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BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

Yeah this was a funny review. But hot drat, Spoony looks...uh...unhealthy? I haven't watched him since his big meltdown so...uh...like, wow, he looks like poo poo. I like the way they addressed the drama.

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e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Yeah this was a funny review. But hot drat, Spoony looks...uh...unhealthy? I haven't watched him since his big meltdown so...uh...like, wow, he looks like poo poo. I like the way they addressed the drama.

You should, I watched a few of his new videos recently and they are pretty entertaining. He tones his act way done. I mean, he still gets angry ´but it it much more obvious that it is a gimmick now.

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
I never watched Spoony's own stuff (don't really have much incentive really), but I do think he, NC, and Linkara work really well together. The Bloodrayne review was fun, and the old Alone in the Dark review was one of my favorite NC crossovers. I remember watching the movie by myself and being completely baffled about how bad it was.

cubs2084
Feb 2, 2009

How in the blue hell did I do that? Curse my clicking around here.

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

The Bloodrayne review was really good. Although, isn't weakness to water an old vampire trait?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Compendium posted:

I never watched Spoony's own stuff (don't really have much incentive really), but I do think he, NC, and Linkara work really well together. The Bloodrayne review was fun, and the old Alone in the Dark review was one of my favorite NC crossovers. I remember watching the movie by myself and being completely baffled about how bad it was.
Yeah all of the reviews that they have done together are pretty amazing.

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude

Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

The Bloodrayne review was really good. Although, isn't weakness to water an old vampire trait?

Vampires, and a lot of other supernatural creatures, can traditionally not cross flowing water, which I think stems from the believe that flowing water dispels magic in general. So, not really water in a barrel acts as acid.

e X fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jul 18, 2014

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook

Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

The Bloodrayne review was really good. Although, isn't weakness to water an old vampire trait?

I'm not aware of any vampire lore that they were ever weak to water, except maybe that can't cross running water.

Though keep in mind that anything you think of as a "vampire trait" tends to post-date Bram Stoker. Which isn't to say those traits weren't already part of some vampiric lore, but Dracula was largely a creature forged from various traits of folkloric vampire-like creatures in many different regions. Here's a pretty cool article that gives a rundown of the probable inspiration for a lot of Dracula's powers. In fact, while it's fun to mock, their rundown of the "Stephanie Meyer age of vampires" where you can "make up anything you want" is pretty much how it was until, like, Nosferatu got popular. (Granted this isn't vampire specific, that's pretty much true of all folklore. It's just like how we take certain traits of fantastic creatures as fact because of Tolkein).

Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Jul 18, 2014

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Compendium posted:

I never watched Spoony's own stuff (don't really have much incentive really), but I do think he, NC, and Linkara work really well together. The Bloodrayne review was fun, and the old Alone in the Dark review was one of my favorite NC crossovers. I remember watching the movie by myself and being completely baffled about how bad it was.
For Spoony I would genuinely recommend his early stuff, his Phantasmagoria II LP, SWAT 4, and Ripper LPs are great; I forget the cutoff point of where he got bad. Also Yor Hunter of the Future is another great review.

I kind of like his vlog like LP of the Terror Trax where you he's listening to the game and responding to ques.

Keromaru5
Dec 28, 2012

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That was a good article. I was all set to connect the running water thing to the symbolism Christianity sometimes ascribes to water, especially the tradition in Eastern Orthodoxy of blessing nearby rivers or lakes on Epiphany. Which means just about every river is potentially holy water.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Spoony's Final Fantasy reviews can be very enjoyable if you were a fan growing up but have since grown to realize how much that particular franchise sucks a bag of corn chips, just skip through the drag queen bits at the end of each one.

Also while he was definitely in a bad place for some of them I found his Ultima reviews very educational for someone who never grew up with them.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

mind the walrus posted:

Spoony's Final Fantasy reviews can be very enjoyable if you were a fan growing up but have since grown to realize how much that particular franchise sucks a bag of corn chips, just skip through the drag queen bits at the end of each one.

Also while he was definitely in a bad place for some of them I found his Ultima reviews very educational for someone who never grew up with them.

I really wanna play through Final Fantasy 6 again. It was my favorite growing up even though I never finished it.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

BigRed0427 posted:

I really wanna play through Final Fantasy 6 again. It was my favorite growing up even though I never finished it.

I must have started that game six separate times due to various factors and never even gotten halfway. It's easily the best of them that I've played but if we're being honest that's kind-of damning with faint praise. That's not to say that they're terrible, but they're well..... let's just say I don't quite see in them what other people seem to see in them (and I 100% Final Fantasy X back in the day).

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude
His Ultima retrospective is pretty great, especially the theme song he eventually got. I would skip the last one though, I think that fell right into his breakdown period, but in any case, he just gets way to angry at the game for it to be funny.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

mind the walrus posted:

I must have started that game six separate times due to various factors and never even gotten halfway. It's easily the best of them that I've played but if we're being honest that's kind-of damning with faint praise. That's not to say that they're terrible, but they're well..... let's just say I don't quite see in them what other people seem to see in them (and I 100% Final Fantasy X back in the day).

I think part of it is also as far as JRPGs go Final Fantasy was the best of the best during the SNES-PS1 era. I'm sure someone who knows a lot more about console gaming around that time could point to important titles but FF was considered the king. And then I guess that bar was eventually surpassed by other companies, both Japan and Western.

Final Fantasy then becomes more abut style and crazy character designs than story and gameplay, I wanna say around 11-12. With 13 though I could forgive and even defend the combat system and the one long corridor but for god sake, please tell me what the gently caress that story was about?

BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jul 18, 2014

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

BigRed0427 posted:

I think part of it is also as far as JRPGs go Final Fantasy, or anything Squaresoft put out, was the best of the best. Someone who knows a lot more about Video Games around the SNES-PSX era will have to fill in what else was out around that time. But Final Fantasy set the bar that was eventually surpassed by other games, JRPGs and Western RPGs (In terms of consuls at least)

Then around FF 11-12, the franchise became more about style and over the top character designs than gameplay or even story. I've seen Spoony's FF13 review. I still have no idea what the gently caress was going on in that game.

I was more referring to the fact that I just don't really "get" what makes JPRGs so endearing in the first place. Like I don't think they'e bad, but growing up they were synonymous with "video games as art" and I never really saw it. The stories/characters were all so poorly done to me, and I was one of those kids who had an embarrassing Dragonball Z obsession. Final Fantasy VI's is probably the best, but if that is the best then the bar is really low. They did tend to feature amazing graphics for the time and their world design didn't look like anything else out there (at the time), but combine the poor storytelling with (usually) clunky gameplay and I was just flummoxed, although that didn't stop me from buying a ton of them and ramming my head into the wall trying to break through.

I do agree with what you're saying about FFXI-XII to XIII though. I mean I may be hard on the older games for not being the paragons of excellence they're championed as, but holy gently caress did those games take a nosedive in quality.

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook
I've begun to wonder if it's not that JRPGs have bad stories, but rather a very foreign story structure. I'm not an expert on East Asian storytelling, but when I learned about Jo-Ha-Kyu it put a lot of JRPGs into perspective. The progression "of beginning, break, rapid" fits their stories very well, where they start of extremely boring, build up extremely slowly, and then suddenly there's a nonsense twist, followed by the plot resolving extremely quickly without any real extended denoument. That describes almost every JRPG I've ever played, and is practically a copy/paste of the description of that narrative structure from the Wikipedia page.

I mean, that's not a blanket pass for JRPGs. Some of them are still bad stories even taking that into account, but I do think it changes the perspective on some of them at least.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I honestly had no idea about Jo-Ha-Kyu and had never even thought to look such a thing up. Thank you very much Jsor it really does cast a lot of JRPG elements in a new light. It's definitely not a blanket pass, I still think most of them gently caress up even with that story structure applied, but it does help explain things.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
I found Spoony's FF reviews kinda dumb and flamebaity. I prefer his riffs and retrospectives.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

The Vosgian Beast posted:

I found Spoony's FF reviews kinda dumb and flamebaity. I prefer his riffs and retrospectives.

A lot of what spoon does is dumb and flamebaity. It's why he recently had the video telling people they just don't get Sharknado and that riffing it was really dumb. (Didn't he get into a bit of a twitter argument with the Rifftrax guys a while ago?) Then there was his addendum to his Spiderman 2 vlog where he spent an additional 40 minutes bitching at people AND his X-men vlog where he got on his knees right in front of the camera and explained in as condescending a manner as possible it's okay if analysis goes longer than the movie itself.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

e X posted:

His Ultima retrospective is pretty great, especially the theme song he eventually got. I would skip the last one though, I think that fell right into his breakdown period, but in any case, he just gets way to angry at the game for it to be funny.

Yeah, skip the Ascension videos and it's surprisingly solid and pretty good.

Hell, I'd say that even the recent Runes of Virtue videos were surprisingly good with the obvious exception of one needlessly stupid and long skit in the middle of the first one.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

The Vosgian Beast posted:

I found Spoony's FF reviews kinda dumb and flamebaity. I prefer his riffs and retrospectives.

Yeah, but I actually like the flamebaity bits of the Final Fantasy ones because they clearly come from the perspective of someone who grew up with them and knows how stupid the fans of it can be.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Dragonatrix posted:

Yeah, skip the Ascension videos and it's surprisingly solid and pretty good.

Hell, I'd say that even the recent Runes of Virtue videos were surprisingly good with the obvious exception of one needlessly stupid and long skit in the middle of the first one.

I thought the Silence of the Lambs references were good.

ZeeBoi
Jan 17, 2001

Look at all the internet that is happening near me as of Friday: http://conbravo.com/guests/

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRA2OrZTiwY

Jontron does a thing about bootleg Titanic games. I tell you what though, the second one actually looks kinda fun.

Writer Cath
Apr 1, 2007

Box. Flipped.
Plaster Town Cop
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/fbv/bmbe/44060-the-love-guru

Film Brain reviews the Love Guru.

Jesus, he takes a break from this show and comes back for this? No wonder he needed a little time. That somehow manages to seem worse than the commercials would indicate.

cubs2084
Feb 2, 2009

Writer Cath posted:

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/fbv/bmbe/44060-the-love-guru

Film Brain reviews the Love Guru.

Jesus, he takes a break from this show and comes back for this? No wonder he needed a little time. That somehow manages to seem worse than the commercials would indicate.

It's REALLY bad. I love Mike Myers, but frankly this deserved to be a career killer.

PiedPiper
Jan 1, 2014


I couldn't make it five minutes through this video. Does this Film Brain seriously talk like that the entire time? Christ, I'm not trying to offend him but if I were his dad, I'd consider it a chore to chat with him on a phone, much less in real life.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

PiedPiper posted:

I couldn't make it five minutes through this video. Does this Film Brain seriously talk like that the entire time? Christ, I'm not trying to offend him but if I were his dad, I'd consider it a chore to chat with him on a phone, much less in real life.

Does he still extend the last syllable of every sentaaaaance? Because that poo poo makes me lose my goddamned mind.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Does he still extend the last syllable of every sentaaaaance? Because that poo poo makes me lose my goddamned mind.

He does. 99.9% of the time someones voice doesn't bother me but gently caress me I hate the way he talks.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

I like Film Brain, but... yeah. When Nintendo announced Nintendo TVii, I thought it sounded like “Nintendo TV, pronounced by Film Brain".

Keromaru5
Dec 28, 2012

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Good lord... Ben Kingsley, why?

I'm starting to think he's like Christopher Walken, and just accepts whatever script he's given.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

Keromaru5 posted:

Good lord... Ben Kingsley, why?

IIRC, Ben Kingsley did it because he'd never played a vampire before, and thought it would be fun. That was literally his entire reason for doing it.

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

I guess Film Brain's voice doesn't bother me, because I think his videos are usually great.

Bad Wolf
Apr 7, 2007
Without evil there could be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometime !

DStecks posted:

IIRC, Ben Kingsley did it because he'd never played a vampire before, and thought it would be fun. That was literally his entire reason for doing it.

He meant Ben Kinglsey playing the cross-eyed guru in the Love Guru there chief. It has not been a good week for Sir Ben Kingsley.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

The Vosgian Beast posted:

I found Spoony's FF reviews kinda dumb and flamebaity. I prefer his riffs and retrospectives.

I can't talk for his new content as I haven't been following him since 2012 but "Let's Riff on Ripper" is a goddamn treasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mWhyhyUQmk

Keromaru5
Dec 28, 2012

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Bad Wolf posted:

He meant Ben Kinglsey playing the cross-eyed guru in the Love Guru there chief. It has not been a good week for Sir Ben Kingsley.

I meant both, actually. Not a good week at all.

Bad Wolf
Apr 7, 2007
Without evil there could be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometime !

Keromaru5 posted:

I meant both, actually. Not a good week at all.

That'll teach me to be smug. You know, when you see actors in these roles, I'm always reminded of two quotes (that may or may not have been said). First, by Laurence Olivier when he was asked why he had appeared in a horrible film "Money, dear boy!" And Michael Caine, on Jaws 4 : “I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific.”

Let's be honest, if somebody were to offer me a million dollars, I'd appear in The Room 2 : Revenge of Johnny's ghost. Hell, for two million, I'd do the porno version.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Does he still extend the last syllable of every sentaaaaance? Because that poo poo makes me lose my goddamned mind.

That gets me too. I like Matt Buck when he's out of character, but as Film Brain, the way he talks makes everything he says seem so pedantic.

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Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
I find his prolonged eye rolling more annoying, personally. His projector reviews he does a whole lot less syllable drawing out and eye rolling, which makes them much more enjoyable to watch/listen to.

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