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Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Can somebody post a good summary of this mess or something? I have a lot of popcorn, but not 10 hours of time to sift through the chaos.

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Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Mirificus posted:

The first hearing for the case against The Untold History of Japanese Game Developers writer is supposed to be on June 12th. The plaintiffs have posted a "Pretrial Message" on their website:

Does anywhere have a summary of what this all about?

Fruitsnacks
Oct 28, 2007
Another entry on their blog summarizes things: http://versusjs.blogspot.ca/2014/04/joint-statement-regarding-criminal-case.html

Apparently the guy actually managed to put together and ship his DVD but I wonder how it turned out.

Great Rumbler
Jan 30, 2013

For I am a dog, you see.
I have my doubts about whether either group has effectively made the jump to adulthood.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Great Rumbler posted:

I have my doubts about whether either group has effectively made the jump to adulthood.

I wouldn't put much stock in any side of the equation at this point but if I had to choose I'd go with the side that hasn't written 5000+ word blog posts about how mentally unbalanced everybody on other side is.

DoctorTristan
Mar 11, 2006

I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave, like this. Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?

Mirificus posted:

The first hearing for the case against The Untold History of Japanese Game Developers writer is supposed to be on June 12th. The plaintiffs have posted a "Pretrial Message" on their website:

Isn't this exactly the sort of thing that lawyers tell their clients not to do?

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

DoctorTristan posted:

Isn't this exactly the sort of thing that lawyers tell their clients not to do?

it is the exact thing a good one would say not to do.

Delusibeta
Aug 7, 2013

Let's ride together.

Drifter posted:

it is the exact thing a good one would say not to do.

Oh boy. :munch:

Then again, this whole brouhaha has been prime :munch: material. They were made for each other, they're all massive babies.

Great Rumbler
Jan 30, 2013

For I am a dog, you see.
This part of their message really stands out to me:

quote:

If Agness never gets another contract in the games industry — an industry littered with childish behaviour — she can always move on to less stressful things. And if I never see another dime of venture funding, I can always do contract work. We will be just fine.

I just really can't figure out what possessed them to write something like that.

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Great Rumbler posted:

This part of their message really stands out to me:


I just really can't figure out what possessed them to write something like that.

Everyone involved seems like they have problems but everything this guy writes just drips with victimhood. It's really offputting. I hope everyone loses this case.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Kibayasu posted:

I wouldn't put much stock in any side of the equation at this point but if I had to choose I'd go with the side that hasn't written 5000+ word blog posts about how mentally unbalanced everybody on other side is.

So, neither side.

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

:toot: RIP ZEEZ :toot:

Drifter posted:

it is the exact thing a good one would say not to do.

They were probably worried that him being the sole voice in the public discourse would be damaging even if they won the trial.

It's pretty easy for someone's reputation to be ruined regardless of how a trial goes.

That said, this dude is clearly insane and is already doing enough to undermine himself and they could probably just let him self-destruct... I don't know that there's any good way to engage.

E: And they don't seem to be helping themselves much either....

Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:
Did someone post his rebuttal yet, with email excerpts and all that jazz? Good stuff.

I would but I'm on my phone.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
Can we just make a Kickstarter drama thread in YCS or something because this entire situation is so /facepalm

Kenshin fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jun 10, 2014

Shalinor
Jun 10, 2002

Can I buy you a rootbeer?

Kenshin posted:

Can we just make a Kickstarter drama thread in YCS or something?
Quiet you, my popcorn just finished popping :munch:

(it would be nice if someone had actual Kickstarter news, though - all the ones I was following finished)

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

foutre posted:

That said, this dude is clearly insane and is already doing enough to undermine himself and they could probably just let him self-destruct... I don't know that there's any good way to engage.

E: And they don't seem to be helping themselves much either....

If they are actually harassing random people loosely involved with the project they are just as bad as him if not worse.

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

:toot: RIP ZEEZ :toot:

IShallRiseAgain posted:

If they are actually harassing random people loosely involved with the project they are just as bad as him if not worse.

Yeah, they said something about negligence charges? I don't know what exactly that entails but that's pretty hosed up...

My favorite bit though was that he self-describes as "allergic to wifi".

Pavlov
Oct 21, 2012

I've long been fascinated with how the alt-right develops elaborate and obscure dog whistles to try to communicate their meaning without having to say it out loud
Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that
HomeMake looks pretty cool. Kind of surreal.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Pavlov posted:

HomeMake looks pretty cool. Kind of surreal.

Risks and challenges: there may not be enough lsd in the world to allow us to fully express our vision.

G-Mawwwwwww
Jan 31, 2003

My LPth are Hot Garbage
Biscuit Hider
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/emberstorm/black-cats-story-an-off-the-wall-humor-filled-adve?ref=discovery

Black Cat is an abomination and I kind of want to make it happen to see how awful it is.

I'm likely going to throw it money just to put a friend in the game and have him do humiliating things and be immortalized in this game forever because it's terrible.

Pavlov
Oct 21, 2012

I've long been fascinated with how the alt-right develops elaborate and obscure dog whistles to try to communicate their meaning without having to say it out loud
Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that

CaptainScraps posted:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/emberstorm/black-cats-story-an-off-the-wall-humor-filled-adve?ref=discovery

Black Cat is an abomination and I kind of want to make it happen to see how awful it is.

I'm likely going to throw it money just to put a friend in the game and have him do humiliating things and be immortalized in this game forever because it's terrible.

What the ever loving gently caress am I looking at.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch
Gooby pls (back this Kickstarter)

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good

IShallRiseAgain posted:

If they are actually harassing random people loosely involved with the project they are just as bad as him if not worse.

My favorite part is them saying they may bring charges against the backers as well. Good luck with that!

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

Tiny animals under glass... Smaller than sand...


CaptainScraps posted:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/emberstorm/black-cats-story-an-off-the-wall-humor-filled-adve?ref=discovery

Black Cat is an abomination and I kind of want to make it happen to see how awful it is.

I'm likely going to throw it money just to put a friend in the game and have him do humiliating things and be immortalized in this game forever because it's terrible.
This sounds like an untapped Kickstarter market. Sort of like how Bad Rats has to have sold hundreds of thousands of copies by now just from people prank gifting it to each other.

No Gravitas
Jun 12, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Spazzle posted:

Risks and challenges: there may not be enough lsd in the world to allow us to fully express our vision.

Between Tangiers and Yume Nikki, I think it has been proven that a finite amount of acid can express an infinite amount of crazy. In fact, with acid it is probably easier to do infinities over finite quantities.

EDIT: Actual R&C says they are architects. We are going to get a game with a shitload of buildings.

senrath
Nov 4, 2009

Look Professor, a destruct switch!


Shalinor posted:

Quiet you, my popcorn just finished popping :munch:

(it would be nice if someone had actual Kickstarter news, though - all the ones I was following finished)

In actual Kickstarter news, Massive Chalice will be releasing on the Xbox One as a console exclusive sometime after the PC release. Naturally, this has lead to many idiots commenting on how betrayed they are that the PC game they backed won't be coming to either the PS4 or Wii U.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Is it still much much easier to port a PC game to XBox than the other two or is that no longer applicable this generation. (Just curious)

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch
By all accounts the PS4 is the easiest to port to but it and the XBone are similar in architecture.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Well I think it's meant to be a lot easier to port a DirectX engine to XBone but come to think of it I doubt that's all that relevant here; there'll be an OGL version for Mac and I suspect they'll probably be building on a preexisting engine anyway. I'm sure it's just Microsoft paying them.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Jun 10, 2014

Focacciasaurus_Rex
Dec 13, 2010

No Gravitas posted:

Between Tangiers and Yume Nikki, I think it has been proven that a finite amount of acid can express an infinite amount of crazy. In fact, with acid it is probably easier to do infinities over finite quantities.

EDIT: Actual R&C says they are architects. We are going to get a game with a shitload of buildings.

When you say Tangiers, for a while I thought you were making some kind of political statement about the geographical location. But you mean there's a weird-rear end game with the same name, don't you?

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

Focacciasaurus_Rex posted:

When you say Tangiers, for a while I thought you were making some kind of political statement about the geographical location. But you mean there's a weird-rear end game with the same name, don't you?
Yes, it has been posted in this thread a few times. It got Kickstarted a while back and looks to be shaping up nicely.

lizzyinthesky
Mar 24, 2010

Take drugs! Kill a bear!
4 days left on SuperHOT and they're at 200 percent of their goal, with only two stretch goals remaining (NewGame+ and a level editor, which would be pretty cool to have). Glad to see this doing well, the demo is just too strong.

SaltyJesus
Jun 2, 2011

Arf!

Pavlov posted:

HomeMake looks pretty cool. Kind of surreal.

This is really inspired. Shame it had such a weak start, I'd play the poo poo out of it. I hope their backing rate increases at some point.

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

There's a new visual novel translation taking place. The story seems to be about economics and it's written by the person who wrote Spice and Wolf, which is generally considered pretty good. Seems like it would be worth checking out if you're into that sort of thing. I couldn't find that much about it with a casual google, but thankfully there seems to be no evidence of any of the skeeviness that infects an awful lot of the genre. Just a boy, and the dreams of venture capitalism (on the moon).

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

The first episode of World End Economica already came out in English. The translation was initially a little rough but they did another pass on it and it's fine now. There's no pornographic or adult content in it or anything, so don't worry about that.

Pythagoras a trois
Feb 19, 2004

I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.
I'm getting really tired of these Mighty No 9 updates. It was a game where all the major programming hurdles were solved by '92, how much more creator-promotion spam do they intend to send out before they release the game?

elf help book
Aug 5, 2004

Though the battle might be endless, I will never give up

Cheekio posted:

I'm getting really tired of these Mighty No 9 updates. It was a game where all the major programming hurdles were solved by '92, how much more creator-promotion spam do they intend to send out before they release the game?

You can shut off notifications from them in your Kickstarter settings, and you probably don't have to worry about missing any really important news because it's such a high profile game.

Orzo
Sep 3, 2004

IT! IT is confusing! Say your goddamn pronouns!

Cheekio posted:

I'm getting really tired of these Mighty No 9 updates. It was a game where all the major programming hurdles were solved by '92
What is this even supposed to mean?

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

Orzo posted:

What is this even supposed to mean?

It means every single one of these emails is some incredibly minor status update or a "HEY GUYS VOTE ON THE NEXT <thing>!"

Come on dudes, you're making the game, decide yourself. It was cute at first with some of the villains or whatever but now it's just annoying.

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Orzo
Sep 3, 2004

IT! IT is confusing! Say your goddamn pronouns!
What does that have to do with programming hurdles that have supposedly been solved since 1992?

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