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Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates

gleep gloop posted:

lmao they skipped over Kershaw? Was he seen as a risky prospect or something?

Kershaw was the 7th pick, and the 6th pitcher. The next two after him were Lincecum and Scherzer at #10 and #11. Drafting. :v:

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Jerome Agricola
Apr 11, 2010

Seriously,

who dat?

DeepDickPizza posted:

That mb mitt Brewers logo is legitimately one of the best logos ever for any sports franchise. Is there some reason they don't use that?

The official uniform rules state that "no pattern that imitates or suggests the shape of a baseball may be used on uniforms". Sucks.

Ammat The Ankh
Sep 7, 2010

Now, attempt to defeat me!
And I shall become a living legend!

Jerome Agricola posted:

The official uniform rules state that "no pattern that imitates or suggests the shape of a baseball may be used on uniforms". Sucks.

Why? God forbid someone knows these guys are baseball players?

Jerome Agricola
Apr 11, 2010

Seriously,

who dat?

Ammat The Ankh posted:

Why? God forbid someone knows these guys are baseball players?

It's got something to do with it possibly being distracting. Like, the players could confuse the logo for the actual ball. I swear it was something really, really stupid like that.

gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT

Ammat The Ankh posted:

Why? God forbid someone knows these guys are baseball players?

I think the reason is they worry about a team strategically placing baseballs on a pitcher's sleeve or something to mess with a hitter's ability to see the ball.

Mornacale posted:

Kershaw was the 7th pick, and the 6th pitcher. The next two after him were Lincecum and Scherzer at #10 and #11. Drafting. :v:

Oh. Guess I probably should have actually read up on that draft.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Jerome Agricola posted:

The official uniform rules state that "no pattern that imitates or suggests the shape of a baseball may be used on uniforms". Sucks.

This is not remotely true. They use it on their throwbacks, which is like every Friday home game and sometimes a bunch of other random days as well.

In 1994, the organization felt like celebrating their 25th anniversary by replacing one of the best logos in professional sports with one of the worst (seriously, look it up.) Roughly about this same time, they coincidentally (or causally?) became a terrible team for the next 10 years. Despite overwhelming fan support to return to the logo, the organization has indicated that it is trying to distance itself identity-wise from the 1982 Brewers (and not 'resting on their laurels' or some poo poo,) also despite the fact that that was the era when Brewers fans had the most to be excited about. This stupid team is constantly trying to reinvent itself and doesn't realize a good thing when they've got it.

It's the same reason why they ditched the giant beer barrel and chalet (even though it's sitting in some brewery's warehouse downtown) and instead opted for that yellow plastic pile of poo poo.

William T. Hornaday fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Jul 4, 2014

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     
http://webdesignledger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/logos_hidden_messages/milwaukee_brewers.jpg

i just realized it spells MB :aaaaa:

Jerome Agricola
Apr 11, 2010

Seriously,

who dat?

William T. Hornaday posted:

This is not remotely true. They use it on their throwbacks, which is like every Friday home game and sometimes a bunch of other random days as well.

Well, wikipedia says...

I've no idea why they are not using the good logo. Just going by something I heard (and then read on wikipedia).

E: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_uniforms
"This page has some issues"

E2: I don't read well.

"Notably, in apparent violation of this rule, several teams have used cap or jersey logos that have incorporated a baseball in their design, such as the Toronto Blue Jays, Philadelphia Phillies, Florida Marlins, Minnesota Twins,Milwaukee Brewers, New York Mets, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, San Francisco Giants, and the New York Yankees. However, in each of these cases, the baseball element of each logo is either obscured by another logo element, or rendered so small as not to be confused with an actual baseball."

Jerome Agricola fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Jul 4, 2014

Benjamin Disraeli
Oct 19, 2005

Let's have some fun
This beat is sick
Let's play a Love game!

William T. Hornaday posted:

This is not remotely true. They use it on their throwbacks, which is like every Friday home game and sometimes a bunch of other random days as well.

In 1994, the organization felt like celebrating their 25th anniversary by replacing one of the best logos in professional sports with one of the worst (seriously, look it up.) Roughly about this same time, they coincidentally (or causally?) became a terrible team for the next 10 years. Despite overwhelming fan support to return to the logo, the organization has indicated that it is trying to distance itself identity-wise from the 1982 Brewers (and not 'resting on their laurels' or some poo poo,) also despite the fact that that was the era when Brewers fans had the most to be excited about. This stupid team is constantly trying to reinvent itself and doesn't realize a good thing when they've got it.

It's the same reason why they ditched the giant beer barrel and chalet (even though it's sitting in some brewery's warehouse downtown) and instead opted for that yellow plastic pile of poo poo.

Fun fact:

Had a friend whose not a huge baseball fan from out of town come to a game with us earlier this summer go to a game with us. After tailgating for three hours and about 4 innings into the game he, unprompted by anything I said, said "wait, why are all those shirts and jerseys the fans are wearing not the same as what the team is wearing?"

Sadly they don't even wear them every Friday :mad: At least when they do it looks awesome and they match the fans.

Badfinger
Dec 16, 2004

Timeouts?!

We'll take care of that.

will_colorado posted:

Watching the Rockies is like taking a big bite of a sandwich and expecting mayo and getting a big helping of miracle whip instead. :barf:

Watching the Phillies is like expecting mayo and getting mayo.

The analogy here is that mayo is the worst, like the Phillies.

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

:kimchi: Tater Love :kimchi:
CC Sabathia had swelling in his knee this morning, and is seeing Dr. James Andrews for a follow-up. Olney just tweeted that he might need microfracture surgery "with an uncertain pitching future."

:rip:

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




William T. Hornaday posted:

This is not remotely true. They use it on their throwbacks, which is like every Friday home game and sometimes a bunch of other random days as well.

In 1994, the organization felt like celebrating their 25th anniversary by replacing one of the best logos in professional sports with one of the worst (seriously, look it up.) Roughly about this same time, they coincidentally (or causally?) became a terrible team for the next 10 years. Despite overwhelming fan support to return to the logo, the organization has indicated that it is trying to distance itself identity-wise from the 1982 Brewers (and not 'resting on their laurels' or some poo poo,) also despite the fact that that was the era when Brewers fans had the most to be excited about. This stupid team is constantly trying to reinvent itself and doesn't realize a good thing when they've got it.

It's the same reason why they ditched the giant beer barrel and chalet (even though it's sitting in some brewery's warehouse downtown) and instead opted for that yellow plastic pile of poo poo.

If there's any glimmer of hope, it's that sometimes teams do give up and go back to their old stuff. The Twins finally gave up and went back to their TC cap design, which is infinitely better than that stupid loving m with the swoosh under it they used.

And yes, I agree 100% with the chalet. Also Bernie Brewer was a lot cooler when it was a real person.

Amphion
Jun 10, 2012

All we know is... he's called The Stig.

Wow his 2017 option vests if he doesn't end 2016 on the DL with a shoulder injury, doesn't say anything about the knee :v: Hopefully he'll be fixed by then though.

The broken bones
Jan 3, 2008

Out beyond winning and losing, there is a field.

I will meet you there.

gleep gloop posted:

I think the reason is they worry about a team strategically placing baseballs on a pitcher's sleeve or something to mess with a hitter's ability to see the ball.


Oh. Guess I probably should have actually read up on that draft.

It's definitely one of the most amazing drafts. First 11 picks, three CY winners and one MVP. Most of them aren't even done with their primes. Most interesting part was that the Royals had fired Baird and hired Moore just before the draft, but Moore announced he wouldn't be available to make selections for the Royals in the draft.

Joe Pos had a really interesting piece on that draft for the Royals, I wonder if it's been lost since his website ate it.

angrygodofjebus
Aug 25, 2005

Drink it up and hunker down

R.D. Mangles posted:

It's the fourth of july, here's your Mike Olt update.

PA: 188
Hits: 25
Ding Shots: 11
Ding Shot to Hit Percentage: 44%
America: Motherfuckers


Jose Abreu has 79 hits. 44 are extra base hits (26 dingers), just 35 are singles.

Tony Phillips
Feb 9, 2006

The broken bones posted:

It's definitely one of the most amazing drafts. First 11 picks, three CY winners and one MVP.

It's an absolutely dumb lovely draft. Brandon Morrow, for Christ's sake.

Mugwump
Apr 13, 2004

I offered to pay $60 million for 5 years of this avatar but was turned down

William T. Hornaday posted:

This is not remotely true. They use it on their throwbacks, which is like every Friday home game and sometimes a bunch of other random days as well.

In 1994, the organization felt like celebrating their 25th anniversary by replacing one of the best logos in professional sports with one of the worst (seriously, look it up.) Roughly about this same time, they coincidentally (or causally?) became a terrible team for the next 10 years. Despite overwhelming fan support to return to the logo, the organization has indicated that it is trying to distance itself identity-wise from the 1982 Brewers (and not 'resting on their laurels' or some poo poo,) also despite the fact that that was the era when Brewers fans had the most to be excited about. This stupid team is constantly trying to reinvent itself and doesn't realize a good thing when they've got it.

It's the same reason why they ditched the giant beer barrel and chalet (even though it's sitting in some brewery's warehouse downtown) and instead opted for that yellow plastic pile of poo poo.

gently caress PED's, we need the senate to take on the real issues in baseball. lovely logos replacing great ones shall not stand. Orioles switched back to cartoon bird logo and immediately started winning, take a hint Milwaukee!

Moe_Rahn
Jun 1, 2006

I got a question
why they hatin' on me?
I ain't did nothin' to 'em
but count this money
and put my team on
got my whole clique stunnin'
boy wassup
yeeeeeaaaaaahhhh

The broken bones posted:

It's definitely one of the most amazing drafts. First 11 picks, three CY winners and one MVP. Most of them aren't even done with their primes. Most interesting part was that the Royals had fired Baird and hired Moore just before the draft, but Moore announced he wouldn't be available to make selections for the Royals in the draft.

Joe Pos had a really interesting piece on that draft for the Royals, I wonder if it's been lost since his website ate it.
I couldn't find a specific article about it, but I did manage to turn up The Royal Decade, Joe's 9500-word ode to futility that I presumed had been lost to the mists.

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

gleep gloop posted:

lmao they skipped over Kershaw? Was he seen as a risky prospect or something?

Kershaw had a full ride scholarship to Texas and was asking for ultra-mega bucks, iirc. That still doesn't excuse passing over the other guys.

Politicalrancor
Jan 29, 2008

What the gently caress is a Bill Rowell?

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Do you smell what The Mauk is cooking?

Politicalrancor posted:

What the gently caress is a Bill Rowell?

The guy who caused Mike Trout to fall to the 25th pick

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Corey Hart is off the DL, Cole Gillespie DFA'd, and Justin Smoak was optioned to AAA.

Goodbye Smoak. Somehow LoMo is better than you.

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

I wonder what it would take for the Rangers to get Smoak back at this point. I doubt he'll ever amount to anything, but at least it would add a vaguely interesting wrinkle to this horrible, horrible season if he was cheap enough.

Thesoro
Dec 6, 2005

YOU CANNOT LEARN
TO WHISTLE
You can have him in exchange for exactly one Darvish start. We'll give him back afterwards.

The broken bones
Jan 3, 2008

Out beyond winning and losing, there is a field.

I will meet you there.

Moe_Rahn posted:

I couldn't find a specific article about it, but I did manage to turn up The Royal Decade, Joe's 9500-word ode to futility that I presumed had been lost to the mists.

Yeah, this was peak Pos. And he does talk about that draft in there.

quote:

Finally Baird was fired, and the Royals hired Dayton Moore, probably the hottest GM prospect in baseball. And even THAT they screwed up. They hired Dayton Moore BEFORE the 2006 amateur draft, but Moore insisted that he could not start until AFTER the draft because it would not be fair to the Braves. It was a classy decision by Dayton … except that the Royals had the No. 1 pick in the 2006 draft. It was one of those critical moments for an organization. The No. 1 overall pick can make or break a team’s future. And the Royals went into that draft with no GM.

They spent that No. 1 pick on Luke Hochevar, a 22-year-old pitcher who had been pitching Independent League ball after agreeing and then refusing to sign with the Dodgers for $3 million. The pick shocked baseball people who had expected the Royals to take a big left-handed pitcher named Andrew Miller. Evan Longoria, Clayton Kershaw and Tim Lincecum went in the Top 10.

lol

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


YES! MLB, bless their hearts, put this on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owlfS4xk0wA

a rowdy mullet
Feb 12, 2009
Smoak is garbage, good loving riddance :byewhore:

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


TheIncredulousHulk posted:

I wonder what it would take for the Rangers to get Smoak back at this point. I doubt he'll ever amount to anything, but at least it would add a vaguely interesting wrinkle to this horrible, horrible season if he was cheap enough.

Are you interested in one slightly used Mike Olt?

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

Thesoro posted:

You can have him in exchange for exactly one Darvish start. We'll give him back afterwards.

Rangers would be overpaying a little bit but well, opportunity cost and all that.

R.D. Mangles posted:

Are you interested in one slightly used Mike Olt?

I actually would be, if only because hoping his vision or whatever magically unfucks itself is more interesting than watching 2014 Carlos Pena bat in the 3-hole.

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

OH. loving. GOODY.

quote:

Jhoulys Chacin has been transferred to the 60 day DL. He is expected to see several specialists about his shoulder. Fears are that he has some type of rotater cuff injury, and will likely need some type of rotater cuff surgery which would knock him out of most of the 2015 season.

gently caress ME. :suicide:

Monicro
Oct 21, 2010

And you could feel his features in the air
A wide smile and perfect hair
He had complete control of the rising tides
And a medicine bag hanging at his side

In the flowing blue world of the death-dealing physician
yeah this puts a big wrench in the rockies' contention window

Crimson Sox
Jan 16, 2008

Bromance
Lets get this started

Little Kenny posted:

#Cubs in serious talks with #Athletics on big trade, sources tell me and @jonmorosi. If completed, Hammel and/or Samardzija would go to A’s.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


WHAT THE gently caress ARE YOU DOING WHY WOULD YOU TRADE WITH BILLY BEANE

GoatSeeGuy
Dec 26, 2003

What if Jerome Walton made me a champion?


R.D. Mangles posted:

WHAT THE gently caress ARE YOU DOING WHY WOULD YOU TRADE WITH BILLY BEANE

Well yeah, this....but I also don't get it since after Addison Russell what else do the A's have? Not to get into chicken counting and all, but middle infield isn't exactly an organizational weak point at the moment, maybe some players off the 25 man roster as well?

I kinda wanna see a deal go through just to see how the package Beane would eventually get for just Samardzija would compare.



VVVVVVVVVVV- Yeah, this is why people still deal with Beane. Unlike the Astros, if he's looking to get real talent he'll also give it up.

GoatSeeGuy fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Jul 5, 2014

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

R.D. Mangles posted:

WHAT THE gently caress ARE YOU DOING WHY WOULD YOU TRADE WITH BILLY BEANE

The Rockies got CarGo in a deal for Holliday, it's not THAT bad, unless your GM is retarded.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

R.D. Mangles posted:

WHAT THE gently caress ARE YOU DOING WHY WOULD YOU TRADE WITH BILLY BEANE

I'm so scared. Hold me.

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
If the A's trade Russell for Samardizjiaj then Billy Beane is getting fleeced big time.

Monicro
Oct 21, 2010

And you could feel his features in the air
A wide smile and perfect hair
He had complete control of the rising tides
And a medicine bag hanging at his side

In the flowing blue world of the death-dealing physician

will_colorado posted:

unless your GM is retarded.

Haha

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

Trading for a Cubs pitcher at the deadline is a great idea and the A's should definitely do it.

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algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
N: Rays on like a 10-4 run.

v: Why do you do that thing where you hit the ball and win games only to then go and lose a bunch of games in a row?

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