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Pinterest Mom posted:Last roundup of polls for the campaign: Lol Canadian polling.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:04
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theyre not even pretending to try anymore
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Jun 11, 2014 23:06
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that ipsos poll is online only lol
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Jun 11, 2014 23:08
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RBC posted:that ipsos poll is online only lol  online polls haven't performed particularly badly in Canada, either. Or, you know, no worse than phone ones, anyway.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:10
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I really don't understand how Ipsos and Ekos have such different results for their likely voter models. It's baffling.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:13
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Pinterest Mom posted:
im just going to make up my own poll out of my rear end and we'll see if im more accurate than at least 1 of those above lib 37 pc 32 ndp 19 seats lib 49 pc 39 ndp 19
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Jun 11, 2014 23:17
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sources are comfirming now that my poll is superior in every way
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Jun 11, 2014 23:27
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Helsing posted:Also if you're really pissed off by wasteful spending being used to preserve seats then you really shouldn't support Stephen Harper: That's not a great example wasteful spending. The items are actually being built and it's a reasonable assumption that the smaller communities that vote conservative are more likely to need financial assistance building rinks and pools than Toronto. It indicates that the money is being allocated based on need rather than just giving every riding the same amount and making them spend it all.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:28
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Pinterest Mom posted:Last roundup of polls for the campaign: Angus Reid OLP 36 PCPO 32 ONDP 26 Forum Research OLP 42 PCPO 35 ONDP 19
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Jun 11, 2014 23:33
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I actually think the polling as a whole indicates that support has firmed up for the Liberals, which is a bad sign for the PCs, but I'm no Eric Grenier so who knows
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Jun 11, 2014 23:35
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Apparently the Libertarian candidate in Thunder Bay ran a full page newspaper ad openly attacking First Nations. As best I can make out from the low resolution CBC picture, it says:quote:VOTERS: To be fair, though, when I think of groups in Canada that need to be taken down a peg, I think of our First Nations. What with all their poverty and missing women and historical mistreatment and all. They just need less handouts and more bootstraps, clearly. e: oh, also she used to be the PC candidate but got kicked out in February for making comments about First Nations.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:53
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oh oh, last Ispos Reid! June 7-11: Liberals: 33 per cent (-2) PCs: 31 per cent (-4) NDP: 30 per cent (+4) Other: 5 per cent (+1) hahaha looks like we've got every scenario covered then, eh? http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pcs-liberals-ndp-in-virtual-tie-on-eve-of-ontario-election-poll-1.1864045
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Jun 12, 2014 00:11
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This will be a hard Friday to wake up for.
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Jun 12, 2014 00:17
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brucio posted:oh oh, last Ispos Reid! June 7-11: Watch the Green Party win a majority.
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Jun 12, 2014 00:57
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Pinterest Mom posted:Last roundup of polls for the campaign: I can guarantee you that Grenier will claim the 30th successful prediction in a row for his 'model'.
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Jun 12, 2014 01:12
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The Globe and Mail was ready to endorse the Liberals but the Editor-in-Chief discarded his editorial board's decision in order to endorse the Conservatives instead. http://canadalandshow.com/article/source-globe-editorial-board-endorsed-wynne-liberals-was-overruled
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Jun 12, 2014 01:54
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Am I the only one thinks that news outlets shouldn't be allowed to endorse any particular party?
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Jun 12, 2014 02:04
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Lobok posted:The Globe and Mail was ready to endorse the Liberals but the Editor-in-Chief discarded his editorial board's decision in order to endorse the Conservatives instead. $5 says the same kind of thing happened at the Citizen. Kate Heartfield would sooner endorse a drunk moose than Hudak. Potter overruled them.
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Jun 12, 2014 02:09
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Lobok posted:The Globe and Mail was ready to endorse the Liberals but the Editor-in-Chief discarded his editorial board's decision in order to endorse the Conservatives instead. Everyone at my partner's work thought that this might be the case after the endorsement announcement was delayed an hour or two.
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Jun 12, 2014 02:28
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yellowcar posted:Am I the only one thinks that news outlets shouldn't be allowed to endorse any particular party? It's not really "news outlets" it's the billionaires that control them. As we know the political opinions of billionaires are more important than ours.
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Jun 12, 2014 03:00
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vyelkin posted:Apparently the Libertarian candidate in Thunder Bay ran a full page newspaper ad openly attacking First Nations. As best I can make out from the low resolution CBC picture, it says: The data I've seen indicate that the government spends less money per capita on First Nations than on other Canadians. For instance, this idiotic article seems to indicate that First Nations are getting $9868 per person ($9056 federal and $812 provincial) while the average Canadian (incl. First Nations) got $16801 per person ($7316 federal and $9205 provincial). How you can look at those numbers and then write an article headlined "Taxpayers Have Been Overly Generous to First Nations" is baffling. It just goes to show that while people like to use numbers to prove their points, they often lack the numeracy needed to understand those numbers. ...and now I'm waiting for somebody to point out that I've misunderstood the numbers in the article.
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Jun 12, 2014 03:31
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Jimbozig posted:The data I've seen indicate that the government spends less money per capita on First Nations than on other Canadians. No, you're more or less correct. It's an established fact that First Nations get less money per person than other Canadians. I'm impressed that that guy was dumb enough to put the provincial numbers in his article since they directly contradict his point. Most articles on this subject say "First Nations are taking too much money, they get $10k per person from the government and that should be enough" without even mentioning how much money is spent per person in all of Canada. At least that particular article is just wrong, not actively deceptive.
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Jun 12, 2014 07:00
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Jimbozig posted:For instance, this idiotic article seems to indicate that First Nations are getting $9868 per person ($9056 federal and $812 provincial) while the average Canadian (incl. First Nations) got $16801 per person ($7316 federal and $9205 provincial). How you can look at those numbers and then write an article headlined "Taxpayers Have Been Overly Generous to First Nations" is baffling. It just goes to show that while people like to use numbers to prove their points, they often lack the numeracy needed to understand those numbers. quote:Provincially, data was more difficult to find but from the mid-1990s forward, here is what the numbers show: in 2012, the 10 provinces combined spent $812 per First Nations person, up 985 per cent from $75 per First Nations person in 1994. It's almost like he started with a lovely thesis and then decided to double down instead of quitting when the numbers clearly dismantled his point. Politics in a nutshell, basically.
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Jun 12, 2014 07:01
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Heavy neutrino posted:It's almost like he started with a lovely thesis and then decided to double down instead of quitting when the numbers clearly dismantled his point. Politics in a nutshell, basically. You just don't understand the argument he is making. He doesn't care that the average Canadian has more spent on them; any amount spent on first nations is a waste of tax payer dollars. The only money that should be spent is on walls around the reservations so that their movements can be controlled like Palestinians. We gave them those great reserves they should forage like their traditional culture demands. Rutibex fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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Jun 12, 2014 09:05
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Election-watchers should keep an eye on turnout in Welland and St. Catharines. We had just torrential rain, and the storm sewer backed up into my basement around 12:30 (thankfully it's unfinished). if that happened on more than just my street I wouldn't be surprised to see potential voters stay home dealing with soggy basements. I doubt it would impact the outcome much, since voting preference isn't much of a predictor of flooding, but if it's fairly widespread we could see that reflected in the turnout.
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Jun 12, 2014 09:17
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My polling station was set up in my building's gym*, so I got to vote on my way to work! *two treadmills, an elliptical, an exercycle, one of those weight stations, and lots of gym mats
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Jun 12, 2014 14:53
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For those like me knocking on doors today, remember if nothing else, it's exercise.
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Jun 12, 2014 14:56
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bunnyofdoom posted:For those like me knocking on doors today, remember if nothing else, it's exercise. Ugh, have fun in the rain, man. 
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Jun 12, 2014 15:05
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Last e-day I did, I literally couldn't walk the next day. It was gross. Have fun declining your ballots today, Ontarians  .
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Jun 12, 2014 15:20
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Ugh, have fun in the rain, man. I got an umbrella and a waterproof coat. And a hip flask of bourbon to keep me warm.
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Jun 12, 2014 15:31
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I got my voters card today. It came in the mail just after I left to vote.
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Jun 12, 2014 16:41
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Does HuffPo imprison anyone else on their site when using a smartphone? My iPhone's browser buttons disappear on that site. Also have fun out there everyone and vote!
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Jun 12, 2014 17:22
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I went to vote about 11:30 on Roncy and there was no one there except the poll workers. It felt very ominous in regards to today's voter turnout.  e: I mean there were problably 8 different polls there and not another soul voting. Not on the way in, not on the way out.
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Jun 12, 2014 17:25
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It's the middle of a workday. In the evening, that's when people will really show up.
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Jun 12, 2014 17:27
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:It's the middle of a workday. In the evening, that's when people will really show up. There's a million people out of work in this province, dude.
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Jun 12, 2014 17:42
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Yeah, but they're not all in his riding, let alone going to his polling station. 
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Jun 12, 2014 17:43
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There was a Special Needs party I never even heard of before.
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Jun 12, 2014 17:45
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eXXon posted:There's a million people out of work in this province, dude. Half a million actually. http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/lfss01b-eng.htm
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Jun 12, 2014 17:45
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Rynder posted:There was a Special Needs party I never even heard of before. I was pleased to discover that my riding had 10 candidates, including ones for the "Vegan Environmentalist Party" and for "The People."
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Jun 12, 2014 17:47
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Goosed it. posted:Half a million actually. Pretty sure that was a joke about how Tim Hudak doesn't know anything about his own platform.
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Jun 12, 2014 17:50
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