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Dan Didio posted:What was the old two-player brawler game where you were beating down thugs and then, at the end, either player could accept the bad guy's offer and then you had to fight each other? That was baller. More games should do that. Streets of Rage on Sega Genesis had that option, I might be wrong on the number though because it's been so long. Black guy, white guy, and white girl for player characters. I remember it because I use to play it with friends aaaall the time back then, it was our favorite game. And every time, we'd get to the end and someone accept the offer and it'd become a death match. Cleatcleat fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Jun 28, 2014 |
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it was the first Streets of Rage, of course if you were just playing single-player then all you have to do is accept the final boss' proposal and, welp, you're the right hand to the city's mob boss 
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The reason the Jade Empire "give up and die" is less dumb than the ME3 give up and die is solely because the plot of Jade Empire is better constructed than starchild, I thought that was the obvious conclusion but well, my mistake. no it's not a good option, it's just not as spitefully dumb as the ME3 EC option. Remember, that was added in after the fact - I really feel like it's a middle finger to the playerbase. The JE one was in the game from the start and was sort of like a neat easter egg. obv the only way to roll is Open Palm and bring Dawn Star to the final battle geez what are you people. Psion fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Jun 28, 2014 |
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Jun 28, 2014 06:43
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Tirranek posted:What if with all the stranded fleets, Earth ceased to be a human world but ended up being the core of the new galaxy once everything settled down? Sure it's potentially pretty drat grim, but it could have been interesting. There's the issue of certain races not being able to eat the same foods, and so not having enough of their food to survive long distance travel without the relays, or to figure out a way to grow it on the now wrecked earth.
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Psion posted:no it's not a good option, it's just not as spitefully dumb as the ME3 EC option. Remember, that was added in after the fact - I really feel like it's a middle finger to the playerbase. The JE one was in the game from the start and was sort of like a neat easter egg. Jade Empire also had a gay romance option and a kinky menage trois option, so even though Mass Effect basically tried by ME2 to sell itself as a dating sim Jade Empire was better.
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Jun 28, 2014 10:02
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Barlow posted:Jade Empire also had a gay romance option and a kinky menage trois option, so even though Mass Effect basically tried by ME2 to sell itself as a dating sim Jade Empire was better.  So yeah. That was weird.
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Jun 28, 2014 10:21
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No way was I going to just let the villain get away with what he did to my character in Jade Empire. Better let the starchild murder them all.
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Jun 28, 2014 10:38
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Original, relay-exploding Destroy is the best ending because it means Aria and Omega get wiped out by a double relay explosion. Just to be sure. 
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Jun 28, 2014 10:45
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Sentinel Red posted:Original, relay-exploding Destroy is the best ending because it means Aria and Omega get wiped out by a double relay explosion. Just to be sure. Shepard stares into the void as the relays are vaporized, her job finally done. As her life fades, a lone voice echoes in her mind. "Don't. gently caress. With Aria." Too late. 
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Jun 28, 2014 11:38
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Sentinel Red posted:Original, relay-exploding Destroy is the best ending because it means Aria and Omega get wiped out by a double relay explosion. Just to be sure. Aria is safe on the Citadel due to developer fiat. Thanks for getting Omega back for me, Shepard. Now I will run it from my couch on the Citadel.
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Jun 28, 2014 16:20
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Psion posted:The reason the Jade Empire "give up and die" is less dumb than the ME3 give up and die is solely because the plot of Jade Empire is better constructed than starchild, I thought that was the obvious conclusion but well, my mistake. Nah the Jade Empire one is literally just as retarded. You could convincingly argue that it's more retarded BECAUSE of the plot being overall more well constructed. For example, in Jade Empire you've literally already fought your way out of death once to stop this rear end in a top hat so rolling over and saying "Well shucks okay I guess I'll die in the name of your glorious regime" even after all that extra special deluxe makes no loving sense. Seriously why are we defending the dumbest thing in Jade Empire
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It's fine.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Seriously why are we defending the dumbest thing in Jade Empire I'd say at this point it's because you are really bad at getting it. One might even say you're ... oblivious 
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Psion posted:I'd say at this point it's because you are really bad at getting it. One might even say you're ... oblivious None of this really addresses the points I've made, so I'm gonna call a dodge a dodge. Also, you wearin' hella rose tinted glasses.
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Luminous Obscurity posted:Shepard stares into the void as the relays are vaporized, her job finally done. As her life fades, a lone voice echoes in her mind. 
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My Q-Face posted:Not quite as stupid as the option in Dragon Warrior, I think the first game to offer you such a choice at the end.
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Give up your quest and join me and we can rule the world together!
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Citadel is the canon epilogue anyeway. The series has to end with drunk Grunt mumbling in the shower or it's not worth it. Will you pick drat The Lettuce, Expose The Clowns, or have a high enough EMS for Fishdog Food Shack?
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LordHippoman posted:Citadel is the canon epilogue anyeway. The series has to end with drunk Grunt mumbling in the shower or it's not worth it. Actually, I was wondering about this. I went back and reloaded a character I beat the game with before getting the DLC, played the ending again and found myself at the Galaxy Map on the Normandy with DLC missions to play, after playing through the slideshow and all.  When are you supposed to play citadel?
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My Q-Face posted:Actually, I was wondering about this. I went back and reloaded a character I beat the game with before getting the DLC, played the ending again and found myself at the Galaxy Map on the Normandy with DLC missions to play, after playing through the slideshow and all. You have access to Citadel any time after the Cerberus coup. Technically the best time is right before the assault on Cerberus HQ, as you'll have your full party and cast of NPCs for the party. The actual best time is after you've finished the game so it washes away the taste of the ending.
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My Q-Face posted:Actually, I was wondering about this. I went back and reloaded a character I beat the game with before getting the DLC, played the ending again and found myself at the Galaxy Map on the Normandy with DLC missions to play, after playing through the slideshow and all. Citadel is supposed to be played after finishing the game, as it acts as a send-off to the series as a whole, but canonically takes place at an indeterminate point of time during the events of Mass Effect 3.
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My Q-Face posted:Not quite as stupid as the option in Dragon Warrior, I think the first game to offer you such a choice at the end. There's an option kind of like that in Star Control II, whenever you encounter the main bad guys. Ur-Quan: Surrender, puny human! It's too late for you, of course - you will have to be executed - but your crew can live and we will not take punitive action against your planet. You: Huh. Well. Fair enough. Ur-Quan: What? You: I surrender. GAME OVER
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My plan during the current steam sale was to pick up ME1 for cheap and do a trilogy playthrough in one go. I played the poo poo out of it on 360 when it first came out so playing it on PC was new and exciting. So heres just some thoughts I've had after finishing ME1 and moving onto ME2. I guess I don't remember the combat being that atrocious or maybe that I just had nothing to compare it to 7 years go but holy poo poo was it annoying. Really poorly implemented cover mechanic, powers on ridiculous cool downs, god drat inventory system and the planet exploring hoooooly poo poo. I played an adept because I'd never done a playthrough as one before and I forgot how OP singularity was so I didn't pick that up as early as I should have. I ended up dropping the difficulty to casual because the combat was just that frustrating. And you can duck! Why?! It was so weird to be able to do that AND have a cover mechanic. The story for me is still straight up best out of the 3 and the final section from Ilos to the citadel is easily one of my favourite gaming bits ever. It definitely touches more on the synthetics vs organics than I remember too, but it doesn't ram it in your face like 3 does. Wrex and Garrus were my brosquad the whole game except for Noveria where I brought along Liara so she could say bye to Benezia. Left Ash behind on Vermire because even though I thought she grows more as a character with the whole accepting aliens thing I couldn't stand what they did to her appearance in 3. Kaiden wasn't as annoying as I remember either even though he didn't grow as much as Ash. He also didn't look as greasy either. I realised that I actually liked driving the mako on the set location planets (vermire, noveria, ilos, that planet you find liara on, etc), its the random survey ones that loving suck. Vertical mountains everywhere. Just really unfun. I laughed hard when Saren showed up on his hover board. The conversations with him are a bit weird. The last conversation you have with him on the citadel comes across like Shepard and Saren are old buddies but they've only met once before. The fight against sovereignsaren was pretty annoying too. He just jumps all over the place and barely sits still. The conversation with Sovereign was cool even though he's just like "WE ARE MACHINES YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND". I started 2 and the combat is so much better. Like night and day. Its also nice to not fight Geth like 90% of the time. Gonna miss Wrex not being in my squad. Probably take Zaeed or Grunt instead. I'll do another guddamn post when I finish ME2.
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Pattonesque posted:Aria is safe on the Citadel due to developer fiat. You know, I just figured that everyone on the Citadel when endgame started ended up in the body piles you wade through to get to the conduit controls. Depressed the hell out of me in my first play-through. Second play-through I noticed that they insinuate that they are just the people ported up from the killing fields of Earth, so hurray, I guess Barla Vonn and Liarra's Father might still live. Still a depressing pile of bodies, but likely a pile of bodies belonging to people you don't know. remusclaw fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Jun 30, 2014 |
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Crouching is there so you can snipe more accurately while on the move. Crouching and quickscoping is actually doable and probably less frustrating than trying to contend with ME1's cover system.
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remusclaw posted:You know, I just figured that everyone on the Citadel when endgame started ended up in the body piles you wade through to get to the conduit controls. Depressed the hell out of me in my first play-through. Then again, why would they be bringing people up from Earth if they had people already on the Citadel just sitting around?
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2house2fly posted:Then again, why would they be bringing people up from Earth if they had people already on the Citadel just sitting around? gently caress if I know. That's what they seem to imply though. Edit: I think Shepard wonders out loud to Anderson as to whether they are creating another Reaper in there. remusclaw fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Jun 30, 2014 |
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Inverness posted:So I said I wanted to play a Reaper in ME4 right? Someone should make a Mass Effect game that's just like Desert Bus. You're a Reaper slowly floating through deep space on your way to the Milky Way. And you can make HONKing noises. But that's it.
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comatose posted:My plan during the current steam sale was to pick up ME1 for cheap and do a trilogy playthrough in one go. I played the poo poo out of it on 360 when it first came out so playing it on PC was new and exciting. So heres just some thoughts I've had after finishing ME1 and moving onto ME2. I started playing through these in june, and I actually found 2 a lot harder to play, possibly due to lots and lots of multiplayer from 3. You die if you try to be mobile in 2 the way you can be in 3 and even as a vanguard there are times where you have to sit in cover and plink away at people from across the screen. Once you get assault rifles though things get a lot easier.
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The easiest way to play ME1 is as a soldier. You can use all the weapons and there's very little that can stop at around mid-game. You can basically just straight up run at dudes shooting.
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Also there's zero advantage to doing planet exploration/item recovery. You can skip it entirely, and only go to a planet when a mission requires you to. I think there's maybe one achievement that requires it.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Still one of my favorite little details in Citadel: "I broke the first rule of Omega...in more ways than one."
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Fifty Three posted:I do not remember this at all but it's awesome. Who said that?  Only the best person to say it.
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Fifty Three posted:I do not remember this at all but it's awesome. Who said that? Mordin has the STG leave a datapad at your apartment post-party that contains some of his non-sciencey work. One bit is a noir-ish story that Patrick Weekes originally wrote on Twitter about Mordin being a detective on Omega and probably sleeping with Aria. Pattonesque fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Jun 30, 2014 |
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Oh my goodness.  I must've missed some of the datapads.
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Fifty Three posted:Oh my goodness. It's right next to your bed after you wake up post-party.
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so does this mean that Mordin will be at your party if you sabotage the cure with Wreav around instead? Actually, maybe a better question, how do you get Mordin to live? Wrex has to be dead and Eve as well?
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Aces High posted:so does this mean that Mordin will be at your party if you sabotage the cure with Wreav around instead? Actually, maybe a better question, how do you get Mordin to live? Wrex has to be dead and Eve as well? You have to have carried on Mordin's life work and hosed the Krogan in every conceivable way, but he still just disappears.
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Well he has to go into hiding after all. I actually thought Mordins death was well done from a storytelling standpoint and good closure on his story arc. Also his race doesn't live that long and in earlier convos he makes it pretty clear that he doesn't have much time left anyways. It was a lot less bullshit than Legions "quarian/geth peace" death at any rate. (Legion getting stabbed to death was actually absolutely fine, tho)
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Aces High posted:so does this mean that Mordin will be at your party if you sabotage the cure with Wreav around instead? Actually, maybe a better question, how do you get Mordin to live? Wrex has to be dead and Eve as well? I think the only place Mordin ever shows up if he lives is on Earth when you can call everyone up. And Mordin lives if Wrex is dead and you destroyed Maelon's work in ME2, which causes Eve to die (so you're 3/4 right).
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Rick posted:I started playing through these in june, and I actually found 2 a lot harder to play, possibly due to lots and lots of multiplayer from 3. You die if you try to be mobile in 2 the way you can be in 3 and even as a vanguard there are times where you have to sit in cover and plink away at people from across the screen. Once you get assault rifles though things get a lot easier. Yeah going into 2 I felt like I was playing 3 but it is still very different. The power cooldowns are still much longer than 3 and while the combos are there they feel a lot harder to pull off. Also the smg that you start with is horrible and I wish I had the hurricane or whatever it is from ME3.
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