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Amethyst posted:Holy poo poo. This is beyond the pale. Stay away from the comments, ghostery didn't seem to block these ones.
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Les Affaires posted:http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...0625-3asek.html i dont see any Australian Christians going off to fight with the Christian minority in Iraq, or setting up IEDs in the christian states in Burma
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The presser for that meeting was so embarrassing, Brandis couldn't remember the Imam who spoke after him's name and had to shuffle his papers for like 5 seconds to find out what it was. Sheikh..... Saleem?
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Good news, everybody. I listened to the radio again! Turns out Eric Abetz is still banging on about seasonal fruit picking as a solution to all of Tasmania's unemployment woes. He's even using data that suggests that unemployment welfare recipients have, on average, poorer physical and mental health to justify taking them off welfare for six months to pick fruit, as though the "dignity of work" will forever solve all of your ailments. I guess I'll stop taking my pills and tell my therapist to kill him are self, all I need is to pick fruit for probably less than minimum wage and none of the benefits proper employment would afford me. 
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Jul 2, 2014 03:24
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pretty sure the employment solution for tasmania is dentistry
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Jul 2, 2014 03:26
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Endman posted:Turns out Eric Abetz is still banging on about seasonal fruit picking as a solution to all of Tasmania's unemployment woes. It's winter, wouldn't 'seasonal fruit picking' not be an option right now even if it did work?
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Not even going to bother with the rest of the article, this is enoughquote:LNP executive president Bruce McIver says Queenslanders could "sleep better at night" knowing Mr Newman was premier. Liberal National Party executive president Bruce McIver has likened Premier Campbell Newman to a Batman-like protector of the state, ...
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Cleretic posted:It's winter, wouldn't 'seasonal fruit picking' not be an option right now even if it did work? I don't think it matters whatsoever. He knows perfectly well that fruit picking isn't going to magically get everyone gainful employment, but he knows that championing this magical option in the political narrative he's constructing will provide him with an excuse to further demonise the unemployed and build public support for further cuts to welfare and the establishment of work for the dole schemes. Australians already believe that if you don't take any job that's offered to you, no matter how degrading, you must not deserve welfare.
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Lid posted:Not even going to bother with the rest of the article, this is enough David Feeney, member for Batman and the current Shadow Minister for Justice would like to have a word with him.
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Jul 2, 2014 03:46
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It's IR reforms from another angle. If you cannot access welfare and need any job, then an employer can pay less and have shitter conditions and still have people begging to work. An employeer can pay less and have shitter conditions and employees cannot quit or complain as they cannot access welfare. They use fruit picking as their example, one of the most commonly known exploitive industries.
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Jul 2, 2014 03:59
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Cleretic posted:It's winter, wouldn't 'seasonal fruit picking' not be an option right now even if it did work? Tasmanian employment solution: 6 months fruit picking (2 hrs per week each for $5) 6 months on no-dole Average out the stats so that it looks like 20,000 unemployed are really 10,000 employed
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Endman posted:Good news, everybody. I listened to the radio again! You'll pick fruit and you'll be loving pleased about it. If you don't like it, move interstate to find work 
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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...0702-3b7li.html lol...
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FOR all the public outcry over the lack of fairness and equity in the budget, scarcely a word is uttered in defence of future generations. It seems today’s parents and grandparents care little for George Washington’s advice: “We should avoid ungenerously throwing upon posterity the burden that we ourselves should bear.” While this may sound uncharitable, baby boomers (those born between 1946 and 1964) and their cousins loudly resist any moves to crimp their lifestyle, content to leave it to future generations to pick up the tab. And pick it up they will. If the budget doesn’t pass, by the time today’s seven-year-olds get a vote they are likely to inherit nearly $700 billion in debt with a deficit of $25bn in today’s money, with no end in sight. That’s a far cry from no net debt and a 1 per cent gross domestic product surplus left to them at birth by the Howard government. When, in 2002, then treasurer Peter Costello released Australia’s first intergenerational report, we were given a clear insight into the challenges of an ageing population. He told us: “Australia is pretty much at the best point — the sweet spot — in the demographic transition, now.” He predicted: “After 2010, the dependency ratio — the ratio between children and older people of working age — is expected to increase more rapidly as baby boomers reach pension age.” How right he was. Since 2010, we have lost the equivalent of 200,000 mainly baby boomers, from the workforce. Another 250,000 are expected to retire between now and 2025. The impact of these retirements will be a growing headwind to future growth as it bears down on productivity. As Costello said: “Demography is destiny.” Armed with the intergenerational report, the Howard government set out to protect the interests of future generations by minimising the inevitable economic pressures it foresaw building beyond 2010. It cleared the national debt and established the Future Fund to meet the growing pension claims of public servants. Contemporary taxpayers were required to contribute their share of future liabilities. Costello was looking 40 years into the future and beyond the forward estimates. The Abbott government similarly is seized with the challenges posed by our demographics. Policies such as paid parental leave, the raising of the pensionable age to 70 for those under 50 and providing incentives for the employment of eligible workers over 50 are all directed at keeping as many people in the workforce as possible to boost productivity. In attempting to bring the budget into balance, the government is exercising a duty of care to future generations. But it is a lonely position. Unfortunately for the Abbott government, its policy options are limited. Gone is the budget surplus. Public debt stands at 30 per cent of GDP and is rising rapidly. Many of the Howard and Labor government concessions and supplements are no longer affordable. Demographic change is working against fiscal balance with escalating claims from an ageing population having to be met by a shrinking number of taxpayers in more uncertain economic times. Inaction means government spending outstripping revenue when our terms of trade are falling and are expected to fall for another decade. Our labour and energy costs are among the world’s highest; productivity growth is weak and our global competitiveness is sliding. It is clear that unless Australia takes stock of these developments, our fiscal situation must deteriorate further. Yet there is collective opposition to attempts to remedy this, and a refusal to pay as you go. By definition it will fall to future generations to shoulder the burden. Where is the fairness in that? By design or default, it is socially destructive to pit generations against each other. Take for example our 17 to 24-year-olds, 27 per cent of whom are not in full-time work or full-time study. Their poor education has left them exposed. Even those who seek part-time employment are likely to be denied because of unrealistic award structures. Inevitable feelings of alienation are what have led to the social unrest we have witnessed in Europe and Britain. In his Reflections on the Revolution in France, Edmund Burke wrote that the real social contract is the partnership between the generations, “not only between those who are living but between those who are living, those who are dead and those who are to be born”. The experience of the 17 to 24- year-olds suggests that contract is at risk. The young are outnumbered. Baby boomers already exceed the under-15s as a percentage of the population. Even assuming those voting for the first time would support fiscal balance — unlikely given the culture in which they have been raised — polls suggest they would be easily outvoted. So, without urgent action, future generations seem destined to become critical of a system that allowed the profligacy and selfishness of previous generations to limit their opportunities. With the present mix of macro and micro settings, our fiscal imbalances won’t fix themselves. We may pretend we’ll restore balance tomorrow when a “fairer” budget can be found, but realistically we know that day will never come because the longer we wait, the greater the sacrifices needed. And why not criticise the Coalition for being ham-fisted at selling the budget? It may be cynical but, if it derails the budget, as a political exercise it makes sense. The more the fiscal position deteriorates, the more the government will be blamed. While it may not be perfect, the Hockey budget is a sensible trade-off between recurrent spending and long-term investment and between structural balance and growth. It is also the only budget on the table. Much is riding on it passing. Not least, a harmonious society and the future prosperity and social mobility of our young. Nothing could be more equitable than that. Maurice Newman is chairman of the government’s Business Advisory Council. The views expressed here are his own.
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"The Baby Boomers have ruined everything! We must act now, by crushing the young and the poor, so that they may one day live in a society free of the debt racked up by their parents!" -The dumbest loving idiot alive
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I agreed with about the first 80% but then his solution for the problem of the older generations loving over the younger generations was to gently caress over the younger generations.
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Jul 2, 2014 04:17
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Endman posted:Australians already believe that if you don't take any job that's offered to you, no matter how degrading, you must not deserve welfare. Its the 'work for the fruit' programme. You aren't getting Newstart so you can get on a coach at 3am and get shipped off to pick fruit all day. It's an unpaid, voluntary job, but you are allowed to take home a few kilos of fruit at the end of the day. Also WORK EXPERIENCE, Dignity of life/work, physical activity is good for mental health etc. Someone get me on the phone with the LNP, I'm full of great ideas. What no, I don't want to work for free; why do you ask?
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Tokamak posted:Its the 'work for the fruit' programme. You aren't getting Newstart so you can get on a coach at 3am and get shipped off to pick fruit all day. It's an unpaid, voluntary job, but you are allowed to take home a few kilos of fruit at the end of the day. Oh hell yes I love slav-I mean uh the dignity of work where do I sign up?
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Jul 2, 2014 04:34
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Sanguine posted:Tasmanian employment solution: They aren't even committed to developing the fruit industry so the dole bludgers have something to pick: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-01/tas-wine-node/5563280
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gay picnic defence posted:They aren't even committed to developing the fruit industry so the dole bludgers have something to pick: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-01/tas-wine-node/5563280 If there's not enough work to go around, you get to hang out, take in the views and pick your nose. You can make it a game, where you substitute the tired workers with fresh ones to reach PEAK EFFICIENCY.
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i always found those stupid games for five year olds that are all like "make a burger" or "make a sushi" or "make a pizza" and serve it in as quick time as you can, to be pretty sinister we're basically teaching five year olds to be waitresses and maximise profits, and all the "add-ons" you can buy like a fan or paying staff higher are just so that they're more motivated and serve burgers faster, rather than the fact that you're a benevolent dictator
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Jul 2, 2014 04:44
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Teddy Tavern is an excellent video game and I won't hear a word against it, fucker
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gay picnic defence posted:They aren't even committed to developing the fruit industry so the dole bludgers have something to pick: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-01/tas-wine-node/5563280 Oh no, the fruit growers can't afford to pay their staff anymore. We better abolish that minimum wage.
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Jul 2, 2014 04:47
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Did somebody say work? Where do I sign up?!
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Bring your soul, plus 100 points of ID and meet the devil in your nearest 'shady warehouse district'.
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Anidav posted:Did somebody say work? Where do I sign up?!
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Anidav posted:Did somebody say work? Where do I sign up?! You can come in and work for a week. We'll pay you in dignity.
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Anidav posted:Did somebody say work? Where do I sign up?! I'll pay you to clean my apartment once a week, you'll get $5 a week and you can live in my (unpowered) garage.
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quote:'It's obscene': Factory site illegally housed more than 15 foreigners
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If we’re honest, most of us would accept that a bad slumlord is a little bit like a bad father or a bad husband
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Costello was looking 40 years into the future when he sold assets and slashed taxes year in and out. We also need to slash the regulation that shielded us from the worst of the GFC because.........
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"We may have pretended to work but, and I feel this is important to point out, first, they pretended to pay us"
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Got the usual Liberal propaganda in the mail today, but it had a reasonably interesting article in it that's somewhat indicative of the suburb I live in: Be kinda interesting to see how many suburbs they'd actually run something like that in. Obviously his local polling has not been particularly good for the Libs on this.
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Murodese posted:Got the usual Liberal propaganda in the mail today, but it had a reasonably interesting article in it that's somewhat indicative of the suburb I live in: I got beaten up by riot police trying to stop refugees being sent to Yongah Hill 
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Jul 2, 2014 06:56
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Waaaah the Christians are out to get me
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Also is the ABC Fact Check ever going to stick to a reasonably simple scale or would that stop them from being able to weasel out of ever displaying something resembling a judgement
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Michael Safi's feed in general is a loving nightmare right now: https://twitter.com/safimichael
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Captain Pissweak posted:Michael Safi's feed in general is a loving nightmare right now: https://twitter.com/safimichael
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