remember, the poor man pays twice.

rohan
Mar 19, 2008

Look, if you had one shot
or one opportunity
To seize everything you ever wanted
in one moment
Would you capture it...
or just let it slip?


:siren:"THEIR":siren:




What is it about the X-T1 you want, specifically? If you just want to buy into the Fuji ecosystem, KEH has like-new X-E1s going for $400. Or you could get an EX X-E1 with the excellent 18-55 kit lens for slightly under 650. This would be a good idea if you're keen on Fuji's lenses, because of course you could buy into the system before you commit to the most expensive body.

Sure, it won't be the X-T1, but neither will the NEX 7. Alternatively, you could hold out until KEH has some used X-E2s, which would narrow the gap even further.

Bob Socko
Feb 20, 2001

Baron Dirigible posted:

What is it about the X-T1 you want, specifically? If you just want to buy into the Fuji ecosystem, KEH has like-new X-E1s going for $400. Or you could get an EX X-E1 with the excellent 18-55 kit lens for slightly under 650. This would be a good idea if you're keen on Fuji's lenses, because of course you could buy into the system before you commit to the most expensive body.

Sure, it won't be the X-T1, but neither will the NEX 7. Alternatively, you could hold out until KEH has some used X-E2s, which would narrow the gap even further.
Or he could buy my X-E1 for $375!

Seriously though, the X-E1 with the kit lens for $650 is a great deal. Mine rarely leaves my camera; it's sharp at all apertures, stabilized, and focuses reasonably fast.

-Anders
Feb 1, 2007

Denmark. Wait, what?
I have actually been looking at the X-E1,but I'm a little worried about the viewfinder lagging too much. From what I've seen of YouTube videos, it seem like it might be a problem.

Also, I'm in socialist Europe, so the cheapest X-E1 kit I've been able to find is $1100 :smith:
I figure that with customs and shipping, I wouldn't be able to save much by buying from the US.


E: yes the reason for why I want to go with fuji, is that I want to buy in to their system. I like the way they do business, and I hate the way Sony does theirs.

-Anders fucked around with this message at 08:55 on May 20, 2014

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*
I've seen the XE-1 for just over £300 in the last month here in the uk. Currys had them.

Edit- currently £599 with the XF 18-55 and XC 50-230.

Serotonin fucked around with this message at 14:35 on May 20, 2014

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

Well I was happy with my XE1 + 35mm, but now that Fujirumors has two sources talking about a digital medium format camera... :derp:

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

Helicity posted:

Well I was happy with my XE1 + 35mm, but now that Fujirumors has two sources talking about a digital medium format camera... :derp:

And to think I expected to keep my X100s for the long term :negative:

RustedChrome
Jun 10, 2007

"do not hold the camera obliquely, or the world will seem to be on an inclined plane."
But they claim it will use the Sony/Pentax sensor. A Fuji without the X-trans sensor is just another digital camera.

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

Helicity posted:

Well I was happy with my XE1 + 35mm, but now that Fujirumors has two sources talking about a digital medium format camera... :derp:

They already make a medium format camera though

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1040910-REG/hasselblad_h_70380534_b_h4d_40_le_dslr_camera.html

:razz:

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

RustedChrome posted:

But they claim it will use the Sony/Pentax sensor. A Fuji without the X-trans sensor is just another digital camera.

Yeah, but it could be a Medium format in a useable form factor(most medium format digital backs are studio-only monsters), with the support Fuji has become so lauded for. THAT's a premium worth paying.

HolyDukeNukem
Sep 10, 2008

Fart Car '97 posted:

Yeah, but it could be a Medium format in a useable form factor(most medium format digital backs are studio-only monsters), with the support Fuji has become so lauded for. THAT's a premium worth paying.

Then you might as well buy a Pentax 645z. Most people mention that holding the 645d was about as comfortable as most full frame cameras. And in all honesty, I'd bet that the Pentax will be cheaper as well.

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

HolyDukeNukem posted:

Then you might as well buy a Pentax 645z. Most people mention that holding the 645d was about as comfortable as most full frame cameras. And in all honesty, I'd bet that the Pentax will be cheaper as well.

Meh, I would be really surprised if Fuji came out of nowhere with a medium format back that is the same thing as every other medium format back. It would be much more in their recent character to drop an X100S style MF back with a fixed lens, smaller form factor, and at a cheaper price point than the competition.

mAlfunkti0n
May 19, 2004
Fallen Rib
I caved. Sending back my X-E1 body and picking up the kit. From what I understand the kit lens is amazing, and the non bundle price is completely insane.

whatever7
Jul 26, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

HolyDukeNukem posted:

Then you might as well buy a Pentax 645z. Most people mention that holding the 645d was about as comfortable as most full frame cameras. And in all honesty, I'd bet that the Pentax will be cheaper as well.

Pentax 645D looks like a Pentax 645. The Fuji one probably will look like a GA645 rangefinder (AKA giant Canon G16) It's very different in size and shape. With all these rumor about Sony making a MF camera and now the Fuji getting back to medium format, they probably have the insider info that Hasselblad is going to poo poo the bed soon. Fuji is no stranger to the MF business.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

mAlfunkti0n posted:

I caved. Sending back my X-E1 body and picking up the kit. From what I understand the kit lens is amazing, and the non bundle price is completely insane.

It's a really good lens. It focuses fast, never hunts, and takes great pictures. If my 35mm had all of those properties I'd probably gay marry it.

HolyDukeNukem
Sep 10, 2008

whatever7 posted:

Pentax 645D looks like a Pentax 645. The Fuji one probably will look like a GA645 rangefinder (AKA giant Canon G16) It's very different in size and shape. With all these rumor about Sony making a MF camera and now the Fuji getting back to medium format, they probably have the insider info that Hasselblad is going to poo poo the bed soon. Fuji is no stranger to the MF business.

It is crazy hearing about all these medium format rumors. Wasn't there a Canon medium format camera rumor not too long ago?

I would say my skepticism about the Fuji medium format lies in the fact that I doubt they'll undercut the Pentax's price by that much and I doubt it'll have more features either. I'm sure it'll be a good camera, Fuji has proven they know what they are doing, it's just what would make me want it over the Pentax system.

RustedChrome
Jun 10, 2007

"do not hold the camera obliquely, or the world will seem to be on an inclined plane."
I just don't think Fuji has the budget to launch another niche camera.

xenilk
Apr 17, 2004

ERRYDAY I BE SPLIT-TONING! Honestly, its the only skill I got other than shooting the back of women and calling it "Editorial".
this is probably not the perfect thread but since it'll be attached to my fuji x-t1 I was wondering which manual macro nikon lens would people recommend? I'm thinking of just buying one like that and use it to take the typical ring shots and detail shots for my wedding contracts.

Also, does that thinking make sense? I'm thinking it'll be a fun way to incorporate the x-t1 in my lineup and a cheaper way to get a nice prime macro lens.

mAlfunkti0n
May 19, 2004
Fallen Rib
Why oh why did I wait this long to go mirrorless. My XE-1 just got here and I am already impressed. The size alone will improve my photography because I'll actually not mind taking this with me.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

whatever7 posted:

Pentax 645D looks like a Pentax 645. The Fuji one probably will look like a GA645 rangefinder (AKA giant Canon G16) It's very different in size and shape. With all these rumor about Sony making a MF camera and now the Fuji getting back to medium format, they probably have the insider info that Hasselblad is going to poo poo the bed soon. Fuji is no stranger to the MF business.
Newsflash: fuji makes all the hassy glass worth talking about.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

RustedChrome posted:

I just don't think Fuji has the budget to launch another niche camera.
Have they not been making cash by the truckload?

DP :(

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Showed off my camera at work because I work with nerds and new toys are always exciting. Took a pic of my coworker, the second one is just Photoshop's Auto-Tone:





I set the exposure bias down a third of a step, but the un-auto-toned still seems a tad too bright. Then again, I haven't done anything in forever.

Thanks again for pointing out that the X-E1 is dirt cheap and is awesome.

East Lake
Sep 13, 2007

Helicity posted:

Well I was happy with my XE1 + 35mm, but now that Fujirumors has two sources talking about a digital medium format camera... :derp:
:stare:

Digital GF670 please.

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Mightaswell
Dec 4, 2003

Not now chief, I'm in the fuckin' zone.
Digital 690 rangefinder :twisted:

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