merk posted:Yeah, I'm voting Juanito until he or I is removed from the game. See you in a few days. This doesn't seem to be an argument in good faith. I don't care for it. Poque posted:I don't know if that's scummy. stupid, sure, but not necessarily scummy This seems like a more accurate assessment of Juanito's partnerclaiming.
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Pander posted:It's like casually playing poorly on purpose.
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Jul 21, 2014 19:32
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Juanito posted:Pretty much. Do you really think I'm going to bother with OOT chat with Cpig? He shot his dayvig a few posts into D1. 
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Jul 21, 2014 19:32
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if you think he's town, why don't you want to talk with him OOT?
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Jul 21, 2014 19:34
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Once again, cpig gets the game rolling.
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Jul 21, 2014 19:34
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that is not an aggressive question, btw, I think I am not fundamentally understanding something
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Jul 21, 2014 19:34
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Also, ##vote merk Obviously scum
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Jul 21, 2014 19:34
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Poque posted:if you think he's town, why don't you want to talk with him OOT?
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Jul 21, 2014 19:35
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welp
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Jul 21, 2014 19:38
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CapitalistPig posted:Also, ##vote merk "Oh no, the super duo of Cpig/Juan masonry has been revealed, the game is over.  kill me or kill him" -merk
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Jul 21, 2014 19:38
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Juanito posted:I actually agree with this. merk pretends to be outraged because I revealed my masonry, as if he knows for a fact that this is a bad thing (which he doesn't-- unless he has information that I don't). You revealed your masonry as if you have information that it WON'T hurt in ways beyond "my partner's used his dayvig". Why would it matter that he's used his dayvig or not? Say he didn't. Why would revealing the masonry before that point be dangerous, but afterward it wouldn't? You seem to be making a LOT of assumptions here.
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Jul 21, 2014 19:41
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The thing for me is that a masonry is a place I like to bounce ideas off somebody knowing that they might not be fully-developed. If I have somebody I'm pretty sure is town, that's like best-case scenario for me since I can just throw out whatever without expecting them to try to twist it around.
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Jul 21, 2014 19:43
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Juanito posted:Because I'm not afraid of my mason partner anymore? I don't get it. I'm sure the warning in the OP is about revealing to the thread who your mason partner is. Pretty sure Cpig already knew he was your masonbro. Also I could have believed Peta was your masonbro before you confirmed it was cpig
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Jul 21, 2014 19:43
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Juanito posted:I actually agree with this. merk pretends to be outraged because I revealed my masonry, as if he knows for a fact that this is a bad thing (which he doesn't-- unless he has information that I don't). Hah I lied ##vote Juanito
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Jul 21, 2014 19:46
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Poque posted:The thing for me is that a masonry is a place I like to bounce ideas off somebody knowing that they might not be fully-developed. If I have somebody I'm pretty sure is town, that's like best-case scenario for me since I can just throw out whatever without expecting them to try to twist it around.
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Jul 21, 2014 19:47
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merk posted:Yeah, I'm voting Juanito until he or I is removed from the game. See you in a few days. Lame
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Jul 21, 2014 19:47
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CapitalistPig posted:Hah I lied Pig lied, people died.
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Jul 21, 2014 19:47
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Juanito posted:Have you ever bounced an idea off of Cpig? I'm only glad I didn't when he had the dayvig. I live in a dream world where I imagine Cpig is observant, loquacious and just an all-around great guy talking out of thread in a masonry/scumteam.
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Juanito: Either you are proposing that Opop is misleading us when he recommends against revealing masonries, or you have information that confirms there's no risk to you revealing it, or else you are simply playing in an anti-town manner (a quality which you're making GBS threads on your mason partner for having, ironically). Think about it. All masonries are unconfirmed, nobody knows their partner's role, so theoretically there's no apparent risk in revealing masonries. However, Opop advised against it. That is the information we have to act on. So what information do you have that I don't that says it's just fine to ignore the mod's advice? Also: Not a fan of preemptively dismissing a mason partner. It smacks of excuse-making to avoid putting yourself out there in private comms.
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Jul 21, 2014 19:52
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Hal Incandenza posted:I live in a dream world where I imagine Cpig is observant, loquacious and just an all-around great guy talking out of thread in a masonry/scumteam. 1 out of 3 ain't bad I guess.
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Jul 21, 2014 19:52
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Pander posted:Juanito: Either you are proposing that Opop is misleading us when he recommends against revealing masonries, or you have information that confirms there's no risk to you revealing it, or else you are simply playing in an anti-town manner (a quality which you're making GBS threads on your mason partner for having, ironically).
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Jul 21, 2014 19:54
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i remember ernie once saying how he wasn't actually that great of a social player and that the two players with a good social game on this site he could think of would be capps and cpig i am still insulted to this day
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Jul 21, 2014 19:54
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merk made fun of my mmr, might vote merk
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Jul 21, 2014 19:57
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mr.capps posted:i remember ernie once saying how he wasn't actually that great of a social player and that the two players with a good social game on this site he could think of would be capps and cpig lol ernie rules
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Jul 21, 2014 19:58
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Not really liking Merk's ultimatum/excusion from the thread. Juanito/CPig masonry drama is kinda useless at the moment. Would vote Merk.
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Jul 21, 2014 21:05
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I think that if merk isn't willing to play in good faith, that he is a detriment to this game. I don't think town would behave in such a fashion, especially not someone as experienced as merk. Even his argumentation on Juanito seems poorly formed, focused on a single point, and it seems unclear whether or not merk really thinks Juanito is scum. ##vote merk
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Jul 21, 2014 21:10
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GG y'all
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Jul 21, 2014 21:12
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Jul 21, 2014 21:13
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Peta posted:GG y'all  mason partnerhave fun doing good in the DR!
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Jul 21, 2014 21:13
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It was my first game with Peta in ages too... have fun in the DR, don't get malaria
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Juanito posted:sorry about my Your tone feels off. You're trying to mix an aggressive defense to merk's charges while acting all indifferent and casual. Why take the gamble, Juan? What did it gain you?
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Jul 21, 2014 21:34
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Pander posted:Your tone feels off. You're trying to mix an aggressive defense to merk's charges while acting all indifferent and casual.
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Jul 21, 2014 21:35
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Juanito posted:What did I lose from it? Other than fake outrage from merk and Pander? Nobody else really cares. I don't know, I'm getting a genuine vibe from Pander here. I think that's he's just easily outraged by things.
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Meinberg posted:I don't know, I'm getting a genuine vibe from Pander here. I think that's he's just easily outraged by things. I'm not outraged, I just don't get the point of a gambit from which he stands to gain absolutely nothing.
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Jul 21, 2014 22:28
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Juanito posted:I actually agree with this. merk pretends to be outraged because I revealed my masonry, as if he knows for a fact that this is a bad thing (which he doesn't-- unless he has information that I don't). There is no frustration, outrage, or any negative reaction to what you did emotionally for me. I think you're scum for it. It's that simple. When I made my vote, I just had an inkling that what you did was scummy. Your reactions, however, sealed the deal. You have completely disregarded what the Op says about not revealing masonry to try to justify your initial position. You reacted rather than tried to think about the situation critically. It looks fake. It looks like you're scum. Look at how it went down: Juanito posted:I can't complain, at least he didn't shoot his mason partner merk posted:Why claim this when the op says it's probably not wise to claim it? ##vote Juanito Juanito posted:Because I'm not afraid of my mason partner anymore? merk posted:Why would that be your only concern based on what the op says? Juanito posted:probably not I don't know how to do nested quotes for the last post. Read that in context. Look at his reaction to my initial vote. He has no idea why he outed his mason partner. There is no critical thought into what is happening. He's scrambling to try to explain away what he just did and my vote with it. That is how scum play. That is the fake content you would expect from a scum player.
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Jul 21, 2014 22:55
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Meinberg posted:This doesn't seem to be an argument in good faith. I don't care for it. You aren't even quoting my argument here.
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Jul 21, 2014 22:57
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Juanito posted:This abrasive attitude from merk is his scum game, btw. Where is the abrasiveness? Where is the outrage? All I did was find and vote a scum player. You seem to want to paint words with as much negative connotation as possible over a pretty simple case to try to discredit it rather than look at what actually happened. This guy is clearly scum play, folks. I don't know how else to convey it.
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Confirm. Just caught up. I'm torn, because this behavior from CPig feels really scummy, but giving a Scum vig powers seems incredibly unbalanced. I have to assume he's town, just because the alternative is terrifying. The Juanito/merk slapfight isn't looking good for either side, but I'm kind of used to this behavior from merk. Sitting on my vote for now.
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Ah, what the hell, it's day 1, and whether I'm used to it or not, Merk does really seem to be trying too hard. ##vote merk
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Although I disagree that I'm trying beyond even the slightest bit, why is "trying too hard" scummy?
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