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cargo cult posted:what's worse, a quarter life crisis or being thirty? im glad that im slowly edging towards the culmination of my quarter-life crisis because at least i'll still have most of my life to do poo poo, but at 30? jesus i hope to have some poo poo figured by then.
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May 30, 2014 23:38
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Professor Tomtom posted:Reading is for faggots. I know it is probably triggering (That is the word your generation uses, right?) for you to hear about your bleak future, but I'm at least giving you honest feedback. If you want facts from HR that can improve your resume, help you find a better job, or improve your chances of finding a job in the first place, I will seriouspost. I don't mind helping people. I want people to find jobs in the careers they want to be in. If you don't respond to interviews, or you apply to every job out there, or you are applying outside your discipline, or you are not customizing your resume for each job you apply for, you are doing it wrong. I can help if you want. RE: HR not being a real job. HR is the last to be fired. So HR is the realest job in the whole building. So when I am laying all you guys off, I may know I am going to be gone, but not until you guys are gone first.
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May 30, 2014 23:39
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:HR is the last to be fired. So HR is the realest job in the whole building. So when I am laying all you guys off, I may know I am going to be gone, but not until you guys are gone first. corporate can still gently caress you in the butt real hard, they're the last ones to go really 
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May 30, 2014 23:40
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lol no one needs an HR department. a consulting firm can tell you what minor paperwork you need and do an audit to figure out what you missed. accounting can handle that and you can just outsource your payroll. entering garnishments is easy as gently caress especially if you use someone like ADP
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May 30, 2014 23:42
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My company just laid off its HR dept.
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May 30, 2014 23:45
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you heard it here folks, the "realest job" is now determined by being the one just ahead of the corporate executives in the mantrain
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May 30, 2014 23:45
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bigzak posted:lol no one needs an HR department. a consulting firm can tell you what minor paperwork you need and do an audit to figure out what you missed. accounting can handle that and you can just outsource your payroll. entering garnishments is easy as gently caress especially if you use someone like ADP Not true. It's a necessity for large/medium firms because the handling of employees/potential employees is a lot of work and you don't want to bog down actual important people with the work of dealing with office problems and reviewing resumes and stuff like that. It doesn't need to be that big though. I'm not sure what the general rule of thumb is but I'd guess 1 HR for every 25 people or so. At a small business, yeah we don't have an HR person an we use an outside payroll and accounting system which works great. But we only have 13 employees spread out over 2 offices.
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May 30, 2014 23:46
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The FBI is hiring a ton of people for their cyber crimes division and don't care if you smoke weed. They finally figured out that most coders are usually pot heads. Work for the government because who cares.
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May 30, 2014 23:46
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Xaris posted:Not true. It's a necessity for large/medium firms because the handling of employees/potential employees is a lot of work and you don't want to bog down actual important people with the work. It doesn't need to be that big though. I'm not sure what the general rule of thumb is but I'd guess 1 HR for every 25 people or so. 1 HR for 25 people are you insane
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May 30, 2014 23:48
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If anyone is wondering if this is a serious thread its not, the joke is everyone in GBS in unemployed and all this 'knowledge' is a form of experimental roleplaying.
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May 30, 2014 23:49
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Inzombiac posted:The FBI is hiring a ton of people for their cyber crimes division and don't care if you smoke weed. They finally figured out that most coders are usually pot heads. i met a guy from one of those amish but not amish communities who was being trained for one of those. i didn't really get why cause he had no special qualities besides being exceedingly tall and never even came out of his room despite us being in a pretty cool vacation spot. so yeah even goons can do it
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May 30, 2014 23:49
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Inzombiac posted:Work for the government because who cares. realest advice u can give sure you might have to get furloughed every once and a while but at least youll still have a job
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May 30, 2014 23:50
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HR was created as a way to keep a human face on an entity that tries its very best to gently caress real people as hard as possible.
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May 30, 2014 23:52
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:I know it is probably triggering (That is the word your generation uses, right?) for you to hear about your bleak future, but I'm at least giving you honest feedback. I have a pretty good white collar job actually. Also I'm not overhead, you are, but you don't understand that because you're stupid. Peace.
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May 30, 2014 23:54
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If you complain about "millenials", (whatever the gently caress that means cause the 20 something you are complaining about were born in the 90's), you are part of the problem, we didn't dig the ditch we live in right now.
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May 30, 2014 23:58
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HR sounds boring
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May 31, 2014 00:00
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:Seriously, how many of you are under 25? That is, how many of you are millennials with this entitlement attitude and this pseudo-intellectual bullshit? Oh look it's the unimportant worker who thinks he's some how different from all the other workers.
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May 31, 2014 00:00
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nutranurse posted:corporate can still gently caress you in the butt real hard, they're the last ones to go really I am corporate. There is no one above me. HR Director. The only person I report to is my CEO or my shareholders.
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May 31, 2014 00:01
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Yeah if you pick a poo poo major
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May 31, 2014 00:02
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ZionestLord posted:If you complain about "millenials", (whatever the gently caress that means cause the 20 something you are complaining about were born in the 90's), you are part of the problem, we didn't dig the ditch we live in right now. This guys a tiny little human being millenial probably, and a failson besides
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May 31, 2014 00:03
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gently caress the ROW posted:This guys a tiny little human being millenial probably, and a failson besides This guy just used the word "failson". Checkmate.
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May 31, 2014 00:04
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bigzak posted:1 HR for 25 people Yeah, that is pretty crazy. 1 HR for 1-100 is average. So 2 HR for 101-199, 3 HR for 200-299 and so on. That is the rule of thumb at least. Though at 2 HR it is usually a Generalist and an HR specialist like Payroll.
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May 31, 2014 00:05
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:I am corporate. There is no one above me. HR Director. The only person I report to is my CEO or my shareholders. Ha, I've never seen a directorship be in corporate, normally that poo poo's reserved for VP's and whatever also explains your lovely attitude, stop drinking the kool-aid, man
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May 31, 2014 00:13
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Usually when threads get derailed it's because of spergs flipping out on each other over cops or rape jokes or whatever, but this thread gets derailed because instead of bitching about college we all decided to have a serious discussion about the HR department?
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May 31, 2014 00:18
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it's like high school is a little preview of actual education then the system says "please insert $50,000 to continue"
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May 31, 2014 00:18
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st1LL_51ngl3 posted:Usually when threads get derailed it's because of spergs flipping out on each other over cops or rape jokes or whatever, but this thread gets derailed because instead of bitching about college we all decided to have a serious discussion about the HR department? Super important HR person Rhyone Peacemaker posted, it's to be expected. He's important don't you know. He is an important person. IMPORTANT. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 00:26 on May 31, 2014 |
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May 31, 2014 00:22
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Duck and Cover posted:Super important HR person Rhyone Peacemaker posted, it's to be expected. He's important don't you know. He is an important person. IMPORTANT. I can't help that I have knowledge that people are interested in and that makes other people feel threatened. Stop ellioting out and focus on getting better. You can be important too. You don't have to be an actor or a screenplay writer or famous. You can still be rich even without being famous.
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May 31, 2014 00:32
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Rhonyn Peacemaker why do you need to try and insert some sort of "you must be this tall" job credentials requirement into disagreeing with your bad and wrong views? Like seriously, I'm 25 and I make a decent living because I did my ms in a field that was lucrative so I understand it's theoretically possible to get into the right field at the right time but that doesn't change super high unemployment rates for recent graduates and more debt than they know what to do with. Yeah you can get through the system fine, but statistically a lot of people are getting really boned by it. When it becomes as big of a problem as it is now you really can't just try to blame individuals anymore.
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May 31, 2014 00:32
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STEM degrees are rad but a lot of people moving in on it. Gotta nut up and get that internship money in the summer. Build that CV my nigga.
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May 31, 2014 00:39
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ArbitraryC posted:Rhonyn Peacemaker why do you need to try and insert some sort of "you must be this tall" job credentials requirement into disagreeing with your bad and wrong views? Like seriously, I'm 25 and I make a decent living because I did my ms in a field that was lucrative so I understand it's theoretically possible to get into the right field at the right time but that doesn't change super high unemployment rates for recent graduates and more debt than they know what to do with. Yeah you can get through the system fine, but statistically a lot of people are getting really boned by it. When it becomes as big of a problem as it is now you really can't just try to blame individuals anymore. You can certainly blame people coming through the system when they get upset that the liberal arts degree isn't landing them a cushy 50k/year job. Not all degrees are created equal. Lets look at Business Admin degree, pretty watered down, but still passable. A 4 year BA in BA with no experience can land you jobs effectively in sales. Since all sales everywhere in hiring, the people not getting jobs are people who don't want to work in sales. Okay, then how are they getting any kind of leadership experience to become managers to use the degree in management they got? Required internships as a component of your graduation requirement was a huge help for this, but many schools allow folks to skip it if they do a "project" instead. So while my heart goes out to folks with 4 year degrees not getting jobs, the problem lies with not enough experience, and pissing away the college years. So much can be done with that time, yet they do literally nothing. They have minimal amounts of responsibilities (as a group) and yet they wonder why they don't get jobs. However, those that do perform internships, and work hard, guess what? They do well. Shocker, I know. Not everyone wins a trophy. Not everyone can be the best. Not all of the newly-minted engineers are going to be in cushy offices. Perhaps they need to be okay making 40k a year getting dirty and getting experience rather than whining about being unemployed.
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May 31, 2014 00:40
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Serious post trade apprenticeships are the new university, because at some point everyone started going to university and forgot how to do things like "build a deck". The richest guys I know are all builders and they actually got paid to do their study. The guys my age with the most disposable income are all plumbers/cabinet makers/etc. University is meant for the pursuit of knowlege, not a career imo.
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May 31, 2014 00:40
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abigserve posted:Serious post trade apprenticeships are the new university, because at some point everyone started going to university and forgot how to do things like "build a deck". Trade work is crazy lucrative right now. Depending on your industry, age, experience, and knowledge you can make as little at $14/hr starting to as much as $38/hr. I have never seen such an insane pay range for standard rates. Those aren't Line-Level to CEO rates either. That is more like Entry Sales to Best-In-Class Sales. It is really impressive.
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May 31, 2014 00:43
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Yeah gently caress putting your GPA on your resume. If you were worth a poo poo in school you should have some honors and awards to talk about. Oh, my state is running advertisements that say "not everyone goes to college".
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May 31, 2014 00:46
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TBH I know in MD not enough people are applying to the state's various campuses so they're offering all sorts of deals to get people in. The rate of college attendance in the country's starting to drop (not because it's useless, though, but because of how much it costs).
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ArbitraryC posted:Rhonyn Peacemaker why do you need to try and insert some sort of "you must be this tall" job credentials requirement into disagreeing with your bad and wrong views? Like seriously, I'm 25 and I make a decent living because I did my ms in a field that was lucrative so I understand it's theoretically possible to get into the right field at the right time but that doesn't change super high unemployment rates for recent graduates and more debt than they know what to do with. Yeah you can get through the system fine, but statistically a lot of people are getting really boned by it. When it becomes as big of a problem as it is now you really can't just try to blame individuals anymore. his whole gimmick is snooty elitist HR director it's pretty tired although there's an electrician's apprenticeship program in SD right now that starts at $14 and ramps up to full union pay for a journeyman the closer you get to graduating the program. Seems cool.
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Moridin920 posted:his whole gimmick is snooty elitist HR director I know it bothers you, but realtalk: I actually am an HR Director.
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May 31, 2014 00:54
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:I know it bothers you, but realtalk: that doesn't make your elitist ravings any less of a tired gimmick
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May 31, 2014 00:54
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Moridin920 posted:that doesn't make your elitist ravings any less of a tired gimmick Those just bother you because they are accurate. The reason you don't see capitalism parades is because every day is a capitalism parade.
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:Those just bother you because they are accurate. The reason you don't see capitalism parades is because every day is a capitalism parade. the fundamental feature of capitalism is parasitism
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