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Star Man posted:In any good piece of science fiction, the protoss would be weird and have their own ideas of logic and common sense. The 'incomprehensible to human understanding' defence also falls apart when we see the Protoss exhibit highly human traits like pride, anger and so on.
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:The 'incomprehensible to human understanding' defence also falls apart when we see the Protoss exhibit highly human traits like pride, anger and so on. Perhaps. Until we can read the literary fiction written by extra terrestrials, our little monkey brains are limited to human experiences and assumptions. I'm also of the opinion that any sentient alien in the real world universe would not be so completely inhuman that it would not have some kind of range of emotions that would parallel a human's. Even dogs and other animals exhibit some kind of emotion.
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May 28, 2014 21:32
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Cythereal posted:Blizzard has also noted that the Protoss just don't think like humans do, and they aren't really rational in any human sense. It's their answer for why the Protoss only now reactivated the Colossi and decided their brief appearance in Heart of the Swarm's story was somehow a logical and sensible goal. Seriously, that was one of the biggest things that upset me about Aldaris' (and by extension, the Protoss High Council) thought process. You have an alien race that is steamrolling your forces, yet someone you consider a radical is a greater threat to your people than the invading aliens. I actually smiled when Kerrigan kills him in Episode IV, because that dumbass, instead of telling people he had suspicions about working with Kerrigan, mounts a rebellion to wipe out everyone. Yes, he tries to tell the player, but only during one conversation. After that? He completely cuts off contact with you and then, the second to last mission of the campaign is stomping out an internal rebellion led by Aldaris. All of which could have been avoided if Aldaris used his brain and presented his case to the player forces in a decent manner.
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May 28, 2014 22:17
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Star Man posted:Perhaps. Until we can read the literary fiction written by extra terrestrials, our little monkey brains are limited to human experiences and assumptions. I'm also of the opinion that any sentient alien in the real world universe would not be so completely inhuman that it would not have some kind of range of emotions that would parallel a human's. Even dogs and other animals exhibit some kind of emotion. They might not be built out of proteins.
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May 28, 2014 23:31
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wiegieman posted:They might not be built out of proteins. I'm aware of this.
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May 28, 2014 23:41
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AradoBalanga posted:That'd explain why a good part of Episode III's campaign is Artanis/player character, Jim and later on Fenix, Zeratul and Tassadar running from Aldaris and the other Protoss because Aldaris is more dead-set on executing Tassadar and Zeratul for heresy instead of dealing with the Zerg invasion of Auir.
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May 29, 2014 00:33
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Scalding Coffee posted:A simple idea and a well-known person have resulted in terrible consequences over time. Any enemy can be defeated, but radical ideas have rotted civilizations and/or deposed those in power. Especially since Tassadar was a huge hero even then and was basically saying 'all this poo poo we've been doing is dead wrong on like every level'.
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May 29, 2014 00:34
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wiegieman posted:They might not be built out of proteins. Um... hello!
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May 29, 2014 00:36
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Star Man posted:Perhaps. Until we can read the literary fiction written by extra terrestrials, our little monkey brains are limited to human experiences and assumptions. I'm also of the opinion that any sentient alien in the real world universe would not be so completely inhuman that it would not have some kind of range of emotions that would parallel a human's. Even dogs and other animals exhibit some kind of emotion. Wow, look at this UGLY BAG OF MOSTLY WATER Synastren fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 29, 2014 |
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May 29, 2014 01:24
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Star Man posted:Perhaps. Until we can read the literary fiction written by extra terrestrials, our little monkey brains are limited to human experiences and assumptions. I'm also of the opinion that any sentient alien in the real world universe would not be so completely inhuman that it would not have some kind of range of emotions that would parallel a human's. Even dogs and other animals exhibit some kind of emotion. Is this supposed to be some sort of explanation for why the dialogue in this game is getting increasingly difficult to take seriously and weighs so heavily on everything? Because if so, good try.
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May 29, 2014 01:57
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J.theYellow posted:Is this supposed to be some sort of explanation for why the dialogue in this game is getting increasingly difficult to take seriously and weighs so heavily on everything? You think it's bad now? Believe me, it gets worse. 
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May 29, 2014 02:13
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Cythereal posted:You think it's bad now? Believe me, it gets worse. And that's not even considering HOTS!
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May 29, 2014 02:44
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I never said StarCraft II's plot and dialog is good  Because it's bad. Really really bad.
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May 29, 2014 03:27
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Yeah the writing is pretty...yeah. There are some individual scenes that are pretty okay but as a whole it's not so great.
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May 29, 2014 03:45
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Feinne posted:Yeah the writing is pretty...yeah. The scenario designers are the real creative people.
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May 29, 2014 03:55
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Speedball posted:The scenario designers are the real creative people. Honestly yeah, the story for both Wings and Heart are forgivable entirely because the actual game part is pretty amazing. I'm really looking forward to seeing how Legacy's Protoss campaign will work, since the Terran and Zerg campaigns have some pretty significant differences mechanically.
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May 29, 2014 05:50
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Speedball posted:The scenario designers are the real creative people. He man they had Andy Chambers... Who admittedly was always better at writing crunch then he was fluff.
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May 29, 2014 11:53
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You know, one silly question that has bugged me since Starcraft is if it's ever stated in any Starcraft media how the Protoss race actually eat?
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May 29, 2014 14:01
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Sylphosaurus posted:You know, one silly question that has bugged me since Starcraft is if it's ever stated in any Starcraft media how the Protoss race actually eat? On that topic, Blizzard's lips are sealed.
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May 29, 2014 14:04
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They're photosynthetic and absorb water through their skin. No really.
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Sylphosaurus posted:You know, one silly question that has bugged me since Starcraft is if it's ever stated in any Starcraft media how the Protoss race actually eat? I remember following the game pretty closely while it was in development, and when that question popped up in one of the dev faqs they did instead of a question about gameplay, people poo poo bricks. If memory serves, they also decided which dt model went into the game with a poll that was met with overwhelming support for "both, pick one at random on unit spawn."
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May 29, 2014 14:51
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Kurieg posted:They're photosynthetic and absorb water through their skin. So they're pretty much 40k orks?
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I'd be surprised if Protoss where a fungus that grew inside those magic crystalline caves that gives them psychic powers, hence Aiour was pretty important to them if that was the case. Also if terrazine is the breath of the gods maybe it's also linked to their method of creation.
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If you've played through the campaign and want to feel better about yourself here's a link to the worst thing ever: DSP vs the Wings of Liberty It's snippets of the whole campaign, though, so obviously don't watch it if you've not been through it before. But yeah through his grim alchemy he manages to stagger drunkenly through failing at Normal, which is really pretty loving easy. Feinne fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Jun 6, 2014 |
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Jun 6, 2014 04:04
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Isn't DSP's entire gimmick being a horrendous failure at everything, though?
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CommissarMega posted:Isn't DSP Yes.
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Jun 6, 2014 05:44
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DSP is to gaming/life in general as woodchippers are to ducklings: a horrible, grisly mistake.
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Jun 6, 2014 06:27
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Oh my god. The SCII campaign basically holds your loving hand on normal difficulty. How can anyone be this incompetent at anything?
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ChaosSamusX posted:Oh my god. The SCII campaign basically holds your loving hand on normal difficulty. How can anyone be this incompetent at anything? There was some video thing where he was supposed to do an unboxing and he hosed that up too. It was like fifteen minutes long and I really wanted to find the screenshot in the Outside LP thread but couldn't. 
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The highlights for DSP's XCOM playthrough are also hilarious. It takes him soooo long to figure out basic gameplay mechanics, such as "use cover to avoid getting shot" and "every soldier has two actions per turn." Truly a master of failure.
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ChaosSamusX posted:How can anyone be this incompetent at anything? Have you been south of the mason-dixon line before?
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DSP is supported entirely through commissions as an al-Qaeda recruiter. you are literally Buddha if you don't want to throw the failed experiment that is America into the sun after watching this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8DwuQU6DDE how do you even gently caress up tuna salad. how do you take 20 minutes loving up tuna salad. HOW DO YOU gently caress UP SANDWICH ASSEMBLY. HOW DO YOU SOMEHOW SPEND BANK ON A PANNINI PRESS ENROUTE TO EITHER LET ALONE BOTH OF THOSE.
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He's constantly talking. Just babbling and babbling and babbling. His mouth isn't connected to his brain at all. 
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Willie Tomg posted:DSP is supported entirely through commissions as an al-Qaeda recruiter. I have come to the conclusion that DSP is either a sad, terrible mistake of our gene pool as a species, or a very, very dedicated satirist/cynic who mocks the lesser examples of such stupidity by knowingly going even further. I desperately hope it is the second.
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Delta Green posted:I have come to the conclusion that DSP is either a sad, terrible mistake of our gene pool as a species, or a very, very dedicated satirist/cynic who mocks the lesser examples of such stupidity by knowingly going even further. At some level I think he claims that he's just not trying very hard at, like, anything and that he 'could' be good if he did but he clearly proves that to be not the case because he is clearly trying really hard whenever he's playing fighting games against other people, but he's pretty bad there too. Also even if his terrible video gaming were satire the awful poo poo he says all the time would really make the whole thing still net unfunny, for example his reactions to Wings of Liberty make Blizzard's writers look like ardent feminists in comparison. Feinne fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Jun 7, 2014 |
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"There's this female here, but she's fully clothed? Like, she doesn't have her tits out? Alright, fine. That's bullshit, she didn't offer me head, but whatever."
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Feinne posted:At some level I think he claims that he's just not trying very hard at, like, anything and that he 'could' be good if he did but he clearly proves that to be not the case because he is clearly trying really hard whenever he's playing fighting games against other people, but he's pretty bad there too. He could either be a satirist, but still an awful person with no good sense of humor and the same unspeakable arrogance, or living proof that time and chance happen to all. I prefer the latter. At least there's hope for the rest of us in it somewhere, if you take the right angle.
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DSP is literally so dumb it's satire, there's plenty of running gag's to simulate his ineptitude. He's basically the 21st century's version of the Jester.  A video of him getting stuck for 9 minutes because of duck-jumping. (twitter comes to his rescue) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb8v2HvdMC0 CommissarMega posted:Isn't DSP's entire gimmick being a horrendous failure at everything, though?
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Yeah, that's the vibe I get- it's all just an act, a very unfunny one.
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